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Spoilers for the film are in this thread, read at your own peril if you have not seen the movie. No more spoiler tags from page 20
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28099 Posts
September 14 2017 18:48 GMT
#61
Definitely the old one.
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LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
September 14 2017 19:01 GMT
#62
This Luke Skywalker looks a bit more fleshed out and proper. As if the old one was just "Luke Skywalker with a gray beard" whereas this one looks like an elder Jedi in his own right.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
September 14 2017 22:43 GMT
#63
Imo, they tried to do too much or appease too much in The Force Awakens that they ended up not doing much at all except rehashing A New Hope. That said RO > TFA by light years.
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LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
September 14 2017 23:05 GMT
#64
Honestly I found TFA to be a significantly better movie, and I enjoyed both. RO was a bit too throwaway for my liking.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17700 Posts
September 15 2017 00:07 GMT
#65
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
September 17 2017 15:46 GMT
#66
Interesting retcon explanation for why Captain Plasma turned off the shields.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
palexhur
Profile Joined May 2010
Colombia730 Posts
September 17 2017 19:15 GMT
#67
So they just justified with a book, and some comics, one of the several dumb scenes of TFA? nice.
Micro_Jackson
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany2002 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-17 20:47:39
September 17 2017 20:47 GMT
#68
It might be justified for her character, but once again the good guys in star wars win because the designers of a base are stupid.

I mean my phone wont let me change half the settings and this super killer base´s shields can be disabled by one person that isnt even an engineer?
ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
September 17 2017 23:34 GMT
#69
I want to know who the first Jedi was.
"If two pregnant women get into a fist fight, it's like a mecha-battle between two unborn babies." - Fyodor Dostoevsky
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17700 Posts
September 17 2017 23:44 GMT
#70
On September 18 2017 08:34 ninazerg wrote:
I want to know who the first Jedi was.


Dai Bendu
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andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
September 18 2017 15:34 GMT
#71
On September 18 2017 05:47 Micro_Jackson wrote:
It might be justified for her character, but once again the good guys in star wars win because the designers of a base are stupid.

I mean my phone wont let me change half the settings and this super killer base´s shields can be disabled by one person that isnt even an engineer?


In most science fiction media, the aliens have a hive mind and humanity wins by taking out the top alien. Or the aliens are powering their intergalactic empire using one power source with no redundant systems.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-18 15:50:03
September 18 2017 15:36 GMT
#72
If we wanted proper logic, no real military would ever allow a project as significant as the Death Star to be anywhere near as exposed as it was in Ep 4. Star Wars isn't about being an impossible-to-please Star Trek pedant about fake science.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
September 19 2017 15:13 GMT
#73
At the very least, Star Wars could at least hide itself behind a mystique of space mumbo-jumbo and suspension of disbelief.

Don't think I've talked to anyone, hardcore sci-fi or not, who didn't think firing off an entire sun to take out 5 planets solar systems apart wasn't silly. I think the concept of space and space travel has become mainstream blockbuster enough that most people know suns are gigantic and that space is big.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
Hyperbola
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2548 Posts
September 19 2017 19:17 GMT
#74
On September 18 2017 08:44 Manit0u wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2017 08:34 ninazerg wrote:
I want to know who the first Jedi was.


Dai Bendu

EU stuff is lame. I'm glad they scrapped all of it.
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LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
September 19 2017 19:30 GMT
#75
Now the Bendu is just the one in the middle.
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blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
September 19 2017 22:10 GMT
#76
On September 20 2017 04:17 Hyperbola wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2017 08:44 Manit0u wrote:
On September 18 2017 08:34 ninazerg wrote:
I want to know who the first Jedi was.


Dai Bendu

EU stuff is lame. I'm glad they scrapped all of it.


There were some lame stuff, but a lot of it was good (if you read any of the main books). I think this new universe has had a bad start so far, not been a big fan of a lot of the things they've done.

Hoping this movie is better than TFA... Just sucks they had to completely remove all the character development Leia/Han/Luke had in the previous movies.
When I think of something else, something will go here
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
September 20 2017 15:02 GMT
#77
On September 20 2017 04:17 Hyperbola wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2017 08:44 Manit0u wrote:
On September 18 2017 08:34 ninazerg wrote:
I want to know who the first Jedi was.


Dai Bendu

EU stuff is lame. I'm glad they scrapped all of it.

I have two words for you: Admiral Thrawn.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
September 20 2017 15:15 GMT
#78
The EU was of course a gigantic shitfest that no one could make any sense of, so it made sense to kill it. Thrawn and Hand of Thrawn were a fantastic five-book series though. They thankfully did make Thrawn canon again through Star Wars Rebels, although it's not exactly clear where he fits into the overall scheme of things since his original story is probably scrapped. The original Thrawn trilogy did, to be fair, exist before the EU became a clusterfuck; mostly it helped start it. But Hand of Thrawn existed well after and about 10% of it seemed to be devoted to dealing with that crap. And every new addition to the story makes it harder and harder to have coherence.

There hasn't been much in terms of new characters, but I would say the signal to noise ratio of good stuff in the post-Disney Star Wars universe is significantly higher. A much more internally consistent story.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
September 20 2017 22:49 GMT
#79
Saw this and got a good laugh.

Rogue One is a great addition to the Star Wars universe because it takes a glaringly stupid plot mechanism—the exhaust port vulnerability in the Death Star—and attributes it to an architect's sabotage. One of the dumbest things about the Star Wars franchise then becomes something sad, poignant, and believable.

But Rogue One also raises new questions about its fictional world. Some really burning, important questions.

Like, what's the deal with the disk formats of the Star Wars universe?

Upon reviewing the Star Wars canon of movies (no animated films or shows, and no Expanded Universe content, which now exists in a purgatory of maybe-canon), it's become clear to me that that the galaxy is crippled by an abundance of disk formats, with all of the accompanying interoperability issues that we see on our own planet. Every time the Rebel Alliance changes bases, they must be lugging around a spaceship full of drives, both new and obsolete, to read every possible format.

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FreakyDroid
Profile Joined July 2012
Macedonia2616 Posts
September 20 2017 23:02 GMT
#80
Lol, SW:EU wasnt really cannon even before Disney took over. George has made many conflicting statements over the years, first saying that the EU is cannon, but then started changing his opinion the closer the prequels were to be released, to even state the same thing Disney did in 2014: that the movies the accompanying books/materials for the movies and the 2 animated series about the Clone Wars are cannon.

The stupid outrage a few years ago when Disney took over was baseless But at least it generated some discussion and shone a light on the EU because until then not many knew about it. Saying that it was lame, shitfest and whatnot, Im gonna have to call people out on it because you obviously havent read much, if any, outside of Thrawn, because if you had, especially books from Anderesen, Karpyshyn, Luceno etc, or books from Sith PoV like Malak, Bane, Plagueis etc, or graphic novels about X-Wing, Republic, Commando Old Republic, Dark Empire or heck even played KOTOR 1 and 2, you wouldnt be saying that nor you would rate Thrawn as the best, or at least you would know there are 6, not 5 books. Outbound Flight is the name of the book, which is a prequel to the trilogy.

Having read pretty much all of the EU (minus some romantic books and from 2007 onward when I stopped), I think the EU was very good. I dont mind that Disney decided not to follow EU continuity, I understand their position, but so far their take on the SW universe has left me largely unimpressed. I was hoping to see (besides Thrawn) movies from Sith PoV, or movies featuring multifaceted characters, something like Quinlan Vos who is basically a Batman type of character who is a good guy but bends the rules as he sees fit, or something like Kyle Katarn who is basically a Han Solo type of character but a Jedi, or simply make a movie about Ahsoka Tano and tie it in with Rebels. I think these types of characters would be interesting for today's pop culture.
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