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I'd put Iroh over Azula if we're talking about everyone in their primes on their respective shows. Eg. Zuko from TLA, and Azula before she went crazy. You gave them an A- so they're the same I guess.
On December 05 2014 07:38 iseefor wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2014 06:10 parkufarku wrote:
This is my personal list of Power Rankings for TLA and TLK characters. Avatar-state is not included.
Wind-bender:
A Aang (No-Avatar State)
A- Zaheer
B+ Tenzin
B- Kai / Jinora
Fire-bender:
A Ozai
A- Azula
A- Iroh
A- P'Li
B+ Creepy Combustion Man
B Zuko
B- Mako
Water-bender
A Amon
A- Ming-Hua
A- Katara
A- Yakone
B+ Unalag (Non-Avatar State)
B Tarrlok
B Evil Twins
B Tonraq
B Korra (Non-Avatar State)
Earth-Bender (Metal-Bender)
A Toph
A- Kuvira
A- Ghazan
B Suyin
B Lin
B Bolin
Reason why Korra is so low is because she's a very weak bender without the Avatar State. She has lost to every villain without it.
Bolin is B instead of B- because his fire-bending has lava-bending
over all i would have to agree with you here but i'm curious as to why Bolin is as far down as he is? he is one of 2 (known) lava benders and was rather good as a professional bender. but at the same time there are a lot of really good earth benders.. and people like Suyin who we don't truly see them show off how good they are. it's just implied.
Bolin's lavabending is pretty mediocre. He doesn't have anyone to teach him so he can only copy Ghazan. He should find someone.
Then I'd move Tenzin over Zaheer, even after Zaheer learned to fly.
The combustion benders were both pretty strong too. I thought P'li was the strongest of the 4 red lotus members and combustion man would often fight Aang and his group alone, and still do alright. Sokka just had a 360 no scope aim bot. Without that lucky shot it's not certain the entire gang would be able to beat him before he destroyed the temple. He at least deserves an A- since the gang never tried to fight him, but instead ran each time.
And it's definitely not fair to put Korra below Bolin or Mako in ranking. She could at least fight off Amon or Unalaq from a distance. nvm I see you're saying she's just a shoddy waterbender. She can still resist Amon's bloodbending somehow even without waterbending.
Yakone got an entire courtroom without moving his hands. I'd put him above Amon.
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On December 05 2014 07:40 Birdie wrote:
Firebending list with no Jeong Jeong is no firebending list at all O_O
IMO placing Bolin, Mako, Kai and some of the others there is a bit silly, sure they're main characters and all but they aren't that impressive firebenders. Perhaps among the better ones in the world but not top tier really.
That's why they are placed with a low grade 
On December 05 2014 07:38 iseefor wrote:
over all i would have to agree with you here but i'm curious as to why Bolin is as far down as he is? he is one of 2 (known) lava benders and was rather good as a professional bender.
but at the same time there are a lot of really good earth benders.. and people like Suyin who we don't truly see them show off how good they are. it's just implied.
Bolin is far down because, like Mako and Korra, he's not an exceptional bender or fighter. It took both Mako and Bolin to fight off that lava dude.
Well we know Suyin is as strong as Lin, (if not just a tad bit stronger) since they fought, and we also know Toph say that her daughters didn't get a good grasp on bending, and Suyin got caught by Kuvira's army, Suyin & Lin could barely win against P'Li, etc. There's a lot of times where she fought, if she was stronger, she would've won.
On December 05 2014 06:26 Grumbels wrote:
Are you counting Aang's potential skill later in his life or just his peak in the fight vs Ozai? And I never felt that Aang was superior to Azula just counting airbending, he needed to use other elements to get an advantage vs her. And are you taking Azula's agility into account or just her bending skills? (for instance, Tenzin is not at his physical peak right now) And Amon has the benefit of bloodbending skills (which are super imba), but is there that much evidence he's an A level waterbender besides this?
I'm trying to analyze based on not only what we saw, but respective power levels of people weaker than him, and his reputation, etc. We also saw older Aang's fight with Yakone. Tenzin showed himself to be a great fighter, and I can't see Tenzin being equal or stronger than his father.
You might have a point on Azula being a better bender at the point we saw them, but it's hard to justify an A- for Aang because it's Aang and he was almost able to take out Ozai (if he chose to redirect lightning). Plus, we know that Aang never fights to kill, so his fighting potential isn't really max when we see him.
Amon is an A level bender because of Blood-bending, otherwise, I would've probably put him as A-
And I did take Azula's agility into account, but I can't place her higher or equal than Ozai, because if she was, she would've probably just taken the throne over him in the first place.
On December 05 2014 07:11 Koerage wrote:
I'd personally never put Ozai over Iroh, but that might be because we never really saw Ozai without the comet so we dont know how powerful he was. Also not sure if Kai's on the same level of bending as Jinora, really doubt that. But it's your personal list
also, regarding Amon's regular waterbending, it was implied only strong waterbenders could bloodbend so one can assume he has decent bending there. He did create a nice waterspout when korra knocked him into the air and he didnt seem to take much effort creating it - he seemed a decently powerful "regular" waterbender as well
I put Ozai over Iroh for two reasons. 1, when we saw Iroh, he was old and never showed us much powers, so unless he proved he was an exceptional bender, I can't justify putting him over Ozai. 2, if Iroh WAS stronger than Ozai, maybe Iroh would've cleaned up the world without Avatar's involvement. He chose not to, but it just doesn't seem like he had the power to do that.
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On December 05 2014 11:17 rebdomine wrote:
Wouldn't Azula be on par with Ozai? She after all has been shown to be capable of using her firebending to fly (albeit in short bursts) even without comet enhancement, and even shooting lightning out after doing so. Even Ozai himself grew scared of Azula's ambition and firebending prowess.
If Azula didn't go insane, I would think there was no way Zuko would have ever beat her during that comet Agni Kai fight.
Like I said up there, it's speculative since we haven't seen enough of both of them. But it's hard to believe an on-par Azula be a subordinate for Ozai
On December 05 2014 11:06 ]343[ wrote:
I mostly agree with the rankings, though Tenzin definitely wrecked Zaheer 1v1
I'm not sure about that. They were very close, I admit, but Zaheer mastered the art of flying and depriving-oxygen move. Ok, i just watched their fight clip, and although Zaheer was running away, Tenzin did come out on top. I guess I could upgrade Tenzin's rank by a notch, but I wouldn't put Tenzin over Zaheer, simply b/c Zaheer's oxygen skill is just broken.
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On December 05 2014 13:13 parkufarku wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2014 11:17 rebdomine wrote:
Wouldn't Azula be on par with Ozai? She after all has been shown to be capable of using her firebending to fly (albeit in short bursts) even without comet enhancement, and even shooting lightning out after doing so. Even Ozai himself grew scared of Azula's ambition and firebending prowess.
If Azula didn't go insane, I would think there was no way Zuko would have ever beat her during that comet Agni Kai fight. Like I said up there, it's speculative since we haven't seen enough of both of them. But it's hard to believe an on-par Azula be a subordinate for Ozai
Azula was basically daddy's little girl (she had some big parent issues in general). Ozai was really the only person in the world that she wouldn't stab in the back.
On December 05 2014 13:13 parkufarku wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2014 11:06 ]343[ wrote:
I mostly agree with the rankings, though Tenzin definitely wrecked Zaheer 1v1 I'm not sure about that. They were very close, I admit, but Zaheer mastered the art of flying and depriving-oxygen move. Ok, i just watched their fight clip, and although Zaheer was running away, Tenzin did come out on top. I guess I could upgrade Tenzin's rank by a notch, but I wouldn't put Tenzin over Zaheer, simply b/c Zaheer's oxygen skill is just broken.
Zaheer's breath-sucking power is still just airbending, albeit used more offensively than the much more buddhist Air Acolytes. He never uses it on a moving opponent either, only the Earth Queen who's a physical wimp, and Korra only after the poison started to seriously kick in. Doesn't really seem that strong except for stationary executions, because he's basically just creating a vacuum around a small area...that most people can move out of.
The flight thing is definitely a big deal, but it doesn't do as much when someone with experience, like Tenzin, just outmatches all of his attacks.
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Tenzin could definitely also use the suffocating move, he just doesn't use it because principles. And being spiritually enlightened does not make you a better bender per se. He's just freed himself from the Earth's shackles.
Tenzin completely destroyed Zahir in the fight and it took all 4 members to bring him down. You give too little credit just because of his belief system.
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I think that Zaheer with flight is definitely stronger than Tenzin. That gives him a tremendous boost to speed and evasiveness, two of the main skills of airbenders. He wasn't really fast enough to keep up with Tenzin, but with effortless flight that instantly changes.
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plus normal airbending evasion makes use of airbending like pusing urself off the ground, twirling which has to take some focus away from whoever ur fighting and zaheer can just go all out offensive airbending while just flying around thats some kinda of advatange but it think their still pretty even cause tenzin went super badass in that fight
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Basically comparing a more youthful and talented fighter with little experience to someone older with decades of experience. End of the day, the more experienced Tenzen won quite easily just because Zaheer was just that new to airbending.
Like throwing someone who only started throwing punches, against someone who's practised martial arts for decades. With that kind of gap, natural talent and physical capability just aren't a factor anymore.
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For politeness episode 10 spoilers 
+ Show Spoiler +Great episode, we find out who Lin's dad is and as expected it was... Konto or something. Awesome fight scene at the end with su/kuviera and of course Toph taking down that whole army was badass . Really enjoyed this episode :D only 2 weeks left 
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waiting for a 720p version or watching it in 320p, the struggles are real
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On December 05 2014 17:40 blade55555 wrote:For politeness episode 10 spoilers + Show Spoiler +Great episode, we find out who Lin's dad is and as expected it was... Konto or something. Awesome fight scene at the end with su/kuviera and of course Toph taking down that whole army was badass . Really enjoyed this episode :D only 2 weeks left
+ Show Spoiler +The fight between Su and Kuvira was fucking awesome. Toph's intermezzo was a bit meh. I expected it to be a little more explosive, like when she was in the throne room and pinned 4 dai-li agents to the ceiling with one move. Something like that, or maybe a huge sudden landslide. not this slow moving elevation. :/
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+ Show Spoiler +Well, they basically ruled out the possibility of Toph, Katara, and Zuko playing an active part. Kinda unfortunate but I guess they've played their part well enough.
Su vs Kuvira was a pretty awesome fight. Pretty one-sided though.
Kuvira looked pretty upset about Toph criticizing her.
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On December 05 2014 23:30 LegalLord wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Well, they basically ruled out the possibility of Toph, Katara, and Zuko playing an active part. Kinda unfortunate but I guess they've played their part well enough.
Su vs Kuvira was a pretty awesome fight. Pretty one-sided though.
Kuvira looked pretty upset about Toph criticizing her.
+ Show Spoiler +It's good that they provide explanations for the questions. God so much fan service :D
Like how people think Korra is the worst avatar and how she hates herself.
Lin's dad.
Why Katara didn't help with the civil war in the south.
Toph not having to fight Kuvira.
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+ Show Spoiler +damm that fight su vs kuvira fight was one of the best so far in the show. anyway I wonder how their going to deal with the giant cannon without any spirtes.
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Really cool episode.
+ Show Spoiler +Oddly, I found myself not liking Toph so much anymore. I'm glad she came around with a bit of redemption at the end, but this seriously suggests she lived the majority of her life not thinking about anyone else, and being absolutely "whatever" about pretty much everything in life.
The fight between Su and Kuvira was really fast-paced and cool, loved it. Kuvira did have the edge though. Her bending style seems really creative.
Not much Korra this episode, I was surprised. Not boding too well either, with the spirits rejecting her. Really looking forward to how that's going to turn out. My guess is, they will get involved eventually. We might get to see a spirit we've already seen. Perhaps Raava will intervene somehow? Maybe Hei Bai?
Why did you guys say two weeks? There's three more episodes. Are the last two episodes being aired at once?
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I wanted Toph to really show off her metal bending not just her earth bending. Like I wanted her to just point her finger at the cannon and have it crumple. Like, imagine if they were going to surprise attack Republic City, but then Toph balled up their cannon like a piece of paper--now you have your two week delay and Toph got to be a badass without having to actually fight.
Su v Kuvira was absolute nut balls!
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yeah last two air at once.
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On December 06 2014 02:11 Warri wrote:
yeah last two air at once.
Thank God, I'll just wait till then and binge watch. It will make the filler episodes so much easier.
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I absolutely loved Su's one move , you know which one i'm talking about. That was so fucking sexy. Hint: + Show Spoiler +it was the armor incasing
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On December 06 2014 01:34 Spaylz wrote:Really cool episode. + Show Spoiler +Oddly, I found myself not liking Toph so much anymore. I'm glad she came around with a bit of redemption at the end, but this seriously suggests she lived the majority of her life not thinking about anyone else, and being absolutely "whatever" about pretty much everything in life.
The fight between Su and Kuvira was really fast-paced and cool, loved it. Kuvira did have the edge though. Her bending style seems really creative.
Not much Korra this episode, I was surprised. Not boding too well either, with the spirits rejecting her. Really looking forward to how that's going to turn out. My guess is, they will get involved eventually. We might get to see a spirit we've already seen. Perhaps Raava will intervene somehow? Maybe Hei Bai? Why did you guys say two weeks? There's three more episodes. Are the last two episodes being aired at once?
+ Show Spoiler +That's how Toph always has been. The reason why so many of us like her is because of her carefree-idgaf attitude, but at the same time, she deeply cares for her family / friends, she just doesn't show it easily.
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