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DarkPlasmaBall
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ZenithM
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States44334 Posts
On July 02 2015 23:31 ZenithM wrote: Jessica just oozes power. Yeah I far prefer the strong bosswoman Jessica to the vulnerable and fallible Jessica we saw when she was dating that guy. It's an interesting contrast from everyone else's role of occasionally doing stupid shit just because they didn't communicate properly. | ||
DarkPlasmaBall
United States44334 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + I figure this was far less sexist and less subjective than Hottest Top Ten ![]() I tried my best to come up with the ten most influential female characters on Suits. It's based on the furthering of plots and sub-plots, relevance and relationships with other characters, and just general storyline appeal (e.g., could Suits survive without this character and her effects on everyone and everything?). I hope you enjoy it! #10. + Show Spoiler + Norma. The woman we never see, and she's only mentioned occasionally throughout the first few seasons. The reason why she's even on the list is due to the devastation caused to Louis by her death, as well as her secretarial relationship with Donna. At the end of season four, we see him completely break down and even hallucinate because of her death. This (along with Donna and Harvey's fight over "I love you") sets the wheels in motion for Donna to help Louis out as his new secretary. (If this list was created before her death, she would have been too irrelevant to include.) Clip about Norma: http://www.usanetwork.com/suits/videos/firing-norma #9. + Show Spoiler + Zoe Lawford. Played by Jacinda Barrett, the real-life wife of Gabriel Macht (Harvey Specter), she's one of the first characters who opens us up to the softer side of Harvey. While she's not instrumental to much of the storyline, she shows that Harvey is capable of affection, especially when he shows up at her doorstep with flowers. Contributing to the emotional growth of Harvey, as well as her lawyer background and occasional cameos, gives her enough credit in my book to place her as number nine. (Another fun fact: Zoe's niece in the show is Jacinda and Gabriel's real-life daughter!) ![]() #8. + Show Spoiler + Jenny Griffith. Jenny, Mike's oldest female friend and eventual love interest, has helped Mike keep his good intentions and not turn into Trevor 2.0. She's undoubtedly the sweetest and purest girl on the show, and back when Rachel was acting incredibly bipolar, it was a bit disheartening that Mike chose Rachel over this girl next door. She's definitely the kind of friend that Mike had needed in his life though, especially growing up. ![]() #7. + Show Spoiler + Dana Scott. Periodically, we see the relationship between Scottie and Harvey flourish and reflourish, and even hear about their history together. Them working together during the Darby merger actually made for an interesting plot twist. Unlike Zoe, Scottie is a girl that Harvey eventually opens up to about as many secrets as possible- including Mike's secret. Unfortunately, it seems like it's too little too late, and we see Scottie disappear and get married. ![]() #6. + Show Spoiler + Sheila Sasz. She just has to be up this high. She truly is Female Louis. For Louis to ask for her hand in marriage and to even consider leaving the firm shows the kind of commitment that Louis had for her. One of the most emotional scenes of the show is when they're in his office, he asks her "Please don't make me leave my family", she says she'll more to New York... and then he mentions how they're going to have amazing children together. It's got to be the biggest roller coaster of emotions on the show so far- to go from such a celebratory high to such a devastating low. In fact, go watch it again, somehow: "Heartburn", Season 3, Episode 14. ![]() #5. + Show Spoiler + Edith Ross. The woman who raised Mike, complete with wisdom beyond her years, Mike's grandmother was constantly the voice of reason and the angel on Mike's shoulder, especially in regards to Trevor and Rachel. She was the only on-screen character who passed away, and the devastation Mike feels for working instead of spending time with her creates a breakdown where even Harvey immediately supports him. Both figuratively and literally, Mike wouldn't exist without his grandma. ![]() #4. + Show Spoiler + Katrina Bennett. I had originally put Katrina as #7 behind Sheila and Scottie and Edith, but I feel like Katrina-lovers would have tarred and feathered me for putting her so low. I took a step back, reflected, and realized that, while Scottie was primarily affecting Harvey and Sheila was primarily affecting Louis and Edith was primarily affecting Mike, Katrina stirred up emotions with multiple characters. She butts heads with Mike and Harvey and Donna and Jessica, just because she wants to be valued and feel appreciated. She's later seen as an asset and friend to characters like Mike, and her bond with Louis is undeniable. She elicits confidence and self-worth in Louis that he barely knew he had, and it's easy to root for that ex-pair. It would definitely be wonderful to see her again playing for Team Louis! ![]() #3. + Show Spoiler + Jessica Pearson. With the exception of her single kryptonite that is Jeff Malone, she's always the smartest person (not just woman) in the room, and is more than capable of putting Harvey, Donna, Louis, Mike, Rachel, and anyone else in their place. Granted, it's because she's in charge, but Harvey wouldn't be the successful lawyer he is if it weren't for Jessica's charity and tutelage. Preferring respect over fear- but knowing that she'd rather have the latter than neither- she tries to get Harvey and Louis to play nice, to make sure Mike doesn't completely screw over the firm with his secret, and let the other ladies know that she's the top dog. ![]() #2. + Show Spoiler + Rachel Zane. For the first few seasons, she often did more harm than good when it came to relationships, sub-plots, and solving problems; she was the hot, flaky, bipolar love interest of Mike. Over the past dozen episodes or so, however, she's clearly evolved into a character with a little more common sense, especially in terms of communicating with Mike. Her involvement with the other main characters is undeniable, and I feel that she has more relationships that are both professional and emotional than Jessica does (who primarily needs to focus on the former). She's also the reason why Robert Zane- her father- is a relevant character, which is a win in my book. ![]() #1. + Show Spoiler + Donna Paulsen. She's Donna. It's like a name and a title in one. She knows everything. She's got the attitude, confidence, swagger, whatever you want to call it. She knows when and how to manipulate people, and when and how to be their best friend or the voice of reason or to be the hard truth when it's deserved. She's respected and appreciated by everyone, and the relationships she has with each other character are unique and dynamic, from Shakespeare with Louis to the history with Harvey. Donna's love for Harvey has been a consistent theme throughout the show, from the mock trial to Stephen Huntley to now working with Louis. She's one of the most interesting characters on the show. And why shouldn't she be? After all, she's Donna. ![]() Feedback is appreciated ![]() | ||
SwARmZzz
Canada193 Posts
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evilfatsh1t
Australia8651 Posts
but overall good power rank On July 03 2015 08:48 SwARmZzz wrote: So what is that thing that Louis values the most in the firm? #1 | ||
DarkPlasmaBall
United States44334 Posts
On July 03 2015 08:48 SwARmZzz wrote: So what is that thing that Louis values the most in the firm? I think respect and appreciation from the rest of the gang, especially from Harvey, Jessica, and Donna. On July 03 2015 08:50 evilfatsh1t wrote: i would have put jessica pearson as 2nd and put rachel zane on 10th because i hate the bitch but overall good power rank Thanks ![]() ![]() I'm interested in hearing some feedback from the person who picked "Strongly Disagree". | ||
ZenithM
France15952 Posts
Edit: Haha well evilfatsh1t agreed with me apparently. | ||
DarkPlasmaBall
United States44334 Posts
On July 03 2015 09:58 ZenithM wrote: This list is alright, my dear DarkPlasmaBall. I would even say I completely agree with it, if only I didn't have this irrational disdain of Rachel's character instilled inside me last season. Edit: Haha well evilfatsh1t agreed with me apparently. I had a few differences in my first draft, including the literal phrase "Despite my hatred of her," in Rachel's notes hahaha. | ||
malcram
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Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
Jessica is waaaaay more important, like not even close but too be fair there aren't that many influential/interesting females anyway apart from Donna and Jessica. | ||
DarkPlasmaBall
United States44334 Posts
On July 05 2015 09:52 Seeker wrote: Someone explain to me please, why do people hate Rachel? For the first 3-4 seasons, she was completely bipolar in that she'd try to act sympathetic and loving half the time but then the other half of the time she would be bitchy and two-faced and really go out of her way to fuck up deals and relationships and other things that were working out just fine without her meddling. | ||
DarkPlasmaBall
United States44334 Posts
On July 05 2015 10:26 Kipsate wrote: Rachel is misplaced for sure, I don't actually think shes much more then Mike's girlfriend throughout the entire show and never really does anything relevant honestly. Shes not a character of her own, shes Mike's attachment. Jessica is waaaaay more important, like not even close but too be fair there aren't that many influential/interesting females anyway apart from Donna and Jessica. Yeah I originally had switched Jessica with Rachel, but I feel like Rachel has more relationships with more characters than Jessica does. Jessica doesn't really interact much with Donna or Mike or Rachel (mainly just Louis and Harvey) because they're so far beneath her. Rachel interacts with Donna and Louis and obviously Mike... just not Harvey usually. | ||
Elurie
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At least she isn't pathetic like Scottie. But unfortunately for us, she gets far more screen time than Scottie. | ||
evilfatsh1t
Australia8651 Posts
she also pulled through with louis' cat trial vs nigel but yeah overall she acts as the moral voice of mike, despite her ideas/decisions being totally stupid and annoying i dont see how scottie is pathetic though. i guess its weird for us to never see her win anything despite her being supposedly near harvey's level, but no one really beats harvey. and when youre a love interest to harvey what can you do | ||
Talaris
Switzerland753 Posts
On July 07 2015 13:32 Elurie wrote: There's no evidence of her "best paralegal/researcher" trait that the show wants us to believe; or I just can't remember the show having any case that was won by Rachel's amazing research prowess. On July 07 2015 14:29 evilfatsh1t wrote: well rachel has helped mike solve a problem in the past, though i dont remember what the case was exactly she also pulled through with louis' cat trial vs nigel wait, wait ! there were cases on the show ? what did I miss ? | ||
Djagulingu
Germany3605 Posts
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ZenithM
France15952 Posts
DarkPlasmaBall wanted a ranking of which character has had more influence, in term of narrative and relationships. | ||
Elurie
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On July 03 2015 08:48 SwARmZzz wrote: So what is that thing that Louis values the most in the firm? Puppets! + Show Spoiler + | ||
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