[TV] The Legend of Korra - Page 253

On December 07 2014 08:56 obesechicken13 wrote:

I don't think Raava ever said this, but Zaheer said he believed her power was limitless. Cue corny power of light and friendship where she holds hands with Mako and Bolin and Asami to fire a stronger beam.

On December 07 2014 09:23 Warri wrote:


What? Korra said "but im power less in the spirit world" and raava replied "you are most powerful in the spirit world".

On December 07 2014 08:11 WolfintheSheep wrote:

Well, history written by the winners, after all.

Honestly, anyone drawing Hitler parallels is basically pulling from a very narrow reference pool, or thinks every tyrant must be Hitler. History's littered with military leaders pulling nation wide coups, and then becoming brutal dictators. Hitler wasn't one of them.

On December 07 2014 10:29 Takuma wrote:


What are you, some sort of bullshit left wing liberal arts graduate? Go get a job. It's clear that Hitler is the obvious comparison intended. The writers of Korra didn't take level 400 comparative political theory and research methodologies at UCL.

On December 07 2014 10:29 Takuma wrote:


What are you, some sort of bullshit left wing liberal arts graduate? Go get a job. It's clear that Hitler is the obvious comparison intended. The writers of Korra didn't take level 400 comparative political theory and research methodologies at UCL.

On December 07 2014 11:20 WolfintheSheep wrote:

Lol, wtf? Apparently liberal arts has something to do with basic history. And I guess you have to be left wing to know about tyrants that weren't named Hitler.

If all you know about is WW2 dictators, then even Stalin is a much closer comparison. Originally allied with democratic nations, betrays them once they have enough standing power of their own, takes control of independent regions and eclipses them under a newly named banner and declares total sovereignty over them, scares off any outside intervention with super weapons.

Of course, Kuvira was backed and armed by Republic City with the express purpose of regaining control, which is much more akin to Afghanistan, or several African nations.

But fuck it, all tyrants are Hitler. Heil.

On December 07 2014 12:40 Millitron wrote:

The big reason I'm so sure that they're going for a Hitler parallel is the design of all of her stuff. Her goons wear stahlhelms, her flag has the whole iron cross thing going on, and the spirit cannon is obviously based on the Schwerer Gustav. Yes, there were other dictators who sent dissenters to camps, yes every modern dictator has sought new weapon technology, yes other dictators started wars and betrayed allies too. But they didn't do it in stahlhelms or with stupidly large railway guns.

On December 07 2014 11:31 Spaylz wrote:


What is up with you, man? Every time you post here you verbally assault someone.

Can't you just discuss things in a normal manner without having to insult whoever you're talking to? It's kind of sad to see you attack so many people for no reason.

On December 07 2014 13:20 WolfintheSheep wrote:


Except there's also a giant wall to prevent anyone from leaving/entering Earth Nation land, and the already mentioned super weapons used as an ultimate deterrent, plus the annexed territories are forced to become part of the industrial work force under the guise of prosperity for everyone, which is far more USSR than Nazi Germany. So there's just as many Cold War references as there are Nazi.

...Not to mention that the metalbenders were explicitly said to be designed after Star Wars Stormtroopers, and one of the focal points of the story is a giant laser cannon...

Kuvira's regime references a lot of things. I don't think you can call it a Hitler "parallel" until the themes actually start running parallel. Like, you know, total ethnic cleansing, earthbender superiority, and actual invasion of neighbouring countries...

On December 07 2014 14:26 Millitron wrote:

I thought only Ba Sing Se had walls around it?

And the stormtroopers were modeled after the Germans in WW2. The Germans literally coined the term "stormtrooper". Did you look at the photo of the Schwerer Gustav I posted earlier? The spirit cannon is clearly supposed to look like it. When did Kuvira say she wanted to use the cannon as a deterrent? She explicitly said she wanted to attack Republic City with it. Kinda like how Hitler wanted to nuke New York City with his "Amerika Bomber". More generally, it's reminiscent of all of the "wunderwaffen" the Germans wasted so much time with, like the V1 and V2 missiles, the V3 cannon, all the stupid gigantic tanks that they wanted to build like the Landkreuzer and the Maus.

Last, you have to remember the demographic the show is made for. It's made for 11-13 year olds in the US. How many of them know anything about Stalin? But its a safe bet 90% know a little about Hitler.

On December 07 2014 13:36 Takuma wrote:


Because some holier than thou dickwad somehow thinks that the writers of Korra are trying to be all subtle and clever by making Kuvira have her troops do shit like "all heil the great uniter" and that somehow instead of being a reference to Nazi Germany this is some sort of bullshit hidden subtle reference to Afghanastan or Russia or the USA or some tribal African nations and that everyone else who can clearly see the parallels between her and Hitler are somehow "pulling from a narrow reference pool" despite the fact that culturally and popularly Hitler is the most obvious comparison. Jesus fucking Christ.

On December 07 2014 18:03 Birdie wrote:

That doesn't answer his question. Why are you so aggressive when you reply, instead of politely telling people that they're over-thinking it?

On December 07 2014 11:31 Spaylz wrote:


What is up with you, man? Every time you post here you verbally assault someone.

Can't you just discuss things in a normal manner without having to insult whoever you're talking to? It's kind of sad to see you attack so many people for no reason.

On December 07 2014 19:57 sabas123 wrote:

nope, they only will release the last 2 together

On December 07 2014 19:48 malcram wrote:


he's just a trolling keyboard warrior. just report and ignore him.

anyway, 3 episodes left. kinda hoping they'd release the last 3 episodes together

On December 07 2014 09:23 Warri wrote:


What? Korra said "but im power less in the spirit world" and raava replied "you are most powerful in the spirit world".

On December 07 2014 14:48 WolfintheSheep wrote:
They said in a panel that the metalbender design was supposed to be like Stormtroopers: http://screenrant.com/legend-korra-season-4-episode-2-description-nycc-panel/

The wall went around the whole Earth Nation, or at least enough that Bolin and Varrick had to fake their way through a checkpoint instead just...you know, walking around the wall. But it's not like the Berlin Wall extended across Eastern Europe anyway.

The cannon definitely looks like that German cannon. Thematically it's a nuke. And functionally it's basically a Death Star put in Avatarverse scale (hell, the setup for the last episode was fairly New Hope-ish).

And really, if you want to talk about a Chinese dictator with a cult of personality and an isolationist policy who forces mass industrialization, the obvious reference would be Mao.

Not everything has to be an allegory. She's a dictator that fits into the storyline and the Avatarverse, and there's a lot of references, just like Avatar has always had. Doesn't mean she has to represent one single person.