if this keeps going with Donna and Harvey it will only lead to
+ Show Spoiler +
angry sex.
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Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
August 08 2013 06:32 GMT
#1261
if this keeps going with Donna and Harvey it will only lead to + Show Spoiler + angry sex. | ||
Cel.erity
United States4890 Posts
August 08 2013 06:39 GMT
#1262
On August 08 2013 15:28 Adreme wrote: Show nested quote + On August 08 2013 15:12 FabledIntegral wrote: I don't really understand why getting Eva off the board somehow lets the Pearson Darbie retain them as a client? Why couldn't they have done that without retaining Pearson Darbie exactly? If they don't kick out Eva as the head of the company then the hostile takeover is successful and that new guy has his own lawyers who would represent them instead of Pearson Darby. Ok, but that still doesn't explain the need to make a deal to keep Pearson Darby on retainer. The company already had Pearson Darby on retainer, so why would that change just because Eva gets ousted? I didn't understand it either. I guess Louis was just trying to make sure Hessington didn't change their minds and switch law firms after the coup? | ||
Adreme
United States5574 Posts
August 08 2013 06:41 GMT
#1263
On August 08 2013 15:39 Cel.erity wrote: Show nested quote + On August 08 2013 15:28 Adreme wrote: On August 08 2013 15:12 FabledIntegral wrote: I don't really understand why getting Eva off the board somehow lets the Pearson Darbie retain them as a client? Why couldn't they have done that without retaining Pearson Darbie exactly? If they don't kick out Eva as the head of the company then the hostile takeover is successful and that new guy has his own lawyers who would represent them instead of Pearson Darby. Ok, but that still doesn't explain the need to make a deal to keep Pearson Darby on retainer. The company already had Pearson Darby on retainer, so why would that change just because Eva gets ousted? I didn't understand it either. I guess Louis was just trying to make sure Hessington didn't change their minds and switch law firms after the coup? They didn't make a deal to keep them on retainer that was just reassurance that a change in management wont bring about a change of council. | ||
FabledIntegral
United States9232 Posts
August 08 2013 06:50 GMT
#1264
On August 08 2013 15:28 Adreme wrote: Show nested quote + On August 08 2013 15:12 FabledIntegral wrote: I don't really understand why getting Eva off the board somehow lets the Pearson Darbie retain them as a client? Why couldn't they have done that without retaining Pearson Darbie exactly? If they don't kick out Eva as the head of the company then the hostile takeover is successful and that new guy has his own lawyers who would represent them instead of Pearson Darby. Yeah, but why does Louis have to advise them of this exactly? As in, the board member for Hesington said that he would in return advise the board to retain Pearson Darbie (Darby?). Why doesn't Hesington Oil just vote her off regardless of what Pearson Darbie advises? It sounded like there was a favor for a favor involved. What favor did Pearson Darbie offer Hesington Oil? | ||
CatNzHat
United States1599 Posts
August 08 2013 06:51 GMT
#1265
On August 08 2013 15:12 FabledIntegral wrote: I don't really understand why getting Eva off the board somehow lets the Pearson Darbie retain them as a client? Why couldn't they have done that without retaining Pearson Darbie exactly? Eva was on trial for a murder charge, and as CEO it was hurting the stock of her company. If the company kicks her out then they no longer have to deal with the repercussions of having a CEO on a murder trail. | ||
DarkPlasmaBall
United States44390 Posts
August 08 2013 07:26 GMT
#1266
I really enjoyed this episode. Things between Mike and Katrina smoothed out and got cute; I liked that. I'm not so happy about Donna doing someone other than Harvey, but oh well. That confrontation should be interesting later on, especially when I think about the mock trial and how Donna loved/ loves Harvey. Plus, it's nice to see Jessica and Edward start to fight instead of just pretending to be nice to each other all the time. | ||
FabledIntegral
United States9232 Posts
August 08 2013 07:36 GMT
#1267
On August 08 2013 15:51 CatNzHat wrote: Show nested quote + On August 08 2013 15:12 FabledIntegral wrote: I don't really understand why getting Eva off the board somehow lets the Pearson Darbie retain them as a client? Why couldn't they have done that without retaining Pearson Darbie exactly? Eva was on trial for a murder charge, and as CEO it was hurting the stock of her company. If the company kicks her out then they no longer have to deal with the repercussions of having a CEO on a murder trail. You answer didn't really have much to do with my question... | ||
Dreamer.T
United States3584 Posts
August 08 2013 07:51 GMT
#1268
On August 08 2013 16:26 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: At the end of the episode, it said that Macht and Adams (Harvey and Mike) were co-producers. Didn't ever realize that. I really enjoyed this episode. Things between Mike and Katrina smoothed out and got cute; I liked that. I'm not so happy about Donna doing someone other than Harvey, but oh well. That confrontation should be interesting later on, especially when I think about the mock trial and how Donna loved/ loves Harvey. Plus, it's nice to see Jessica and Edward start to fight instead of just pretending to be nice to each other all the time. Well, I think its about time Harvey put in a little bit more effort to show his appreciation for Donna besides showing up with money and a little sweet talk. We'll see more of what kind of a man Harvey is in the way he deals with this. Even though Donna works for him, she has every right to date others. | ||
DarkPlasmaBall
United States44390 Posts
August 08 2013 07:58 GMT
#1269
On August 08 2013 16:51 Dreamer.T wrote: Show nested quote + On August 08 2013 16:26 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: At the end of the episode, it said that Macht and Adams (Harvey and Mike) were co-producers. Didn't ever realize that. I really enjoyed this episode. Things between Mike and Katrina smoothed out and got cute; I liked that. I'm not so happy about Donna doing someone other than Harvey, but oh well. That confrontation should be interesting later on, especially when I think about the mock trial and how Donna loved/ loves Harvey. Plus, it's nice to see Jessica and Edward start to fight instead of just pretending to be nice to each other all the time. Well, I think its about time Harvey put in a little bit more effort to show his appreciation for Donna besides showing up with money and a little sweet talk. We'll see more of what kind of a man Harvey is in the way he deals with this. Even though Donna works for him, she has every right to date others. Oh certainly, and I agree with you that he needs to show Donna he cares (if he wants her to stick around him, intimately), especially since Harvey's a player. The situation with Stephen kind of solves its self since he's supposedly only sticking around for a short while... so I guess Donna wants Harvey to know as sort of a formality and so that he doesn't get surprised if he finds out on his own (and possibly induce jealousy?) rather than establishing the relationship for the long run. | ||
Xivsa
United States1009 Posts
August 08 2013 09:20 GMT
#1270
On August 08 2013 15:50 FabledIntegral wrote: Show nested quote + On August 08 2013 15:28 Adreme wrote: On August 08 2013 15:12 FabledIntegral wrote: I don't really understand why getting Eva off the board somehow lets the Pearson Darbie retain them as a client? Why couldn't they have done that without retaining Pearson Darbie exactly? If they don't kick out Eva as the head of the company then the hostile takeover is successful and that new guy has his own lawyers who would represent them instead of Pearson Darby. Yeah, but why does Louis have to advise them of this exactly? As in, the board member for Hesington said that he would in return advise the board to retain Pearson Darbie (Darby?). Why doesn't Hesington Oil just vote her off regardless of what Pearson Darbie advises? It sounded like there was a favor for a favor involved. What favor did Pearson Darbie offer Hesington Oil? Without Louis approaching the board member like that, he might not have either been so receptive to vote out Eva, or he might not have realized he himself could replace her. I think what the show intentionally didn't show was the quo part of the quid pro quo Louis offered, basically, that in exchange for info and/or a plan to replace Eva, the board member would ensure that the 'new' board, including the chairman, would retain Pearson Darby. That's all - it's not a big plot hole, more of a small-ish pothole in which many of the important aspects are left in but certain context bits are left out. | ||
Adreme
United States5574 Posts
August 08 2013 09:58 GMT
#1271
On August 08 2013 15:50 FabledIntegral wrote: Show nested quote + On August 08 2013 15:28 Adreme wrote: On August 08 2013 15:12 FabledIntegral wrote: I don't really understand why getting Eva off the board somehow lets the Pearson Darbie retain them as a client? Why couldn't they have done that without retaining Pearson Darbie exactly? If they don't kick out Eva as the head of the company then the hostile takeover is successful and that new guy has his own lawyers who would represent them instead of Pearson Darby. Yeah, but why does Louis have to advise them of this exactly? As in, the board member for Hesington said that he would in return advise the board to retain Pearson Darbie (Darby?). Why doesn't Hesington Oil just vote her off regardless of what Pearson Darbie advises? It sounded like there was a favor for a favor involved. What favor did Pearson Darbie offer Hesington Oil? Voting out the CEO is a risk so they were just getting assurance that they would still keep there job. Also defeating the takeover is Pearson/Darby's job so its very likely they were not going to make a move like that without there backing. | ||
Waise
3165 Posts
August 08 2013 10:09 GMT
#1272
but i'm open-minded, so if someone can convince me why this show is not like that, maybe i will take an interest and try watching it. anyone? | ||
Velr
Switzerland10731 Posts
August 08 2013 10:13 GMT
#1273
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Dreamer.T
United States3584 Posts
August 08 2013 10:27 GMT
#1274
On August 08 2013 19:09 Waise wrote: from the advertisements this looks like another show that glorifies and glamorized upper class white males with arrogant attitudes who manipulate and marginalize others for their own personal gain but i'm open-minded, so if someone can convince me why this show is not like that, maybe i will take an interest and try watching it. anyone? I'll give it a shot. Yes it is a show about a white collar profession, though not an accurate portrayal at all. The show really is just a drama with interesting characters. I think there is plenty of arrogant and manipulative characters in the show, but I noticed they really do the manipulating to other people in the same "class" as they are. The show does have sympathy to less fortunate characters. If you can look pass the glam and just focus on the characters individually, it can be a great show. If you don't mind both, than it's definitely worth a try! | ||
DarkPlasmaBall
United States44390 Posts
August 08 2013 14:15 GMT
#1275
On August 08 2013 19:27 Dreamer.T wrote: Show nested quote + On August 08 2013 19:09 Waise wrote: from the advertisements this looks like another show that glorifies and glamorized upper class white males with arrogant attitudes who manipulate and marginalize others for their own personal gain but i'm open-minded, so if someone can convince me why this show is not like that, maybe i will take an interest and try watching it. anyone? I'll give it a shot. Yes it is a show about a white collar profession, though not an accurate portrayal at all. The show really is just a drama with interesting characters. I think there is plenty of arrogant and manipulative characters in the show, but I noticed they really do the manipulating to other people in the same "class" as they are. The show does have sympathy to less fortunate characters. If you can look pass the glam and just focus on the characters individually, it can be a great show. If you don't mind both, than it's definitely worth a try! Also, Donna. | ||
Cel.erity
United States4890 Posts
August 08 2013 17:17 GMT
#1276
On August 08 2013 19:09 Waise wrote: from the advertisements this looks like another show that glorifies and glamorized upper class white males with arrogant attitudes who manipulate and marginalize others for their own personal gain but i'm open-minded, so if someone can convince me why this show is not like that, maybe i will take an interest and try watching it. anyone? IMO that's a very accurate portrayal of what the show is. I don't see why that has to be a bad thing. The only part I might question is the "for their own personal gain", as characters often find themselves conflicted between doing what they're told and doing the right thing, and many times they find a win-win solution to keep their conscience intact. Morality is a big theme of the show. Also, it's half-comedy, it can be pretty humorous at times. | ||
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OneOther
United States10774 Posts
August 08 2013 17:57 GMT
#1277
On August 09 2013 02:17 Cel.erity wrote: Show nested quote + On August 08 2013 19:09 Waise wrote: from the advertisements this looks like another show that glorifies and glamorized upper class white males with arrogant attitudes who manipulate and marginalize others for their own personal gain but i'm open-minded, so if someone can convince me why this show is not like that, maybe i will take an interest and try watching it. anyone? IMO that's a very accurate portrayal of what the show is. I don't see why that has to be a bad thing. The only part I might question is the "for their own personal gain", as characters often find themselves conflicted between doing what they're told and doing the right thing, and many times they find a win-win solution to keep their conscience intact. Morality is a big theme of the show. Also, it's half-comedy, it can be pretty humorous at times. I mean, the show is based on an elite law firm in New York City. Obviously you will see rich white men. But the show doesn't take itself too seriously when it comes to that. The characters are awesome, the script is humorous and it's overall very entertaining. | ||
GhostOwl
766 Posts
August 09 2013 01:12 GMT
#1278
I really want her to become Mike's new love interest (Rachel is too bitchy and annoying) but I don't see how it would happen when the two of them have zero sexual tension between each other. But knowing shows like this, it will probably happen eventually and make a love triangle between the 3. EDIT: okay just watched the latest episode, it's gonna happen. | ||
evilfatsh1t
Australia8668 Posts
August 09 2013 08:22 GMT
#1279
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EchoZ
Japan5041 Posts
August 09 2013 16:32 GMT
#1280
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