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On April 28 2019 01:39 InFiNitY[pG] wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2019 23:09 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:I saw it on Thursday after work. Copped 3D because I was in a rush to get the pre-order tickets when they released. Didn't ruin the film, but I'll have to see it in IMAX to get a better feeling. All in all, it hit every emotional string and I found myself surprised how much I was invested in these films. A lot of the moments were just perfectly portrayed. My biggest issue with the movie was the + Show Spoiler +non-need of Capt Marvel. She just delayed Thanos by like 2-3 seconds. Captain America wielding the hammer was amazing but the lightning was kinda forced. And where the hell did he put it after he time traveled back? Sam becoming Black Capt is amazing (he becomes CA in the comics, as does Bucky but I guess they didn't want him to take over). + Show Spoiler +Oddly enough I found your issue to be one of the movie's strong suits. People were expecting the introduction Cpt Marvel to be a cop out as to how to save the world. Instead, she barely made any difference within the movie. What I didn't like was that they had no introductory scene for when she met the other avengers. She was just "there" all of the sudden. I am sure I saw a scene about the avengers checking out Fury's signal in one of the post credit scenes or a trailer, so the producers probably just cut that part?
Unrelated question: How did the Avengers know that the time stone would be in New York at that time, when it was five years before Dr. Strange even acquired it?
+ Show Spoiler +They knew where Strange lived and they went to that location. He wasn't SS at the time, but it would still be in that location or somewhere nearby.
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On April 27 2019 23:09 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:I saw it on Thursday after work. Copped 3D because I was in a rush to get the pre-order tickets when they released. Didn't ruin the film, but I'll have to see it in IMAX to get a better feeling. All in all, it hit every emotional string and I found myself surprised how much I was invested in these films. A lot of the moments were just perfectly portrayed. My biggest issue with the movie was the + Show Spoiler +non-need of Capt Marvel. She just delayed Thanos by like 2-3 seconds. Captain America wielding the hammer was amazing but the lightning was kinda forced. And where the hell did he put it after he time traveled back? Sam becoming Black Capt is amazing (he becomes CA in the comics, as does Bucky but I guess they didn't want him to take over).
Regarding Cap's last scene:
+ Show Spoiler +I think it's already established by the previous time travel plotlines that they can make multiple jumps to any place as well as time. I'm guessing when Cap jumped to Asgard to return/inject the infinity stone back into Natalie Portman, he just left the hammer wherever there. Thor didn't wield the hammer until a bit later when the dark elves attacked.
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On April 27 2019 23:09 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:I saw it on Thursday after work. Copped 3D because I was in a rush to get the pre-order tickets when they released. Didn't ruin the film, but I'll have to see it in IMAX to get a better feeling. All in all, it hit every emotional string and I found myself surprised how much I was invested in these films. A lot of the moments were just perfectly portrayed. My biggest issue with the movie was the + Show Spoiler +non-need of Capt Marvel. She just delayed Thanos by like 2-3 seconds. Captain America wielding the hammer was amazing but the lightning was kinda forced. And where the hell did he put it after he time traveled back? Sam becoming Black Capt is amazing (he becomes CA in the comics, as does Bucky but I guess they didn't want him to take over).
+ Show Spoiler +The hammer was one of the things that he put back in time. Its nominally suppose to be there for the frigga death scene and is delayed I guess because of this.
The problem with captian marvel is that she falls into the superman problem. If she does too much or is treated as "just another member of the team" she invalidates the need for anyone else. If she doesn't do anything at all its as if they didn't need her at all. I thought she had a good usage in the film destroying Thaos's flagship while having her shot at thanos as well.
I think Black cap works well as well. Bucky can be the white wolf for black panther while being flexed as an asset for black cap when he does something to get him out of America. Bucky has a good redemption arc in him and JEsus the black cap black panther movie just writes gold itself.
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On April 28 2019 01:52 Sermokala wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2019 23:09 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:I saw it on Thursday after work. Copped 3D because I was in a rush to get the pre-order tickets when they released. Didn't ruin the film, but I'll have to see it in IMAX to get a better feeling. All in all, it hit every emotional string and I found myself surprised how much I was invested in these films. A lot of the moments were just perfectly portrayed. My biggest issue with the movie was the + Show Spoiler +non-need of Capt Marvel. She just delayed Thanos by like 2-3 seconds. Captain America wielding the hammer was amazing but the lightning was kinda forced. And where the hell did he put it after he time traveled back? Sam becoming Black Capt is amazing (he becomes CA in the comics, as does Bucky but I guess they didn't want him to take over). + Show Spoiler +The hammer was one of the things that he put back in time. Its nominally suppose to be there for the frigga death scene and is delayed I guess because of this.
The problem with captian marvel is that she falls into the superman problem. If she does too much or is treated as "just another member of the team" she invalidates the need for anyone else. If she doesn't do anything at all its as if they didn't need her at all. I thought she had a good usage in the film destroying Thaos's flagship while having her shot at thanos as well.
I think Black cap works well as well. Bucky can be the white wolf for black panther while being flexed as an asset for black cap when he does something to get him out of America. Bucky has a good redemption arc in him and JEsus the black cap black panther movie just writes gold itself.
+ Show Spoiler +Agreed on the last part. They are going to milk that BP + BC angle to death. But I'm all about it haha. If they don't give BC his own movie, then a series with BP and Shuri is more than welcome on their new streaming service.
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On April 28 2019 01:46 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2019 01:39 InFiNitY[pG] wrote:On April 27 2019 23:09 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:I saw it on Thursday after work. Copped 3D because I was in a rush to get the pre-order tickets when they released. Didn't ruin the film, but I'll have to see it in IMAX to get a better feeling. All in all, it hit every emotional string and I found myself surprised how much I was invested in these films. A lot of the moments were just perfectly portrayed. My biggest issue with the movie was the + Show Spoiler +non-need of Capt Marvel. She just delayed Thanos by like 2-3 seconds. Captain America wielding the hammer was amazing but the lightning was kinda forced. And where the hell did he put it after he time traveled back? Sam becoming Black Capt is amazing (he becomes CA in the comics, as does Bucky but I guess they didn't want him to take over). + Show Spoiler +Oddly enough I found your issue to be one of the movie's strong suits. People were expecting the introduction Cpt Marvel to be a cop out as to how to save the world. Instead, she barely made any difference within the movie. What I didn't like was that they had no introductory scene for when she met the other avengers. She was just "there" all of the sudden. I am sure I saw a scene about the avengers checking out Fury's signal in one of the post credit scenes or a trailer, so the producers probably just cut that part?
Unrelated question: How did the Avengers know that the time stone would be in New York at that time, when it was five years before Dr. Strange even acquired it?
+ Show Spoiler +They knew where Strange lived and they went to that location. He wasn't SS at the time, but it would still be in that location or somewhere nearby.
+ Show Spoiler +That is not an explanation at all. Black Widow (I think) said "if we hit the right time, three of the stones will be in New York". However, it was FIVE YEARS before Steven Strange became Dr. Strange. Knowing that he would own the stone in New York five years from now gave them no knowledge whatsoever where the stone would be at that time. By that reasoning, the stone could be literally anywhere in the universe.
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On April 28 2019 03:09 InFiNitY[pG] wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2019 01:46 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:On April 28 2019 01:39 InFiNitY[pG] wrote:On April 27 2019 23:09 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:I saw it on Thursday after work. Copped 3D because I was in a rush to get the pre-order tickets when they released. Didn't ruin the film, but I'll have to see it in IMAX to get a better feeling. All in all, it hit every emotional string and I found myself surprised how much I was invested in these films. A lot of the moments were just perfectly portrayed. My biggest issue with the movie was the + Show Spoiler +non-need of Capt Marvel. She just delayed Thanos by like 2-3 seconds. Captain America wielding the hammer was amazing but the lightning was kinda forced. And where the hell did he put it after he time traveled back? Sam becoming Black Capt is amazing (he becomes CA in the comics, as does Bucky but I guess they didn't want him to take over). + Show Spoiler +Oddly enough I found your issue to be one of the movie's strong suits. People were expecting the introduction Cpt Marvel to be a cop out as to how to save the world. Instead, she barely made any difference within the movie. What I didn't like was that they had no introductory scene for when she met the other avengers. She was just "there" all of the sudden. I am sure I saw a scene about the avengers checking out Fury's signal in one of the post credit scenes or a trailer, so the producers probably just cut that part?
Unrelated question: How did the Avengers know that the time stone would be in New York at that time, when it was five years before Dr. Strange even acquired it?
+ Show Spoiler +They knew where Strange lived and they went to that location. He wasn't SS at the time, but it would still be in that location or somewhere nearby. + Show Spoiler +That is not an explanation at all. Black Widow (I think) said "if we hit the right time, three of the stones will be in New York". However, it was FIVE YEARS before Steven Strange became Dr. Strange. Knowing that he would own the stone in New York five years from now gave them no knowledge whatsoever where the stone would be at that time. By that reasoning, the stone could be literally anywhere in the universe.
+ Show Spoiler +But that place where Banner fell has been there for a long ass time and he was sent there because he knew exactly where it was. That's why it was him and not someone else. They knew about all of the events, so tracing things back would have been easy for them to do. And technically, he was Dr. Strange, just not Sorcerer Supreme Dr. Strange. And when the Chitari attacked, the Ancient One was defending the city as well, that's why she was there on the rooftop. She had to be there to protect the city from an off-world invasion.
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Two more questions if anyone has an idea:
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1) How is Sam going to become the captain,since, he is an ordinary human and the shield cannot do a lot for him? I mean he cannot survive/block for example a tank shot with it. I would understand if Bucky took over, since, he might not be as strong as the captain, but still way more durable than a regular human
2) How were some ordinary people like Clint able to hold infinity stones, without getting torn by them. I think even the captain held one too and do you remember what happened to the red skull when he put one in his hand without protection? or what happened to the galaxy guardians when they tried that shit before
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And my opinion regarding the Thor Hammer:
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There was no need for the hammer to be returned or put back. Whatever happened with the hammer in the past and the previous movies already happened, only the stones break the timelines and create parallel universes and need to be put back, everything else, people, items its already in the current timeline past, going back in the past is actually something that happens in the future Hulk explained it. So getting back, stealing the hammer and using it to fight Thanos does not impact the fact that Hella broke it in the past and etc. The way it was explained they can even go back and bring a younger version of Ironman and revive him, however, they implied for consequences of time travel and that such actions are not recommended
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Possible answers to your questions.
+ Show Spoiler +1) I think it was more of a symbolic gesture? Like "You're the captain now" and not a literal "You will throw this shield around now" type of thing. Could still be useful of course since it is almost indestuctrible and absorbs vibrations and what not but I don't think it will be his main gimmick from now on.
2) I think The Glove tony made offered some kind of protection? It only started affecting the hulk when he actually put it on for real on his hand, Clint and Spider-man etc. were just carrying it around but not actually putting it on their hand. Flimsy, but I think that is what they were going for.
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On April 28 2019 03:29 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2019 03:09 InFiNitY[pG] wrote:On April 28 2019 01:46 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:On April 28 2019 01:39 InFiNitY[pG] wrote:On April 27 2019 23:09 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:I saw it on Thursday after work. Copped 3D because I was in a rush to get the pre-order tickets when they released. Didn't ruin the film, but I'll have to see it in IMAX to get a better feeling. All in all, it hit every emotional string and I found myself surprised how much I was invested in these films. A lot of the moments were just perfectly portrayed. My biggest issue with the movie was the + Show Spoiler +non-need of Capt Marvel. She just delayed Thanos by like 2-3 seconds. Captain America wielding the hammer was amazing but the lightning was kinda forced. And where the hell did he put it after he time traveled back? Sam becoming Black Capt is amazing (he becomes CA in the comics, as does Bucky but I guess they didn't want him to take over). + Show Spoiler +Oddly enough I found your issue to be one of the movie's strong suits. People were expecting the introduction Cpt Marvel to be a cop out as to how to save the world. Instead, she barely made any difference within the movie. What I didn't like was that they had no introductory scene for when she met the other avengers. She was just "there" all of the sudden. I am sure I saw a scene about the avengers checking out Fury's signal in one of the post credit scenes or a trailer, so the producers probably just cut that part?
Unrelated question: How did the Avengers know that the time stone would be in New York at that time, when it was five years before Dr. Strange even acquired it?
+ Show Spoiler +They knew where Strange lived and they went to that location. He wasn't SS at the time, but it would still be in that location or somewhere nearby. + Show Spoiler +That is not an explanation at all. Black Widow (I think) said "if we hit the right time, three of the stones will be in New York". However, it was FIVE YEARS before Steven Strange became Dr. Strange. Knowing that he would own the stone in New York five years from now gave them no knowledge whatsoever where the stone would be at that time. By that reasoning, the stone could be literally anywhere in the universe. + Show Spoiler +But that place where Banner fell has been there for a long ass time and he was sent there because he knew exactly where it was. That's why it was him and not someone else. They knew about all of the events, so tracing things back would have been easy for them to do. And technically, he was Dr. Strange, just not Sorcerer Supreme Dr. Strange. And when the Chitari attacked, the Ancient One was defending the city as well, that's why she was there on the rooftop. She had to be there to protect the city from an off-world invasion.
+ Show Spoiler + I'm sorry but I don't think you understand at all... All of what you are saying is true, but NOTHING you said explains why the TIME STONE should be there at that time OR why the avenergs should know about it being there
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On April 28 2019 04:08 M2 wrote:Two more questions if anyone has an idea: + Show Spoiler +
1) How is Sam going to become the captain,since, he is an ordinary human and the shield cannot do a lot for him? I mean he cannot survive/block for example a tank shot with it. I would understand if Bucky took over, since, he might not be as strong as the captain, but still way more durable than a regular human
2) How were some ordinary people like Clint able to hold infinity stones, without getting torn by them. I think even the captain held one too and do you remember what happened to the red skull when he put one in his hand without protection? or what happened to the galaxy guardians when they tried that shit before
+ Show Spoiler +I was under the impression that only the Power stone did that, because it gave the user power mere mortals can't handle. Tho I don't remember CA enough to remember what happened to the Red Skull or why. I also have zero idea how he ended up as the guardian/guide of the Soul stone
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On April 28 2019 04:45 InFiNitY[pG] wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2019 03:29 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:On April 28 2019 03:09 InFiNitY[pG] wrote:On April 28 2019 01:46 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:On April 28 2019 01:39 InFiNitY[pG] wrote:On April 27 2019 23:09 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:I saw it on Thursday after work. Copped 3D because I was in a rush to get the pre-order tickets when they released. Didn't ruin the film, but I'll have to see it in IMAX to get a better feeling. All in all, it hit every emotional string and I found myself surprised how much I was invested in these films. A lot of the moments were just perfectly portrayed. My biggest issue with the movie was the + Show Spoiler +non-need of Capt Marvel. She just delayed Thanos by like 2-3 seconds. Captain America wielding the hammer was amazing but the lightning was kinda forced. And where the hell did he put it after he time traveled back? Sam becoming Black Capt is amazing (he becomes CA in the comics, as does Bucky but I guess they didn't want him to take over). + Show Spoiler +Oddly enough I found your issue to be one of the movie's strong suits. People were expecting the introduction Cpt Marvel to be a cop out as to how to save the world. Instead, she barely made any difference within the movie. What I didn't like was that they had no introductory scene for when she met the other avengers. She was just "there" all of the sudden. I am sure I saw a scene about the avengers checking out Fury's signal in one of the post credit scenes or a trailer, so the producers probably just cut that part?
Unrelated question: How did the Avengers know that the time stone would be in New York at that time, when it was five years before Dr. Strange even acquired it?
+ Show Spoiler +They knew where Strange lived and they went to that location. He wasn't SS at the time, but it would still be in that location or somewhere nearby. + Show Spoiler +That is not an explanation at all. Black Widow (I think) said "if we hit the right time, three of the stones will be in New York". However, it was FIVE YEARS before Steven Strange became Dr. Strange. Knowing that he would own the stone in New York five years from now gave them no knowledge whatsoever where the stone would be at that time. By that reasoning, the stone could be literally anywhere in the universe. + Show Spoiler +But that place where Banner fell has been there for a long ass time and he was sent there because he knew exactly where it was. That's why it was him and not someone else. They knew about all of the events, so tracing things back would have been easy for them to do. And technically, he was Dr. Strange, just not Sorcerer Supreme Dr. Strange. And when the Chitari attacked, the Ancient One was defending the city as well, that's why she was there on the rooftop. She had to be there to protect the city from an off-world invasion. + Show Spoiler + I'm sorry but I don't think you understand at all... All of what you are saying is true, but NOTHING you said explains why the TIME STONE should be there at that time OR why the avengers should know about it being there
+ Show Spoiler +They didn't know that Dr strange wouldn't be there with the time stone. They only met a short time ago when banner fell into the place in new york. They assumed he would be there with the stone and they had no other clue about where/when the stone would be.
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On April 28 2019 04:08 M2 wrote:Two more questions if anyone has an idea: + Show Spoiler +
1) How is Sam going to become the captain,since, he is an ordinary human and the shield cannot do a lot for him? I mean he cannot survive/block for example a tank shot with it. I would understand if Bucky took over, since, he might not be as strong as the captain, but still way more durable than a regular human
2) How were some ordinary people like Clint able to hold infinity stones, without getting torn by them. I think even the captain held one too and do you remember what happened to the red skull when he put one in his hand without protection? or what happened to the galaxy guardians when they tried that shit before
+ Show Spoiler +the stones only lent their power to the person with the stones when they wore the gauntlet with the stones. thats why we got an activation scene every time someone put it on / when thanos added a new one in infinity war.
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On April 28 2019 04:08 M2 wrote:Two more questions if anyone has an idea: + Show Spoiler +
1) How is Sam going to become the captain,since, he is an ordinary human and the shield cannot do a lot for him? I mean he cannot survive/block for example a tank shot with it. I would understand if Bucky took over, since, he might not be as strong as the captain, but still way more durable than a regular human
2) How were some ordinary people like Clint able to hold infinity stones, without getting torn by them. I think even the captain held one too and do you remember what happened to the red skull when he put one in his hand without protection? or what happened to the galaxy guardians when they tried that shit before
+ Show Spoiler +Sam can possibly get Professor Hulk to synthesize the soldier serum and he can become hulk. Or he can get a custom suit from Wakanda and that will help him. The Shield is just that, a shield.
Only when you try to use the power, does the stones activate. If you're just holding it, it doesn't do anything. The GoG used the Power Stone to defeat Ronin. Also, I think the Russo Bros retconned that part.
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On April 28 2019 04:45 InFiNitY[pG] wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2019 03:29 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:On April 28 2019 03:09 InFiNitY[pG] wrote:On April 28 2019 01:46 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:On April 28 2019 01:39 InFiNitY[pG] wrote:On April 27 2019 23:09 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:I saw it on Thursday after work. Copped 3D because I was in a rush to get the pre-order tickets when they released. Didn't ruin the film, but I'll have to see it in IMAX to get a better feeling. All in all, it hit every emotional string and I found myself surprised how much I was invested in these films. A lot of the moments were just perfectly portrayed. My biggest issue with the movie was the + Show Spoiler +non-need of Capt Marvel. She just delayed Thanos by like 2-3 seconds. Captain America wielding the hammer was amazing but the lightning was kinda forced. And where the hell did he put it after he time traveled back? Sam becoming Black Capt is amazing (he becomes CA in the comics, as does Bucky but I guess they didn't want him to take over). + Show Spoiler +Oddly enough I found your issue to be one of the movie's strong suits. People were expecting the introduction Cpt Marvel to be a cop out as to how to save the world. Instead, she barely made any difference within the movie. What I didn't like was that they had no introductory scene for when she met the other avengers. She was just "there" all of the sudden. I am sure I saw a scene about the avengers checking out Fury's signal in one of the post credit scenes or a trailer, so the producers probably just cut that part?
Unrelated question: How did the Avengers know that the time stone would be in New York at that time, when it was five years before Dr. Strange even acquired it?
+ Show Spoiler +They knew where Strange lived and they went to that location. He wasn't SS at the time, but it would still be in that location or somewhere nearby. + Show Spoiler +That is not an explanation at all. Black Widow (I think) said "if we hit the right time, three of the stones will be in New York". However, it was FIVE YEARS before Steven Strange became Dr. Strange. Knowing that he would own the stone in New York five years from now gave them no knowledge whatsoever where the stone would be at that time. By that reasoning, the stone could be literally anywhere in the universe. + Show Spoiler +But that place where Banner fell has been there for a long ass time and he was sent there because he knew exactly where it was. That's why it was him and not someone else. They knew about all of the events, so tracing things back would have been easy for them to do. And technically, he was Dr. Strange, just not Sorcerer Supreme Dr. Strange. And when the Chitari attacked, the Ancient One was defending the city as well, that's why she was there on the rooftop. She had to be there to protect the city from an off-world invasion. + Show Spoiler + I'm sorry but I don't think you understand at all... All of what you are saying is true, but NOTHING you said explains why the TIME STONE should be there at that time OR why the avenergs should know about it being there
I gave you the best explanation I could. You'll have to ask the writers why they did that.
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On April 28 2019 05:26 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2019 04:45 InFiNitY[pG] wrote:On April 28 2019 03:29 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:On April 28 2019 03:09 InFiNitY[pG] wrote:On April 28 2019 01:46 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:On April 28 2019 01:39 InFiNitY[pG] wrote:On April 27 2019 23:09 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:I saw it on Thursday after work. Copped 3D because I was in a rush to get the pre-order tickets when they released. Didn't ruin the film, but I'll have to see it in IMAX to get a better feeling. All in all, it hit every emotional string and I found myself surprised how much I was invested in these films. A lot of the moments were just perfectly portrayed. My biggest issue with the movie was the + Show Spoiler +non-need of Capt Marvel. She just delayed Thanos by like 2-3 seconds. Captain America wielding the hammer was amazing but the lightning was kinda forced. And where the hell did he put it after he time traveled back? Sam becoming Black Capt is amazing (he becomes CA in the comics, as does Bucky but I guess they didn't want him to take over). + Show Spoiler +Oddly enough I found your issue to be one of the movie's strong suits. People were expecting the introduction Cpt Marvel to be a cop out as to how to save the world. Instead, she barely made any difference within the movie. What I didn't like was that they had no introductory scene for when she met the other avengers. She was just "there" all of the sudden. I am sure I saw a scene about the avengers checking out Fury's signal in one of the post credit scenes or a trailer, so the producers probably just cut that part?
Unrelated question: How did the Avengers know that the time stone would be in New York at that time, when it was five years before Dr. Strange even acquired it?
+ Show Spoiler +They knew where Strange lived and they went to that location. He wasn't SS at the time, but it would still be in that location or somewhere nearby. + Show Spoiler +That is not an explanation at all. Black Widow (I think) said "if we hit the right time, three of the stones will be in New York". However, it was FIVE YEARS before Steven Strange became Dr. Strange. Knowing that he would own the stone in New York five years from now gave them no knowledge whatsoever where the stone would be at that time. By that reasoning, the stone could be literally anywhere in the universe. + Show Spoiler +But that place where Banner fell has been there for a long ass time and he was sent there because he knew exactly where it was. That's why it was him and not someone else. They knew about all of the events, so tracing things back would have been easy for them to do. And technically, he was Dr. Strange, just not Sorcerer Supreme Dr. Strange. And when the Chitari attacked, the Ancient One was defending the city as well, that's why she was there on the rooftop. She had to be there to protect the city from an off-world invasion. + Show Spoiler + I'm sorry but I don't think you understand at all... All of what you are saying is true, but NOTHING you said explains why the TIME STONE should be there at that time OR why the avenergs should know about it being there I gave you the best explanation I could. You'll have to ask the writers why they did that.
Well you should have said beforehand that you were guessing instead of knowing. I just think it's weird that the avengers would carry out such an important plan based on a whim or an assumption. Normally the marvel writers are very aware of that sort of thing. They don't leave many unexplained plot holes.
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On April 28 2019 04:53 Sermokala wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2019 04:45 InFiNitY[pG] wrote:On April 28 2019 03:29 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:On April 28 2019 03:09 InFiNitY[pG] wrote:On April 28 2019 01:46 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:On April 28 2019 01:39 InFiNitY[pG] wrote:On April 27 2019 23:09 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:I saw it on Thursday after work. Copped 3D because I was in a rush to get the pre-order tickets when they released. Didn't ruin the film, but I'll have to see it in IMAX to get a better feeling. All in all, it hit every emotional string and I found myself surprised how much I was invested in these films. A lot of the moments were just perfectly portrayed. My biggest issue with the movie was the + Show Spoiler +non-need of Capt Marvel. She just delayed Thanos by like 2-3 seconds. Captain America wielding the hammer was amazing but the lightning was kinda forced. And where the hell did he put it after he time traveled back? Sam becoming Black Capt is amazing (he becomes CA in the comics, as does Bucky but I guess they didn't want him to take over). + Show Spoiler +Oddly enough I found your issue to be one of the movie's strong suits. People were expecting the introduction Cpt Marvel to be a cop out as to how to save the world. Instead, she barely made any difference within the movie. What I didn't like was that they had no introductory scene for when she met the other avengers. She was just "there" all of the sudden. I am sure I saw a scene about the avengers checking out Fury's signal in one of the post credit scenes or a trailer, so the producers probably just cut that part?
Unrelated question: How did the Avengers know that the time stone would be in New York at that time, when it was five years before Dr. Strange even acquired it?
+ Show Spoiler +They knew where Strange lived and they went to that location. He wasn't SS at the time, but it would still be in that location or somewhere nearby. + Show Spoiler +That is not an explanation at all. Black Widow (I think) said "if we hit the right time, three of the stones will be in New York". However, it was FIVE YEARS before Steven Strange became Dr. Strange. Knowing that he would own the stone in New York five years from now gave them no knowledge whatsoever where the stone would be at that time. By that reasoning, the stone could be literally anywhere in the universe. + Show Spoiler +But that place where Banner fell has been there for a long ass time and he was sent there because he knew exactly where it was. That's why it was him and not someone else. They knew about all of the events, so tracing things back would have been easy for them to do. And technically, he was Dr. Strange, just not Sorcerer Supreme Dr. Strange. And when the Chitari attacked, the Ancient One was defending the city as well, that's why she was there on the rooftop. She had to be there to protect the city from an off-world invasion. + Show Spoiler + I'm sorry but I don't think you understand at all... All of what you are saying is true, but NOTHING you said explains why the TIME STONE should be there at that time OR why the avengers should know about it being there + Show Spoiler +They didn't know that Dr strange wouldn't be there with the time stone. They only met a short time ago when banner fell into the place in new york. They assumed he would be there with the stone and they had no other clue about where/when the stone would be.
+ Show Spoiler + They thought they had only ONE shot to get all stones at once and it was specifically said that THREE stones would be in New York at that time. So somehow they knew (thought they knew) about the time stone being there.
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On April 28 2019 05:35 InFiNitY[pG] wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2019 05:26 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:On April 28 2019 04:45 InFiNitY[pG] wrote:On April 28 2019 03:29 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:On April 28 2019 03:09 InFiNitY[pG] wrote:On April 28 2019 01:46 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:On April 28 2019 01:39 InFiNitY[pG] wrote:On April 27 2019 23:09 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:I saw it on Thursday after work. Copped 3D because I was in a rush to get the pre-order tickets when they released. Didn't ruin the film, but I'll have to see it in IMAX to get a better feeling. All in all, it hit every emotional string and I found myself surprised how much I was invested in these films. A lot of the moments were just perfectly portrayed. My biggest issue with the movie was the + Show Spoiler +non-need of Capt Marvel. She just delayed Thanos by like 2-3 seconds. Captain America wielding the hammer was amazing but the lightning was kinda forced. And where the hell did he put it after he time traveled back? Sam becoming Black Capt is amazing (he becomes CA in the comics, as does Bucky but I guess they didn't want him to take over). + Show Spoiler +Oddly enough I found your issue to be one of the movie's strong suits. People were expecting the introduction Cpt Marvel to be a cop out as to how to save the world. Instead, she barely made any difference within the movie. What I didn't like was that they had no introductory scene for when she met the other avengers. She was just "there" all of the sudden. I am sure I saw a scene about the avengers checking out Fury's signal in one of the post credit scenes or a trailer, so the producers probably just cut that part?
Unrelated question: How did the Avengers know that the time stone would be in New York at that time, when it was five years before Dr. Strange even acquired it?
+ Show Spoiler +They knew where Strange lived and they went to that location. He wasn't SS at the time, but it would still be in that location or somewhere nearby. + Show Spoiler +That is not an explanation at all. Black Widow (I think) said "if we hit the right time, three of the stones will be in New York". However, it was FIVE YEARS before Steven Strange became Dr. Strange. Knowing that he would own the stone in New York five years from now gave them no knowledge whatsoever where the stone would be at that time. By that reasoning, the stone could be literally anywhere in the universe. + Show Spoiler +But that place where Banner fell has been there for a long ass time and he was sent there because he knew exactly where it was. That's why it was him and not someone else. They knew about all of the events, so tracing things back would have been easy for them to do. And technically, he was Dr. Strange, just not Sorcerer Supreme Dr. Strange. And when the Chitari attacked, the Ancient One was defending the city as well, that's why she was there on the rooftop. She had to be there to protect the city from an off-world invasion. + Show Spoiler + I'm sorry but I don't think you understand at all... All of what you are saying is true, but NOTHING you said explains why the TIME STONE should be there at that time OR why the avenergs should know about it being there I gave you the best explanation I could. You'll have to ask the writers why they did that. Well you should have said beforehand that you were guessing instead of knowing. I just think it's weird that the avengers would carry out such an important plan based on a whim or an assumption. Normally the marvel writers are very aware of that sort of thing. They don't leave many unexplained plot holes.
Pretty sure Strange mentioned that they were keepers of the stone previously. I don't think it's an unexplained plot hole either.
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On April 28 2019 09:03 blade55555 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2019 05:35 InFiNitY[pG] wrote:On April 28 2019 05:26 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:On April 28 2019 04:45 InFiNitY[pG] wrote:On April 28 2019 03:29 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:On April 28 2019 03:09 InFiNitY[pG] wrote:On April 28 2019 01:46 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:On April 28 2019 01:39 InFiNitY[pG] wrote:On April 27 2019 23:09 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:I saw it on Thursday after work. Copped 3D because I was in a rush to get the pre-order tickets when they released. Didn't ruin the film, but I'll have to see it in IMAX to get a better feeling. All in all, it hit every emotional string and I found myself surprised how much I was invested in these films. A lot of the moments were just perfectly portrayed. My biggest issue with the movie was the + Show Spoiler +non-need of Capt Marvel. She just delayed Thanos by like 2-3 seconds. Captain America wielding the hammer was amazing but the lightning was kinda forced. And where the hell did he put it after he time traveled back? Sam becoming Black Capt is amazing (he becomes CA in the comics, as does Bucky but I guess they didn't want him to take over). + Show Spoiler +Oddly enough I found your issue to be one of the movie's strong suits. People were expecting the introduction Cpt Marvel to be a cop out as to how to save the world. Instead, she barely made any difference within the movie. What I didn't like was that they had no introductory scene for when she met the other avengers. She was just "there" all of the sudden. I am sure I saw a scene about the avengers checking out Fury's signal in one of the post credit scenes or a trailer, so the producers probably just cut that part?
Unrelated question: How did the Avengers know that the time stone would be in New York at that time, when it was five years before Dr. Strange even acquired it?
+ Show Spoiler +They knew where Strange lived and they went to that location. He wasn't SS at the time, but it would still be in that location or somewhere nearby. + Show Spoiler +That is not an explanation at all. Black Widow (I think) said "if we hit the right time, three of the stones will be in New York". However, it was FIVE YEARS before Steven Strange became Dr. Strange. Knowing that he would own the stone in New York five years from now gave them no knowledge whatsoever where the stone would be at that time. By that reasoning, the stone could be literally anywhere in the universe. + Show Spoiler +But that place where Banner fell has been there for a long ass time and he was sent there because he knew exactly where it was. That's why it was him and not someone else. They knew about all of the events, so tracing things back would have been easy for them to do. And technically, he was Dr. Strange, just not Sorcerer Supreme Dr. Strange. And when the Chitari attacked, the Ancient One was defending the city as well, that's why she was there on the rooftop. She had to be there to protect the city from an off-world invasion. + Show Spoiler + I'm sorry but I don't think you understand at all... All of what you are saying is true, but NOTHING you said explains why the TIME STONE should be there at that time OR why the avenergs should know about it being there I gave you the best explanation I could. You'll have to ask the writers why they did that. Well you should have said beforehand that you were guessing instead of knowing. I just think it's weird that the avengers would carry out such an important plan based on a whim or an assumption. Normally the marvel writers are very aware of that sort of thing. They don't leave many unexplained plot holes. Pretty sure Strange mentioned that they were keepers of the stone previously. I don't think it's an unexplained plot hole either.
I don't undeestand the point of speculating about this. I asked a simple question so that someone who knew the answer could tell me. Like, I appreciate the effort, but your answer offers literally no valuable Information.
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On April 28 2019 05:38 InFiNitY[pG] wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2019 04:53 Sermokala wrote:On April 28 2019 04:45 InFiNitY[pG] wrote:On April 28 2019 03:29 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:On April 28 2019 03:09 InFiNitY[pG] wrote:On April 28 2019 01:46 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:On April 28 2019 01:39 InFiNitY[pG] wrote:On April 27 2019 23:09 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:I saw it on Thursday after work. Copped 3D because I was in a rush to get the pre-order tickets when they released. Didn't ruin the film, but I'll have to see it in IMAX to get a better feeling. All in all, it hit every emotional string and I found myself surprised how much I was invested in these films. A lot of the moments were just perfectly portrayed. My biggest issue with the movie was the + Show Spoiler +non-need of Capt Marvel. She just delayed Thanos by like 2-3 seconds. Captain America wielding the hammer was amazing but the lightning was kinda forced. And where the hell did he put it after he time traveled back? Sam becoming Black Capt is amazing (he becomes CA in the comics, as does Bucky but I guess they didn't want him to take over). + Show Spoiler +Oddly enough I found your issue to be one of the movie's strong suits. People were expecting the introduction Cpt Marvel to be a cop out as to how to save the world. Instead, she barely made any difference within the movie. What I didn't like was that they had no introductory scene for when she met the other avengers. She was just "there" all of the sudden. I am sure I saw a scene about the avengers checking out Fury's signal in one of the post credit scenes or a trailer, so the producers probably just cut that part?
Unrelated question: How did the Avengers know that the time stone would be in New York at that time, when it was five years before Dr. Strange even acquired it?
+ Show Spoiler +They knew where Strange lived and they went to that location. He wasn't SS at the time, but it would still be in that location or somewhere nearby. + Show Spoiler +That is not an explanation at all. Black Widow (I think) said "if we hit the right time, three of the stones will be in New York". However, it was FIVE YEARS before Steven Strange became Dr. Strange. Knowing that he would own the stone in New York five years from now gave them no knowledge whatsoever where the stone would be at that time. By that reasoning, the stone could be literally anywhere in the universe. + Show Spoiler +But that place where Banner fell has been there for a long ass time and he was sent there because he knew exactly where it was. That's why it was him and not someone else. They knew about all of the events, so tracing things back would have been easy for them to do. And technically, he was Dr. Strange, just not Sorcerer Supreme Dr. Strange. And when the Chitari attacked, the Ancient One was defending the city as well, that's why she was there on the rooftop. She had to be there to protect the city from an off-world invasion. + Show Spoiler + I'm sorry but I don't think you understand at all... All of what you are saying is true, but NOTHING you said explains why the TIME STONE should be there at that time OR why the avengers should know about it being there + Show Spoiler +They didn't know that Dr strange wouldn't be there with the time stone. They only met a short time ago when banner fell into the place in new york. They assumed he would be there with the stone and they had no other clue about where/when the stone would be. + Show Spoiler + They thought they had only ONE shot to get all stones at once and it was specifically said that THREE stones would be in New York at that time. So somehow they knew (thought they knew) about the time stone being there.
They essentially got lucky off of what ended up being a wrong assumption.
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