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On December 08 2014 20:20 Uldridge wrote:Show nested quote +On December 07 2014 14:48 WolfintheSheep wrote:They said in a panel that the metalbender design was supposed to be like Stormtroopers: http://screenrant.com/legend-korra-season-4-episode-2-description-nycc-panel/The wall went around the whole Earth Nation, or at least enough that Bolin and Varrick had to fake their way through a checkpoint instead just...you know, walking around the wall. But it's not like the Berlin Wall extended across Eastern Europe anyway. The cannon definitely looks like that German cannon. Thematically it's a nuke. And functionally it's basically a Death Star put in Avatarverse scale (hell, the setup for the last episode was fairly New Hope-ish). And really, if you want to talk about a Chinese dictator with a cult of personality and an isolationist policy who forces mass industrialization, the obvious reference would be Mao. Not everything has to be an allegory. She's a dictator that fits into the storyline and the Avatarverse, and there's a lot of references, just like Avatar has always had. Doesn't mean she has to represent one single person. Guy, look and think what he typed please. Firstly: stormtroopers are inspired by the german soldiers. Ok, maybe the inspiration on an inspiration doens't warrant a direct reference, but it still isn't lost. Secondly: the tank is a very good resemblance. Thirdly: Hitler did unify germany, not only with political prowess, but also by force. Fourthly: Ba Sing Se is walled, not the entire Earth Nation. They passed checkpoints for Ba Sing Se. It's 3 walls. Outer, Middle, Inner shell. Just search in the Avatar Wiki for Ba Sing Se and Earth Kingdom and you'll see how your assessment of walls around the kingdom is silly. Fifthly: the Hitler analogy is silly. Let's just let it slide.
Hitler did not unify Germany, you are thinking of Bismarck (Blood and Iron).
I thought it was a very good episode with a well choreographed fight scene.
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On December 08 2014 21:59 duckii wrote:
Hitler did not unify Germany, you are thinking of Bismarck (Blood and Iron).
I thought it was a very good episode with a well choreographed fight scene.
I'm not talking about geopolitical unification. I'm talking about economic/patriotic/... unification. Demonizing other nations under the motto of destroying the economy and suffering it brought from the first war. That's what primarily motivated Germany to relive the way they did.
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On December 08 2014 04:34 Darkhorse wrote:
That was a really good episode I thought.
Would've been better if Toph had gone "I'm the greatest earth bender to ever live!" And kicked Kuvira's ass
Yeah I'm a Toph fan
Would have brought the amazing episode to a whole new level 
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So if Toph knows that Lavabending is a thing people are capable of doing does that mean she can do it? I can't imagine Toph NOT being able to do any facet of Earthbending...
I as praying that she'd lavabend during the most recent episode. :d
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On December 09 2014 02:09 Zambrah wrote:
So if Toph knows that Lavabending is a thing people are capable of doing does that mean she can do it? I can't imagine Toph NOT being able to do any facet of Earthbending...
I as praying that she'd lavabend during the most recent episode. :d
I also refuse to believe that there is anything earthbending related that Toph can't do
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On December 08 2014 20:20 Uldridge wrote:Show nested quote +On December 07 2014 14:48 WolfintheSheep wrote:They said in a panel that the metalbender design was supposed to be like Stormtroopers: http://screenrant.com/legend-korra-season-4-episode-2-description-nycc-panel/The wall went around the whole Earth Nation, or at least enough that Bolin and Varrick had to fake their way through a checkpoint instead just...you know, walking around the wall. But it's not like the Berlin Wall extended across Eastern Europe anyway. The cannon definitely looks like that German cannon. Thematically it's a nuke. And functionally it's basically a Death Star put in Avatarverse scale (hell, the setup for the last episode was fairly New Hope-ish). And really, if you want to talk about a Chinese dictator with a cult of personality and an isolationist policy who forces mass industrialization, the obvious reference would be Mao. Not everything has to be an allegory. She's a dictator that fits into the storyline and the Avatarverse, and there's a lot of references, just like Avatar has always had. Doesn't mean she has to represent one single person. Guy, look and think what he typed please. Firstly: stormtroopers are inspired by the german soldiers. Ok, maybe the inspiration on an inspiration doens't warrant a direct reference, but it still isn't lost. Secondly: the tank is a very good resemblance. Thirdly: Hitler did unify germany, not only with political prowess, but also by force. Fourthly: Ba Sing Se is walled, not the entire Earth Nation. They passed checkpoints for Ba Sing Se. It's 3 walls. Outer, Middle, Inner shell. Just search in the Avatar Wiki for Ba Sing Se and Earth Kingdom and you'll see how your assessment of walls around the kingdom is silly. Fifthly: the Hitler analogy is silly. Let's just let it slide.
I was talking about the checkpoint Bolin and Varrick had to pass in episode...4? 5? When they were grouped with all of those non-earth benders. There was that big wall, and they said that was the only point where they'd be able to cross over.
Which was rather silly, if you think about it, since Bolin should've been able to Earth Bend them over any kind of wall...whatever, cartoon episode logic.
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On December 09 2014 03:39 WolfintheSheep wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2014 20:20 Uldridge wrote:On December 07 2014 14:48 WolfintheSheep wrote:They said in a panel that the metalbender design was supposed to be like Stormtroopers: http://screenrant.com/legend-korra-season-4-episode-2-description-nycc-panel/The wall went around the whole Earth Nation, or at least enough that Bolin and Varrick had to fake their way through a checkpoint instead just...you know, walking around the wall. But it's not like the Berlin Wall extended across Eastern Europe anyway. The cannon definitely looks like that German cannon. Thematically it's a nuke. And functionally it's basically a Death Star put in Avatarverse scale (hell, the setup for the last episode was fairly New Hope-ish). And really, if you want to talk about a Chinese dictator with a cult of personality and an isolationist policy who forces mass industrialization, the obvious reference would be Mao. Not everything has to be an allegory. She's a dictator that fits into the storyline and the Avatarverse, and there's a lot of references, just like Avatar has always had. Doesn't mean she has to represent one single person. Guy, look and think what he typed please. Firstly: stormtroopers are inspired by the german soldiers. Ok, maybe the inspiration on an inspiration doens't warrant a direct reference, but it still isn't lost. Secondly: the tank is a very good resemblance. Thirdly: Hitler did unify germany, not only with political prowess, but also by force. Fourthly: Ba Sing Se is walled, not the entire Earth Nation. They passed checkpoints for Ba Sing Se. It's 3 walls. Outer, Middle, Inner shell. Just search in the Avatar Wiki for Ba Sing Se and Earth Kingdom and you'll see how your assessment of walls around the kingdom is silly. Fifthly: the Hitler analogy is silly. Let's just let it slide. I was talking about the checkpoint Bolin and Varrick had to pass in episode...4? 5? When they were grouped with all of those non-earth benders. There was that big wall, and they said that was the only point where they'd be able to cross over. Which was rather silly, if you think about it, since Bolin should've been able to Earth Bend them over any kind of wall...whatever, cartoon episode logic.
They said there are guards all along the wall so the best bet was to go through the checkpoint and pretend to be still members of the army and escort "prisoners". unfortunately they already had wanted posters of bolin and varrick.
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If they're so good at earthbending, why can't they move underground like moles? I'm hoping for metal benders that can swim in a sea of coins like Scrooge McDuck:
http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--EQnX2BBf--/17kdjxvdqvygyjpg.jpg
tbh, I'm happy the bending isn't too overpowered though. I think Kuvira is a very good villain in terms of personal ability. She's not overpowered but clearly very strong.
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On December 09 2014 02:09 Zambrah wrote:
So if Toph knows that Lavabending is a thing people are capable of doing does that mean she can do it? I can't imagine Toph NOT being able to do any facet of Earthbending...
I as praying that she'd lavabend during the most recent episode. :d
The fact she said it was a rare ability makes me think it's something special which not everyone can do. Genetic rather than skill-based.
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On December 09 2014 03:39 WolfintheSheep wrote:
I was talking about the checkpoint Bolin and Varrick had to pass in episode...4? 5? When they were grouped with all of those non-earth benders. There was that big wall, and they said that was the only point where they'd be able to cross over.
Which was rather silly, if you think about it, since Bolin should've been able to Earth Bend them over any kind of wall...whatever, cartoon episode logic.
Yes I remember now, my bad. And my apologies, thought you were talking about last season where they infiltrated Ba Sing Se. I guess that's all Kuvira though. It might be a way to structure things on a military level.
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On December 09 2014 11:30 Birdie wrote:Show nested quote +On December 09 2014 02:09 Zambrah wrote:
So if Toph knows that Lavabending is a thing people are capable of doing does that mean she can do it? I can't imagine Toph NOT being able to do any facet of Earthbending...
I as praying that she'd lavabend during the most recent episode. :d The fact she said it was a rare ability makes me think it's something special which not everyone can do. Genetic rather than skill-based.
I think there has been some speculation that lavabending requires an earthbender to have some firebending lineage. The beifong family was very rich and reputable, and I have a hard time believing that toph had any firebender blood, so I'm gonna guess that she can't lavabend. Bolin, on the other hand, has a firebender mom.
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On December 11 2014 15:42 wizard944 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 09 2014 11:30 Birdie wrote:On December 09 2014 02:09 Zambrah wrote:
So if Toph knows that Lavabending is a thing people are capable of doing does that mean she can do it? I can't imagine Toph NOT being able to do any facet of Earthbending...
I as praying that she'd lavabend during the most recent episode. :d The fact she said it was a rare ability makes me think it's something special which not everyone can do. Genetic rather than skill-based. I think there has been some speculation that lavabending requires an earthbender to have some firebending lineage. The beifong family was very rich and reputable, and I have a hard time believing that toph had any firebender blood, so I'm gonna guess that she can't lavabend. Bolin, on the other hand, has a firebender mom.
i have difficultly believing that anything related to bending is genetic because of the return of airbending
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On December 11 2014 17:22 Frolossus wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2014 15:42 wizard944 wrote:On December 09 2014 11:30 Birdie wrote:On December 09 2014 02:09 Zambrah wrote:
So if Toph knows that Lavabending is a thing people are capable of doing does that mean she can do it? I can't imagine Toph NOT being able to do any facet of Earthbending...
I as praying that she'd lavabend during the most recent episode. :d The fact she said it was a rare ability makes me think it's something special which not everyone can do. Genetic rather than skill-based. I think there has been some speculation that lavabending requires an earthbender to have some firebending lineage. The beifong family was very rich and reputable, and I have a hard time believing that toph had any firebender blood, so I'm gonna guess that she can't lavabend. Bolin, on the other hand, has a firebender mom. i have difficultly believing that anything related to bending is genetic because of the return of airbending
The whole return of airbending is just a deus ex machina.
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Airbending returning had something to do with the spirit portals being reopened.
Like, you could still make an argument for genetics. It's latently present, but not activated since the spiritual energy was kept from the world for so long. Since the spiritual energy has been flowing freely ever since the portals opened, so have the airbending lineages been restored.
As for lavabending, who knows. How did Toph make the fire in the swamp when Korra visited her? She might still be able to do it, but the genetics thing kind of makes sense. Also, it could be possible that at a certain earthbending level alot more possibilities open up.
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Pretty sure they said before that the lack of Airbenders was largely caused by a decrease in spirituality and connection to the spirit world. That was from commentary before Season 1 even started.
So, really, the appearance of Airbenders in Season 3 was somewhat predictable, though maybe not quite so suddenly.
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This week's episode is quite late it seems . Can't find it any place.
Woe is me 
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you're not the only one who cant find it yet normally i could watch it at this time
did something change because it's back on TV so it airs later?
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On December 12 2014 21:09 Spaylz wrote:This week's episode is quite late it seems . Can't find it any place. Woe is me
apparently it is delayed by a few hours according to a few of my usual sources.
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So, I never watched Legend of Korra. Did the show ended already? I'm thinking about picking it up to watch.
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On December 12 2014 21:39 LA_Morello wrote:
So, I never watched Legend of Korra. Did the show ended already? I'm thinking about picking it up to watch.
Finishes next week.
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