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On December 06 2014 02:48 Uldridge wrote:I absolutely loved Su's one move , you know which one i'm talking about. That was so fucking sexy. Hint: + Show Spoiler +it was the armor incasing
That whole fight was amazing and I wish it had been longer. Some of the fights in the last two seasons have just been jaw dropping. What could have been with a full season/budget T______T
On December 05 2014 22:51 Warri wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2014 17:40 blade55555 wrote:For politeness episode 10 spoilers  + Show Spoiler +Great episode, we find out who Lin's dad is and as expected it was... Konto or something. Awesome fight scene at the end with su/kuviera and of course Toph taking down that whole army was badass . Really enjoyed this episode :D only 2 weeks left  + Show Spoiler +The fight between Su and Kuvira was fucking awesome. Toph's intermezzo was a bit meh. I expected it to be a little more explosive, like when she was in the throne room and pinned 4 dai-li agents to the ceiling with one move. Something like that, or maybe a huge sudden landslide. not this slow moving elevation. :/
+ Show Spoiler + I don't know, I found Toph's contribution to be the most impressive of all, really. Moving around THAT much earth to take out an entire army yet still having plenty of control to completely avoid hitting her family at all, while being blind...
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+ Show Spoiler +They're making mechas in republic city right? That's pretty cool. Maybe that's the Colossus hinted in one of the titles.
Also Kuvira's standing army at the demo was rather small.
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On December 06 2014 05:20 obesechicken13 wrote:+ Show Spoiler +They're making mechas in republic city right? That's pretty cool. Maybe that's the Colossus hinted in one of the titles.
Also Kuvira's standing army at the demo was rather small.
+ Show Spoiler +Most of the army was still camped outside of Zaofu iirc, only a small contingent was present at the factory
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Are they actually suggesting Kuvira loves Batar? I assumed they were going to have Kuvira reveal she was just using him. We still haven't gotten another expected reveal that the bandits were working for Kuvira, at this point I wonder if we'll get it at all.
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On December 07 2014 03:03 BlackMagister wrote:
Are they actually suggesting Kuvira loves Batar? I assumed they were going to have Kuvira reveal she was just using him. We still haven't gotten another expected reveal that the bandits were working for Kuvira, at this point I wonder if we'll get it at all.
You'll notice she did not say "I love you" back. We had a similar scene in Book 3 with Zaheer and P'Li, and in that case, both characters said it.
I think the lack of her saying so speaks volumes.
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I'm not sure I like the plotline regarding the spirit weapon. There is a very obvious parallel drawn between spirit power and nuclear energy, but in real life there are a lot of uses for nuclear power ranging from producing electricity to radioisotopes for medical uses. Yet the show seems to suggest that any use of spirit energy even for benign uses is very wrong.
It reminds me a bit too much of this: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ScienceIsBad
I think a better take on showing ways to exploit spirits was Unalaq's alliance with Vaatu. The atomic power parallel for this season seems blatant and has some unfortunate implications. And since this is a kids show the writers have to be careful with that, since you don't want your young viewers to randomly become biased against nuclear power plants.
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On December 07 2014 05:16 Grumbels wrote:I'm not sure I like the plotline regarding the spirit weapon. There is a very obvious parallel drawn between spirit power and nuclear energy, but in real life there are a lot of uses for nuclear power ranging from producing electricity to radioisotopes for medical uses. Yet the show seems to suggest that any use of spirit energy even for benign uses is very wrong. It reminds me a bit too much of this: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ScienceIsBadI think a better take on showing ways to exploit spirits was Unalaq's alliance with Vaatu. The atomic power parallel for this season seems blatant and has some unfortunate implications. And since this is a kids show the writers have to be careful with that, since you don't want your young viewers to randomly become biased against nuclear power plants.
I dunno, I think it shows just what the Spirits can actually provide for the human world, if they actually choose to be cooperative and integrate with humans.
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On December 07 2014 05:16 Grumbels wrote:I'm not sure I like the plotline regarding the spirit weapon. There is a very obvious parallel drawn between spirit power and nuclear energy, but in real life there are a lot of uses for nuclear power ranging from producing electricity to radioisotopes for medical uses. Yet the show seems to suggest that any use of spirit energy even for benign uses is very wrong. It reminds me a bit too much of this: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ScienceIsBadI think a better take on showing ways to exploit spirits was Unalaq's alliance with Vaatu. The atomic power parallel for this season seems blatant and has some unfortunate implications. And since this is a kids show the writers have to be careful with that, since you don't want your young viewers to randomly become biased against nuclear power plants.
It doesn't have the same human extinction ending capabilities either.
I'm starting to feel the parallels are coincidental.
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Actually, if you think about it, one of the themes of Korra was that industrialization was making them drift away from their spiritual roots, causing a decrease in the numbers of benders, and overall power.
Is that the future end-game, development in spirit tech to keep up with the inventions and still keep spiritual connection?
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I suppose my interpretation is not the only possible one. Mainly, I'll say that exploitation of spirits is an interesting topic that would not be served by overt parallels with some historical developments because then the framing of the show is no longer independent. Tbh, it would surprise me if Kuvira = Hitler was not in the back of the writers' minds, but I can't be sure of it.
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On December 07 2014 03:03 BlackMagister wrote:
Are they actually suggesting Kuvira loves Batar? I assumed they were going to have Kuvira reveal she was just using him. We still haven't gotten another expected reveal that the bandits were working for Kuvira, at this point I wonder if we'll get it at all.
well next episode is called + Show Spoiler +"kuvira's gambit" and we know what happened to P'Li after she told Zaheer she loved him...
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On December 07 2014 06:30 Grumbels wrote:
Tbh, it would surprise me if Kuvira = Hitler was not in the back of the writers' minds, but I can't be sure of it.
It absolutely is. She's sending dissenters to camps, her goons uniforms are almost identical to the bad guys in Jin-Roh, who in turn are heavily based on the Nazis, and the spirit cannon is obviously based on the Schwerer Gustav railway gun.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schwerer_Gustav#Dora
pic of Schwerer Gustav
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On December 07 2014 07:28 Millitron wrote:Show nested quote +On December 07 2014 06:30 Grumbels wrote:
Tbh, it would surprise me if Kuvira = Hitler was not in the back of the writers' minds, but I can't be sure of it. It absolutely is. She's sending dissenters to camps, her goons uniforms are almost identical to the bad guys in Jin-Roh, who in turn are heavily based on the Nazis, and the spirit cannon is obviously based on the Schwerer Gustav railway gun. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schwerer_Gustav#Dorapic of Schwerer Gustav + Show Spoiler +
Dissenter prison camps weren't a German exclusive thing, just saying.
US and Canada were pretty shitty about it too.
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On December 07 2014 07:34 WolfintheSheep wrote:Show nested quote +On December 07 2014 07:28 Millitron wrote:On December 07 2014 06:30 Grumbels wrote:
Tbh, it would surprise me if Kuvira = Hitler was not in the back of the writers' minds, but I can't be sure of it. It absolutely is. She's sending dissenters to camps, her goons uniforms are almost identical to the bad guys in Jin-Roh, who in turn are heavily based on the Nazis, and the spirit cannon is obviously based on the Schwerer Gustav railway gun. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schwerer_Gustav#Dorapic of Schwerer Gustav + Show Spoiler + Dissenter prison camps weren't a German exclusive thing, just saying. US and Canada were pretty shitty about it too.
Nobody talks about them though. When you hear "prison camp" the first thing to come to mind is probably the Nazis.
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On December 07 2014 07:55 Millitron wrote:Show nested quote +On December 07 2014 07:34 WolfintheSheep wrote:On December 07 2014 07:28 Millitron wrote:On December 07 2014 06:30 Grumbels wrote:
Tbh, it would surprise me if Kuvira = Hitler was not in the back of the writers' minds, but I can't be sure of it. It absolutely is. She's sending dissenters to camps, her goons uniforms are almost identical to the bad guys in Jin-Roh, who in turn are heavily based on the Nazis, and the spirit cannon is obviously based on the Schwerer Gustav railway gun. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schwerer_Gustav#Dorapic of Schwerer Gustav + Show Spoiler + Dissenter prison camps weren't a German exclusive thing, just saying. US and Canada were pretty shitty about it too. Nobody talks about them though. When you hear "prison camp" the first thing to come to mind is probably the Nazis.
Well, history written by the winners, after all.
Honestly, anyone drawing Hitler parallels is basically pulling from a very narrow reference pool, or thinks every tyrant must be Hitler. History's littered with military leaders pulling nation wide coups, and then becoming brutal dictators. Hitler wasn't one of them.
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Personally, when overthrowing the monarchy and declaring oneself emperor is concerned, the first person to come to mind is Napoleon.
Kuvira is far less brutal than Hitler (less extermination by race, village burning etc), though technologically it would be the more obvious comparison.
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In before Korra bends the spirit weapon in some way shape or form. Rava didn't say she was most powerful in the spirit world and could bend energy for nothing.
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On December 07 2014 08:30 Plansix wrote:
In before Korra bends the spirit weapon in some way shape or form. Rava didn't say she was most powerful in the spirit world and could bend energy for nothing.
I don't think Raava ever said this, but Zaheer said he believed her power was limitless. Cue corny power of light and friendship where she holds hands with Mako and Bolin and Asami to fire a stronger beam.
Some people see Kuvira as borrowing elements of Maosauce. Her crimes are mostly so far against her own people, and it's starting to sound like republic city is Hong Kong.
That's not to say the uniforms and cannon are not reminiscent of Nazi Germany. She just has inspirations from more than one source.
I don't think the spirit laser is anything near the power of even our world's first nukes.
I always thought the fire Nation during the hundred years war was like Japan during WW2. Though I don't think it wasn't them that wiped out the air nation.
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