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Elentos
55594 Posts
On September 04 2016 23:14 LegalLord wrote: What makes it worse is that this is yet another one of their break weeks, so we won't find out for 2 more weeks what happens. Really? Schedule I saw listed the next episode for next week. | ||
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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
On September 04 2016 23:43 Elentos wrote: Really? Schedule I saw listed the next episode for next week. Yup, I'm wrong. Either they changed their schedule since 3 weeks ago or I just had bad info. | ||
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sashkata
Bulgaria3241 Posts
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On September 04 2016 23:52 LegalLord wrote: Yup, I'm wrong. Either they changed their schedule since 3 weeks ago or I just had bad info. I think episode 59 has a week break. So we get an episode next week, but the next one after that isn't until the 24th. At least that's what I read somewhere. | ||
Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
The Magna itself is set to be released in English by 2017 and Xenoverse 2 is having Dragonball Super storylines in it which released in ENGLISH October 25th or something T_T /rant | ||
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17Sphynx17
580 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Zamasu and black are attacking the world of what we know as the world of future trunks. However, in super, zamasu was shown to be from universe 10, not 7 where it is the universe of our dragon ball series except gt. So if present zamasu of universe 10 is the only zamasu and it was shown that goku of universe 7 meeting and sparring with him was the catalyst for his anger, wouldnt it make sense for future trunks to actually be from universe 10? This has been bothering me because it doesnt make sense for zamasu of universe 10 to cleanse beings from another universe before universe 10 without it altering the omniking or one of his staff. Zamasu was also a kai in training, i am wondering whether the main catalyst for needing a new kai was the death of future trunks' kai when they fought babidee as revealed in the episodes/mangga which also took out their god of destruction for their universe hence why zamasu or black didnt have the god of destruction stop his onslaught throughtout the universe. Trunks was also trained by his universe's kai to fight to stop buu from being released, if we follow dbz timeline, he should have maybe been trained with the z sword. Breaking the z sword is what releases the elder kai, not kaioshin right? And i think the current belief is that he was sealed in the sword so that he doesnt die which can cause the god of destructions death. Just a thought, could be wrong, | ||
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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
On September 07 2016 21:07 17Sphynx17 wrote: I have a qustion for those who managed to watch the latest episode. + Show Spoiler + Zamasu and black are attacking the world of what we know as the world of future trunks. However, in super, zamasu was shown to be from universe 10, not 7 where it is the universe of our dragon ball series except gt. So if present zamasu of universe 10 is the only zamasu and it was shown that goku of universe 7 meeting and sparring with him was the catalyst for his anger, wouldnt it make sense for future trunks to actually be from universe 10? This has been bothering me because it doesnt make sense for zamasu of universe 10 to cleanse beings from another universe before universe 10 without it altering the omniking or one of his staff. Zamasu was also a kai in training, i am wondering whether the main catalyst for needing a new kai was the death of future trunks' kai when they fought babidee as revealed in the episodes/mangga which also took out their god of destruction for their universe hence why zamasu or black didnt have the god of destruction stop his onslaught throughtout the universe. Trunks was also trained by his universe's kai to fight to stop buu from being released, if we follow dbz timeline, he should have maybe been trained with the z sword. Breaking the z sword is what releases the elder kai, not kaioshin right? And i think the current belief is that he was sealed in the sword so that he doesnt die which can cause the god of destructions death. Just a thought, could be wrong, Trunks is from the green time ring timeline. Gowasu specifically mentions that a new alternate timeline was formed just a few years back, which is obviously Trunks going back in time. It is mentioned that Black Goku has already cleansed multiple worlds before coming to Earth. However it's also very clear that Zamasu is really upset about two things: Goku, and the green ring meddling. It makes some sense that he would go after those two relatively early, but we might see more specific details later. Elder Kai is a Kaioshin, but very likely not from the same set as the new one. Or he died because he didn't have too long left to live anyways. It's unlikely that the Kaioshin would train Trunks on their own secret world if there was not an absolute necessity to do so because they take the secrecy of their world seriously enough. As it happened, Kaioshin died and evidently so does the God of Destruction. By the way, apparently there was a retcon and Beerus used a lot less power than he said he did against SSG Goku. Also in the manga Trunks SSJ2 is almost as strong as Goku SSJ3 and Goku used his God form very briefly to beat Trunks. | ||
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RvB
Netherlands6326 Posts
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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
Really, from the beginning SSJ3 was a total glass cannon. It provided some remarkable strength but at a cost that made it almost unviable in real combat. I actually like that SSJ2 seems to be the most versatile of the super saiyan forms and that its power cap is a lot higher than it appeared to be in Z. | ||
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RvB
Netherlands6326 Posts
Edit: not to mention that goku has become a lot stronger in his base form so his ssj3 should've become a lot stronger as well. | ||
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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
The SSJ-at-rest was more of an attempt to save energy on the actual act of transforming, which was substantial. The SSB form also seems to be particularly painful to transform into; in the manga it was stated that vs. Hit, Vegeta was only at 10% of his strength because transforming twice was extremely draining of his stamina. So yes, transforming takes a lot of strength, but SSJ3 is particularly bad for actually maintaining strength. Add that to the fact that the multipliers of strength are particularly unclear, and it's not hard to imagine that a boosted SSJ2 form could measure up to SSJ3. The SSJ3 form has, in general, proven to be weak (my personal interpretation of the anime; not official statements). Trunks was a bit weaker than Vegeta 10 years earlier, and I'm sure he learned a lot about combat from fighting Cell. If he trained every day with the same dedication as Goku or Vegeta, which he did, he could reach a strength level comparable to their non-God forms. Not as strong, but not a pushover either. | ||
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andrewlt
United States7702 Posts
On September 04 2016 17:37 blade55555 wrote: That's why I did to. I have always had a lot of free time, so watching was never a hassle. I can definitely see busy people not being able to do it. It's also relaxing when I was super bored or eating or as you said in a bad mood. I just download the new episode every week and watch when I have nothing better to do. The last time I caught up was when soft resetting for the correct nature in Pokemon or doing some similar grindy shit. The constant slow downs while powering up are perfect for multitasking. | ||
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TelecoM
United States10894 Posts
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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
Kind of disappointing, in that nothing truly special happened in this episode, only setup, and that we have to wait 2 weeks for more episodes. Knew that with how much emphasis they put on tea, that sooner or later poison would be involved, lol. I wonder how they're going to explain why Zamasu went to the future instead of the present, and if they will explain why there is a grandfather paradox in all of this. | ||
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Elentos
55594 Posts
On September 11 2016 23:33 LegalLord wrote: + Show Spoiler + Kind of disappointing, in that nothing truly special happened in this episode, only setup, and that we have to wait 2 weeks for more episodes. Knew that with how much emphasis they put on tea, that sooner or later poison would be involved, lol. I wonder how they're going to explain why Zamasu went to the future instead of the present, and if they will explain why there is a grandfather paradox in all of this. + Show Spoiler + Maybe he figured out the history of Earth in the alternate timeline (the green time ring) and felt it was easier to make his plans work there because if he just went to present day universe 7 to go on a killing spree Beerus would end him. | ||
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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
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Elentos
55594 Posts
On September 12 2016 06:36 LegalLord wrote: That's probably the most likely explanation. Of course, what still remains is the fact that the Zamasu we saw team up with Black would have had to be Future Zamasu, who shouldn't have a Goku in his timeline and thus should have a totally different background and not really care about saiyans that much. There must be like 5 alternate timelines going on by now. | ||
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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
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Elentos
55594 Posts
On September 12 2016 07:20 LegalLord wrote: I don't think it's a different Zamasu, I think it's the same one except he did some time travel. I guess we're just going to have a bizarre grandfather paradox this series. But he'd have to be a different one. Because the one in the present timeline hasn't achieved immortality yet and has no access to the time rings. At the very least he'd be from a different timeline. Because god knows alternate timelines are never confusing. | ||
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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
Maybe more grandfather paradox about running from Beerus in the main timeline. Seems like a convoluted storyline so far, we'll see. | ||
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