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Velr
Switzerland10812 Posts
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don_kyuhote
3006 Posts
On May 07 2019 18:26 Acrofales wrote: One thing my wife and I haven't agreed on yet: did Tony snap Gamora? Or is she alive again now and with the Guardians? She wasn't anywhere in the final scenes with Thor, and Starlord looked longingly at her photo. So my wife thinks when Tony snapped all of Thanos's out-of-time gang away, that included Gamora. I think she's still around. Didn't Star Lord touch Gamora's face and have this "awww I missed you so much..." moment and she kicked him in the nuts since this Gamora doesn't know Star Lord? Was that before or after that snap? EDIT: oh it was before the snap. | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18133 Posts
On May 07 2019 21:32 don_kyuhote wrote: Didn't Star Lord touch Gamora's face and have this "awww I missed you so much..." moment and she kicked him in the nuts since this Gamora doesn't know Star Lord? Was that before or after that snap? That was before. | ||
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don_kyuhote
3006 Posts
But who knows? During that short moment when he had all the stones, maybe he could have sensed that Gamora was on his side with Soul stone or Mind stone or something. | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada17049 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + now that this era of the MCU is completed who will Disney make the face of the new MCU? Robert Downey Jr. is done. Who replaces him as the next face of the new MCU? | ||
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Sbrubbles
Brazil5776 Posts
On May 07 2019 23:18 JimmyJRaynor wrote: This doesn't directly spoil anything, but it hints at stuff that might prejudice one's viewing of Endgame. + Show Spoiler + now that this era of the MCU is completed who will Disney make the face of the new MCU? Robert Downey Jr. is done. Who replaces him as the next face of the new MCU? + Show Spoiler + That's an interesting question. I would guess Tom Holland as Spider Man, as a universally liked character with lots of personality, plus he's got the first movie post-Endgame and had a strong relationship with Iron Man. There's a good chance Disney pushes Brie Larson, and a small chance they push Chadwick Boseman, but I'm not sure if their characters are up to it. Another (slightly different) question is who's going to be the most important character in-universe post-Endgame, especially in organizing the Avengers, now that Iron Man and Thor are out and Captain America will still take at least one movie to "prove himself" as the de facto Cap. Black Panther and Captain Marvel are the obvious choices (I would go for Black Panther and leave Captain Marvel for space adventure things). | ||
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ZerOCoolSC2
9007 Posts
On May 07 2019 23:18 JimmyJRaynor wrote: This doesn't directly spoil anything, but it hints at stuff that might prejudice one's viewing of Endgame. + Show Spoiler + now that this era of the MCU is completed who will Disney make the face of the new MCU? Robert Downey Jr. is done. Who replaces him as the next face of the new MCU? + Show Spoiler + Spiderman, captain mahvel, black panther | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18133 Posts
On May 07 2019 23:18 JimmyJRaynor wrote: This doesn't directly spoil anything, but it hints at stuff that might prejudice one's viewing of Endgame. + Show Spoiler + now that this era of the MCU is completed who will Disney make the face of the new MCU? Robert Downey Jr. is done. Who replaces him as the next face of the new MCU? Judging by the spiderman trailer, they're setting Spidey up to take a big role. Although lets face it, Spidey is small fries in comparison to superpowers like Captain Marvel, Scarlet Witch or Dr. Strange. Captain Marvel and Dr. Strange both have a sequel movie in phase 4, so we'll see how they plan to continue, and Black Panther has the charisma to be the "face" of the new avengers. At a meta level, clearly the plan is to diversify, with the TV tie-ins being a far more important part. Big ticket actors like Tom Hiddleston playing the same role on TV as in cinema is a pretty big move. So far only Agent Coulson has had any real role of consequence in both the TV and movie versions of MCU, and in the movies he was only really Nick Fury's sidekick in Avengers 1. If they make the tie-ins more mixed, we could also see Quake and Daredevil appear in the next iteration of the Avengers. That'd be pretty cool. | ||
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Salteador Neo
Andorra5591 Posts
On May 07 2019 23:44 Sbrubbles wrote: + Show Spoiler + That's an interesting question. I would guess Tom Holland as Spider Man, as a universally liked character with lots of personality, plus he's got the first movie post-Endgame and had a strong relationship with Iron Man. There's a good chance Disney pushes Brie Larson, and a small chance they push Chadwick Boseman, but I'm not sure if their characters are up to it. Another (slightly different) question is who's going to be the most important character in-universe post-Endgame, especially in organizing the Avengers, now that Iron Man and Thor are out and Captain America will still take at least one movie to "prove himself" as the de facto Cap. Black Panther and Captain Marvel are the obvious choices (I would go for Black Panther and leave Captain Marvel for space adventure things). + Show Spoiler + For the first question it has to be Spiderman imo, nobody else comes even close. For the second, I agree Black Panther is a solid choice as he has the experience from ruling a small country. On a related note, I would think Dr Strange will be important for actually helping fix the screwed up world they live in now and generally giving advice to other avengers. Maybe War Machine can be the public relations guy to fix their relationship with the US government. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On May 07 2019 23:58 Acrofales wrote: Judging by the spiderman trailer, they're setting Spidey up to take a big role. Although lets face it, Spidey is small fries in comparison to superpowers like Captain Marvel, Scarlet Witch or Dr. Strange. Captain Marvel and Dr. Strange both have a sequel movie in phase 4, so we'll see how they plan to continue, and Black Panther has the charisma to be the "face" of the new avengers. At a meta level, clearly the plan is to diversify, with the TV tie-ins being a far more important part. Big ticket actors like Tom Hiddleston playing the same role on TV as in cinema is a pretty big move. So far only Agent Coulson has had any real role of consequence in both the TV and movie versions of MCU, and in the movies he was only really Nick Fury's sidekick in Avengers 1. If they make the tie-ins more mixed, we could also see Quake and Daredevil appear in the next iteration of the Avengers. That'd be pretty cool. The new Spider-man trailer shows a lot of promise. A smaller story, more personal story that has stakes, but isn’t the literal end of the world. I hope they keep doing these smaller stories, even with the big characters like Strange and Captain Marvel. There is a very good plotline in Captain Marvel about her helping out refugees on a poisoned planet that could be fleshed out. And the solutions to that story don’t involve violence(though the end does involve violence, mostly because someone tries to prevent the solution from happening). And that Spider-man movie hinted at a multi-verse(though Mysterio is liar, that is like his entire thing), so we could be living the dream of live action Mile Morales and Nick Cage as a Spider-man Noir. Though the raw power of Zendaya does mean that we will never get the Peter Parker dates Kitty Pride and fights crime with her story line. That was a very good run. Maybe Mary Jane could get an Teen-sized Iron-man suit, because one does not waste Zendaya as a simple love interest. | ||
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karazax
United States3737 Posts
Fantasic Four and X-men both seem like locks to integrate in going forward though after the current Fox X-men series concludes this summer. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
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Excludos
Norway8204 Posts
On May 08 2019 01:53 karazax wrote: The problem with Spiderman being the face of the Marvel universe is that the deal with Sony supposedly ends with this movie. Disney and Sony could extend the deal, but Sony may have other plans as the current deal precludes Spiderman from appearing in other Sony movies like Venom and the upcoming Morbius. Fantasic Four and X-men both seem like locks to integrate in going forward though after the current Fox X-men series concludes this summer. He's slated to play in at least 3 more movies, so it would greatly surprise me if they didn't manage to work something out | ||
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don_kyuhote
3006 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11113/111132661/6567767-iron_man_vs_thanos_fight_scene_hd_iron_man_suit_up_in_iw.gif) | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
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Silvanel
Poland4733 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + 1.Absolute lack of surprise. Infinity War had nice surprise at the end, in this movie everything was expected and obvious since it even started. 2.Captain Marvel as Deus ex Machina solution (those are always bad) 3.The underdog lost. Because lets face it. Thanos was not only outnumbered (henchmens do not count) but also faced with multiple foes with superior abilities - flying, laser shooting, indestructible armour. Its like bunch of humans poking a dog with electric sticks, disgusting. 4.If a movie tries to be serious it shouldnt be stupid, sttupid and sad does not go along very well. 5.The one thing they got right is that time travel does not make sense and is never done right in movies or books. But thats a reason to not touch it at all!!! And they make it a major plot device. For me it is 6/10 at best. Coming from general fantasy-science fiction enthusiast not comic/movie fan. | ||
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Excludos
Norway8204 Posts
On May 10 2019 15:33 Silvanel wrote: I watched it yesterday and i didnt like it. Mediocre movie at best. Few points on my side (spoilers inside): + Show Spoiler + 1.Absolute lack of surprise. Infinity War had nice surprise at the end, in this movie everything was expected and obvious since it even started. 2.Captain Marvel as Deus ex Machina solution (those are always bad) 3.The underdog lost. Because lets face it. Thanos was not only outnumbered (henchmens do not count) but also faced with multiple foes with superior abilities - flying, laser shooting, indestructible armour. Its like bunch of humans poking a dog with electric sticks, disgusting. 4.If a movie tries to be serious it shouldnt be stupid, sttupid and sad does not go along very well. 5.The one thing they got right is that time travel does not make sense and is never done right in movies or books. But thats a reason to not touch it at all!!! And they make it a major plot device. For me it is 6/10 at best. Coming from general fantasy-science fiction enthusiast not comic/movie fan. On nr 4: Wat? Futurama, Final Space, a lot of MCU movies, most of Pixar films ever made, and probably a lot of other things I've forgotten, are all "stupid" but sad as fuck at times. The most effective combo in the world for making me cry is interchanging comedy + seriousness. Films can be more than one emotion you know (Unlike DC currently where everything is always dark and serious, and you just get bored instead). edit: I forgot Rick and Morty. That's the pinnacle of stupidity, and they still manage to pull on the sad emotion string once in a while. | ||
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Silvanel
Poland4733 Posts
Thor was leaving his mother and when i realised Thanos wont take anyone with him. He should at least take a cap, he had him on the ropes. That would be a great scene (they could leave shield as a whole and Sam could take it up over caps dead body, that would be much better IMO | ||
Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
So, yeah remember Thanos is the strongest fighting the MCU and was only ever beaten because he basically beat himself mentally after a huge rejection of love xD | ||
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Arceus
Vietnam8333 Posts
On May 11 2019 00:37 Pandemona wrote: One thing i would mention, Thanos is the strongest being in the Marvel universe to note, he is the strongest being that is without the gauntlet. So that is why it needed everyone, but in the comic book lore that still wasn't enough, the only reason they were able to win is because of Adam Warlock and Nebula. Thanos after he kills everyone basically, shifts into an Astral Being in which he drops the gauntlet, whilst in Astral form, Adam Warlock shows up and basically talks Thanos into understanding why he fucked up after Thanos was screwed by the mistress of death (he only did all of this to try and get her love, which she rejected once he did it). Nebula picks up the gauntlet and undoes the snap after again being convinced by Adam Warlock to do this with some use of the Soul Gem that Adam possesses, from there he is told to relinquish the Gauntlet by the Astral council and Thanos just goes on living his life as a farmer, which is what in fairness the movie alluded to here with Nebula "knowing where he is". So, yeah remember Thanos is the strongest fighting the MCU and was only ever beaten because he basically beat himself mentally after a huge rejection of love xD Didn't read the comics but this is what I would love to happen. Something similar to the king in Chimera Ant arc in HxH but + Show Spoiler + - Thanos simply fist-fights everyone and tries to win the easy way with the gloves - Stupid grand battle. Useless henchmen/flying monsters against superpowers & super weapons. Of course nobody dies against those cannon fodders - Captain Marvel is ridiculously OP and could just wipe the battlefield in mere seconds and/or solve lots of stuff easily. - Predictable plot, unnecessarily long + Really like how it starts with Thanos being a villager and talking philosophy but yeah... + Dudeism is strong with Thor 6/10 Shazam is actually more enjoyable for me in term of superheroes flicks. | ||
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