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On December 13 2014 17:28 TwoToneTerran wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2014 15:29 jubil wrote:
Oh shit, somehow I didn't even realize he wasn't, all his family are, and Kuvira is, so I just assumed : / And now you know why he finally went off the edge and betrayed his family. As the descendant of a super famous bending family, only he and Opal were non benders. Suddenly, Opal gets airbending and now he's the odd man out of the children. His constant inferiority complex towards his father is only exacerbated by his feeling of worthlessness next to his siblings.
Reminds me of Sokka
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holyshit im so hyped for this now
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Where did Baatar Sr. run off to in this episode?
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On December 13 2014 14:44 WolfintheSheep wrote:
The "obvious" solution for the Spirit Weapon is for Korra to do some Avatar-thing and like...get rid of the "Spirit" from the vine ammo? Or something like that.
But yeah, holy shit that robot looks terrible.
was waiting the entire episode for this:
+ Show Spoiler +![[image loading]](http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20090823035332/starwars/images/7/70/ATATtripped.jpg) but with flying mecha suits instead of rebel fighters, you know
probably gonna get it in the final episode, that's why I put it into spoilers.
Didn't really like this episode though, somehow felt like there was a lot more actually happening during the episode where they used old material but with funny voice-overs.
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On December 14 2014 04:27 Fi0na wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2014 14:44 WolfintheSheep wrote:
The "obvious" solution for the Spirit Weapon is for Korra to do some Avatar-thing and like...get rid of the "Spirit" from the vine ammo? Or something like that.
But yeah, holy shit that robot looks terrible. was waiting the entire episode for this: + Show Spoiler +but with flying mecha suits instead of rebel fighters, you know probably gonna get it in the final episode, that's why I put it into spoilers. Didn't really like this episode though, somehow felt like there was a lot more actually happening during the episode where they used old material but with funny voice-overs.
Considering the almost overwhelming amount of Star Wars references in Book 4, this actually has a fairly high chance of happening.
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yeah, I was expecting the hummingbirds vs giant mech to be pretty much speeders vs AT-AT... hopefully not all the hummingbirds got destroyed when the factory went down ;;
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The spirit weapon doesn't hold up under any serious scrutiny. They harvested all those vines and they have all this capability to create hundreds of mech fighters, not to mention the giant robot. But the spirit weapon is their trump card that tips the scales and decides the victory, it's the one thing that Iroh's army can not fight against. So what does Kuvira do? She creates a giant vulnerable robot of questionable design (it's a proto-type for god sake) and outfits it with one single spirit cannon.
Why not build ten tanks with ten spirit cannons? They have the technology.
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I just found out Kuvira is voiced by Zelda Williams!
That is so cool.
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On December 14 2014 06:48 Grumbels wrote:
The spirit weapon doesn't hold up under any serious scrutiny. They harvested all those vines and they have all this capability to create hundreds of mech fighters, not to mention the giant robot. But the spirit weapon is their trump card that tips the scales and decides the victory, it's the one thing that Iroh's army can not fight against. So what does Kuvira do? She creates a giant vulnerable robot of questionable design (it's a proto-type for god sake) and outfits it with one single spirit cannon.
Why not build ten tanks with ten spirit cannons? They have the technology.
because that would make sense and stuff - this is still a kid's show at heart, so we'll have to deal with stupid stuff like this
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Also, good thinking: leave the second-highest ranked member of your military and the main force behind your engineering efforts behind in a vulnerable air ship and when he's captured blow him up without attempting to mount a rescue mission. The way the entire world acceded to Korra's (empty) threat was ridiculous and is obvious idiot plotting. It seems the writers were intent on having their dramatic finish regardless of whether it made anyone seem out of character. Especially Bataar for completely giving in and accepting the finality of Korra's threat -- was he always so weak? Kuvira too for this pointless sacrifice. (anyway, fun episode :p )
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On December 14 2014 07:20 Grumbels wrote:
Also, good thinking: leave the second-highest ranked member of your military and the main force behind your engineering efforts behind in a vulnerable air ship and when he's captured blow him up without attempting to mount a rescue mission. The way the entire world acceded to Korra's (empty) threat was ridiculous and is obvious idiot plotting. It seems the writers were intent on having their dramatic finish regardless of whether it made anyone seem out of character. Especially Bataar for completely giving in and accepting the finality of Korra's threat -- was he always so weak? Kuvira too for this pointless sacrifice. (anyway, fun episode :p )
The entire world acceded to korra's threat? Didn't know Korra threatened the world :o.
In seriousness though I thought that was her plan when she got the signal, to send a rescue party. I was not expecting her to try and kill all of them xD
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On December 14 2014 07:33 blade55555 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2014 07:20 Grumbels wrote:
Also, good thinking: leave the second-highest ranked member of your military and the main force behind your engineering efforts behind in a vulnerable air ship and when he's captured blow him up without attempting to mount a rescue mission. The way the entire world acceded to Korra's (empty) threat was ridiculous and is obvious idiot plotting. It seems the writers were intent on having their dramatic finish regardless of whether it made anyone seem out of character. Especially Bataar for completely giving in and accepting the finality of Korra's threat -- was he always so weak? Kuvira too for this pointless sacrifice. (anyway, fun episode :p ) The entire world acceded to korra's threat? Didn't know Korra threatened the world :o. In seriousness though I thought that was her plan when she got the signal, to send a rescue party. I was not expecting her to try and kill all of them xD
Korra's threat to keep Bataar hostage is treated as if it's a game changer. Bataar and Kuvira both act like Korra's plan is full-proof. This in a show where people are captured and freed on a daily basis. When Bataar is absolutely necessary for the war-effort and Kuvira can hardly afford to just off him, she seems to care about him too.
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On December 14 2014 06:48 Grumbels wrote:
The spirit weapon doesn't hold up under any serious scrutiny. They harvested all those vines and they have all this capability to create hundreds of mech fighters, not to mention the giant robot. But the spirit weapon is their trump card that tips the scales and decides the victory, it's the one thing that Iroh's army can not fight against. So what does Kuvira do? She creates a giant vulnerable robot of questionable design (it's a proto-type for god sake) and outfits it with one single spirit cannon.
Why not build ten tanks with ten spirit cannons? They have the technology.
Time and transport.
Zhu Li was able to warn them of the incoming attack and specifics of the weapon, having to build more just gives them time to prepare against it. Secondly, the cannon in its original form needed to be transported using a rail system which was going to be destroyed after the evacuation. This way, Kuvira is able to start to attack much earlier than expected.
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On December 14 2014 06:48 Grumbels wrote:
The spirit weapon doesn't hold up under any serious scrutiny. They harvested all those vines and they have all this capability to create hundreds of mech fighters, not to mention the giant robot. But the spirit weapon is their trump card that tips the scales and decides the victory, it's the one thing that Iroh's army can not fight against. So what does Kuvira do? She creates a giant vulnerable robot of questionable design (it's a proto-type for god sake) and outfits it with one single spirit cannon.
Why not build ten tanks with ten spirit cannons? They have the technology.
It wouldn't be high enough to shoot past the buildings at the ships, but I agree with the logistics. It's why mechas don't exist in our world.
On December 14 2014 08:43 ConGee wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2014 06:48 Grumbels wrote:
The spirit weapon doesn't hold up under any serious scrutiny. They harvested all those vines and they have all this capability to create hundreds of mech fighters, not to mention the giant robot. But the spirit weapon is their trump card that tips the scales and decides the victory, it's the one thing that Iroh's army can not fight against. So what does Kuvira do? She creates a giant vulnerable robot of questionable design (it's a proto-type for god sake) and outfits it with one single spirit cannon.
Why not build ten tanks with ten spirit cannons? They have the technology. Time and transport. Zhu Li was able to warn them of the incoming attack and specifics of the weapon, having to build more just gives them time to prepare against it. Secondly, the cannon in its original form needed to be transported using a rail system which was going to be destroyed after the evacuation. This way, Kuvira is able to start to attack much earlier than expected.
It sounds like building it was always her plan since the order to take apart the domes to make scrap metal.
I feel Kuvira's army was also small compared to what we saw at Zaofu.
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On December 13 2014 05:48 Fleetfeet wrote:
What makes the robots shitty in my books is how poorly designed they are. Yeah, I get 3d models en masse really, really fucking help with budget because of the options they open, but where it's been done in a way that sort of blends with the world before (A lot of the airships and Asami's car(s?) are good examples of 3d models designed to fit into an anime render without looking like trash) the mechs stick out like a sore thumb, and don't have interesting design -or- animation. To an extent, it's forgivable, but drawing so much attention to it via the giant mech is kinda shitty. Stick to your forte, designers and animators, your skills with 3d are super basic and it really shows.
That said, a lot of the digipainting backgrounds in the last episode were pretty fucking great. There was a pan through town and a mountain range that stuck out in particular.
idk, I always kind of thought the designs sticking out was intentional, symbolizing how unnatural/wrong Kuvira's mechs are in the Avatar world. Could just be me making excuses but *shrug*
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I just figured that these are the first mechs ever built so they are naturally simplistic in nature. Even though they do have some neat features like flamethrowers or cables etc.
Also, who the fuck cares about the mech designs?
There's no way these people are making gunbusters or gundams or dangaioh's wtf
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On December 15 2014 06:48 SK.Testie wrote:
I just figured that these are the first mechs ever built so they are naturally simplistic in nature. Even though they do have some neat features like flamethrowers or cables etc.
Also, who the fuck cares about the mech designs?
There's no way these people are making gunbusters or gundams or dangaioh's wtf
Kuvira didn't invent mechs. Remember the Equalists had mechs as well.
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On December 15 2014 08:59 Millitron wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2014 06:48 SK.Testie wrote:
I just figured that these are the first mechs ever built so they are naturally simplistic in nature. Even though they do have some neat features like flamethrowers or cables etc.
Also, who the fuck cares about the mech designs?
There's no way these people are making gunbusters or gundams or dangaioh's wtf Kuvira didn't invent mechs. Remember the Equalists had mechs as well.
weren't they all made by hiroshi sato anyways?
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+ Show Spoiler +Am I the only one that is wondering how they went from barely-functional tank to giant mecha in apparently less than a week?
They are saying that not even Julie did not know about this, but then who the hell built it? Bataar was busy with the tank.
And how fast they got that thing there?
I mean, I could live with that mecha if it wasn't brought in like "YOU KNOW WHAT GUYS? GIANT FUCKING MECHA. WHY? BECAUSE GIANT FUCKING MECHA!"
Bleh, this show is getting redonkulous.
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