on the lightning bending thing, all the police can metalbend now, which used to be pretty much toph's gig only, even bumi couldn't do it.
Also we have a pair of brothers where one can firebend and one can earthbend, which runs somewhat contrary to the nation-based identities of benders previously. Are these guys earth nation, fire nation, or 'ferals' like the hillbillies from the last season, or (most likely) simply the produce of a fire-earth nation couple, which in itself is an interesting avenue we will no doubt follow down sometime during the series.
There's a tendency in fantasy to have the arcane be static- all figured out as far as what it can and can't do from the start. I really like this idea of the bending energy just being like any other energy, that people figure out more and more ways of using as time goes on, and what was once seen as godlike or incredible is just par for the course these days (kind of like when people figured out hotkeys were good in starcraft and were gods for a time :p)
You can't watch it from Australia (and I'm sure a lot of other countries) though, so people from other countries (like me) have to get it through other sources .
Definitely loving the Tesla Trooper guys. You know, the one with the stun batons?
Anyways, does anyone else think the Equalists aren't the villains? The first scuffle Korra had with the guy shouting propaganda really made them look like the good guys. So did Amon taking away those criminals' bending.
im pretty sure they are going to be the main antagonists. they've already made every other possible antagonists so far look like fools. not really sure what else can give the avatar a challenge at this point
I think they will be the main antagonists. They may be taking care of the evil benders, but they're also getting rid of good benders as well. In essence, they believe in peace through removal, korra believes in peace through powers, opposites
Definitely loving the Tesla Trooper guys. You know, the one with the stun batons?
Anyways, does anyone else think the Equalists aren't the villains? The first scuffle Korra had with the guy shouting propaganda really made them look like the good guys. So did Amon taking away those criminals' bending.
im pretty sure they are going to be the main antagonists. they've already made every other possible antagonists so far look like fools. not really sure what else can give the avatar a challenge at this point
I think they will be the main antagonists. They may be taking care of the evil benders, but they're also getting rid of good benders as well. In essence, they believe in peace through removal, korra believes in peace through powers, opposites
I agree they'll be the main antagonists, but that doesn't mean they're villains. Anyways, it reminds me of the gun-rights debate. The only difference is that bending, this universe's "guns", is something you either have or don't. You can't go out and buy bending. A big reason I'm in favor of gun rights is that they keep everyone equal. "The Declaration of Independence says all men are created equal, but Samuel Colt made it so." There are only two ways there can be equality. If everyone has power, or if no one does. Guns provide equality by giving everyone power; the Equalists want to provide equality by taking everyone's power away. I suspect Amon has some ulterior motive, and that he doesn't actually care about equality, though. I hope I didn't just de-rail the thread by bringing up guns :\
Definitely loving the Tesla Trooper guys. You know, the one with the stun batons?
Anyways, does anyone else think the Equalists aren't the villains? The first scuffle Korra had with the guy shouting propaganda really made them look like the good guys. So did Amon taking away those criminals' bending.
im pretty sure they are going to be the main antagonists. they've already made every other possible antagonists so far look like fools. not really sure what else can give the avatar a challenge at this point
I think they will be the main antagonists. They may be taking care of the evil benders, but they're also getting rid of good benders as well. In essence, they believe in peace through removal, korra believes in peace through powers, opposites
I agree they'll be the main antagonists, but that doesn't mean they're villains. Anyways, it reminds me of the gun-rights debate. The only difference is that bending, this universe's "guns", is something you either have or don't. You can't go out and buy bending. A big reason I'm in favor of gun rights is that they keep everyone equal. "The Declaration of Independence says all men are created equal, but Samuel Colt made it so." There are only two ways there can be equality. If everyone has power, or if no one does. Guns provide equality by giving everyone power; the Equalists want to provide equality by taking everyone's power away. I suspect Amon has some ulterior motive, and that he doesn't actually care about equality, though. I hope I didn't just de-rail the thread by bringing up guns :\
I think your comparison with arms control is a very good one, I don't believe that they wished to portray Amon as truly evil much like the real life gun control debate no one one either side wants malice both are trying to save lives and protect freedoms its just the disagreement of how to do so that provides the wonderful clash that provides more then a black and white story.
I have not seen the second LoK yet, but I have seen the first. I was so stoked. It was the best thing to happen so far in TV (for me) since the starting of the Walking Dead. The first episode would have been PG-13 if there was any blood, in my opinion. Those fight scenes were gnarly.
On April 22 2012 09:58 Thereisnosaurus wrote: on the lightning bending thing, all the police can metalbend now, which used to be pretty much toph's gig only, even bumi couldn't do it.
Also we have a pair of brothers where one can firebend and one can earthbend, which runs somewhat contrary to the nation-based identities of benders previously. Are these guys earth nation, fire nation, or 'ferals' like the hillbillies from the last season, or (most likely) simply the produce of a fire-earth nation couple, which in itself is an interesting avenue we will no doubt follow down sometime during the series.
There's a tendency in fantasy to have the arcane be static- all figured out as far as what it can and can't do from the start. I really like this idea of the bending energy just being like any other energy, that people figure out more and more ways of using as time goes on, and what was once seen as godlike or incredible is just par for the course these days (kind of like when people figured out hotkeys were good in starcraft and were gods for a time :p)
The multiple benders in a family is the result of mixed nation marriage and birthing. Apparently since a person can only be one, if you have one parent that is one thing and another parent that is another, you end up one or the other (or neither for non benders).
On April 22 2012 09:58 Thereisnosaurus wrote: on the lightning bending thing, all the police can metalbend now, which used to be pretty much toph's gig only, even bumi couldn't do it.
Also we have a pair of brothers where one can firebend and one can earthbend, which runs somewhat contrary to the nation-based identities of benders previously. Are these guys earth nation, fire nation, or 'ferals' like the hillbillies from the last season, or (most likely) simply the produce of a fire-earth nation couple, which in itself is an interesting avenue we will no doubt follow down sometime during the series.
There's a tendency in fantasy to have the arcane be static- all figured out as far as what it can and can't do from the start. I really like this idea of the bending energy just being like any other energy, that people figure out more and more ways of using as time goes on, and what was once seen as godlike or incredible is just par for the course these days (kind of like when people figured out hotkeys were good in starcraft and were gods for a time :p)
I was thinking a lot of the same things. It's neat to see how lightning and metal bending were just being figured out in A:TLA, but they've now become more common practices in LoK (a progression that is actually pretty realistic). Maybe that's even what is happening with spirit-bending.
I think that Bolin and Mako have mixed-nation parents. LoK seems to be straying away a bit from the whole idea of "nations," as can clearly be seen in Republic City, a big melting pot of all different types of bending.
Definitely loving the Tesla Trooper guys. You know, the one with the stun batons?
Anyways, does anyone else think the Equalists aren't the villains? The first scuffle Korra had with the guy shouting propaganda really made them look like the good guys. So did Amon taking away those criminals' bending.
im pretty sure they are going to be the main antagonists. they've already made every other possible antagonists so far look like fools. not really sure what else can give the avatar a challenge at this point
I think they will be the main antagonists. They may be taking care of the evil benders, but they're also getting rid of good benders as well. In essence, they believe in peace through removal, korra believes in peace through powers, opposites
I agree they'll be the main antagonists, but that doesn't mean they're villains. Anyways, it reminds me of the gun-rights debate. The only difference is that bending, this universe's "guns", is something you either have or don't. You can't go out and buy bending. A big reason I'm in favor of gun rights is that they keep everyone equal. "The Declaration of Independence says all men are created equal, but Samuel Colt made it so." There are only two ways there can be equality. If everyone has power, or if no one does. Guns provide equality by giving everyone power; the Equalists want to provide equality by taking everyone's power away. I suspect Amon has some ulterior motive, and that he doesn't actually care about equality, though. I hope I didn't just de-rail the thread by bringing up guns :\
I think your comparison with arms control is a very good one, I don't believe that they wished to portray Amon as truly evil much like the real life gun control debate no one one either side wants malice both are trying to save lives and protect freedoms its just the disagreement of how to do so that provides the wonderful clash that provides more then a black and white story.
I feel like Amon has been set up to be the main villain. It feels as though he has ulterior motives for creating the Equalist movement (I doubt he really gives a damn about the average protestor), and his little demonstration of him forcefully removing the benders' abilities was pretty merciless. However, that isn't to say the Equalists on a whole are all bad; hopefully they'll have a number of sympathetic pro-Equalist characters to round the cast out more like they ended up doing with Zuko and Iroh, and even the kids at the Fire Nation school.
Yeah I don't really like how rushed they are in developing a story plot this time around. A lot of the things they're doing seem like a bit of a fanservice. + Show Spoiler +
Like we couldn't have zuko and katara be a thing so instead now we have Makorra... Korama?+ Show Spoiler +
. They explained the villain's entire backstory and haven't really let it be known if the team has collected 30000 yuons yet.
I also don't like how weak Korra is right now. She's nearly a fully realized Avatar damn it... When Aang mastered Earthbending he fought through the entire Earth Kingdom Palace. I guess it's just a progression of difficulty. Like when things first appear they seem really strong but as the anime develops/their numbers increase they get progressively weaker.
I kinda feel like Mako and Korra will get in a relationship but they'll have their own problems. I like the idea of the story having drama, but at the same time it's a kids show and it probably won't show too much.
Also curious if there's gonna be a love triangle between Bolin and Mako and Korra. I might be reading too much into the possibilities.
On April 22 2012 09:58 Thereisnosaurus wrote: on the lightning bending thing, all the police can metalbend now, which used to be pretty much toph's gig only, even bumi couldn't do it.
Also we have a pair of brothers where one can firebend and one can earthbend, which runs somewhat contrary to the nation-based identities of benders previously. Are these guys earth nation, fire nation, or 'ferals' like the hillbillies from the last season, or (most likely) simply the produce of a fire-earth nation couple, which in itself is an interesting avenue we will no doubt follow down sometime during the series.
There's a tendency in fantasy to have the arcane be static- all figured out as far as what it can and can't do from the start. I really like this idea of the bending energy just being like any other energy, that people figure out more and more ways of using as time goes on, and what was once seen as godlike or incredible is just par for the course these days (kind of like when people figured out hotkeys were good in starcraft and were gods for a time :p)
I was thinking a lot of the same things. It's neat to see how lightning and metal bending were just being figured out in A:TLA, but they've now become more common practices in LoK (a progression that is actually pretty realistic). Maybe that's even what is happening with spirit-bending.
I think that Bolin and Mako have mixed-nation parents. LoK seems to be straying away a bit from the whole idea of "nations," as can clearly be seen in Republic City, a big melting pot of all different types of bending.
Agreed on the lightning thing...if you rememeber it was considered incredibly dangerous untill Iroh figured out a defense for it which is probably the main reason it expanded to other 'normal' fire benders in the first place. Plus 70 years of perfecting probably didn't hurt either.
also take note that the lightning re-directing thing that Iroh knew was learned from him watching water-benders. Which means one nation's philosophy/techniques helped inhance another. I find that interesting consdering now all 4 (sorta) nations are joined together in one city so there is a lot of exchanging of ideas and stuff which may result in more bending techniques we havent seen yet (ex. waterbenders bending Ice in an earthbending style maybe?). (Also $10 says the moment we see a Republic City Hospital there will be blood benders clearing ateries and shit =p)
I honestly wouldn't be surprised if he was simply being either tricked or controled by an evil spirit (please be Koh or have him invoved) since he openly mentions comuning with them. That story he said about the fire-bender that killed his father could probably be true and that grief lead him to the 'dark side' of the spirit world. I really doubt he is the be-all, end-all villian of this series if they introduced him this early (considering i dont think we saw Fire-Lord Ozai fully until like late season 2 or even 3). But who knows.
The thing is aside of the gangs we havent really seen any "benders opressing non-benders thing. Althou i completly understand the tention. Before all the loyalties were within the 4 nations, even allied nations would feel less bender v nonbender and more our nation vs their nation. Now that the 4 are united it makes perfect sence that this new conflict would happen.[
I think it kind of made sense that Korra is pretty weak right now and loses to those equalist mooks. Her training was in a time of peace so she doesnt have nearly as much real fighting experience as Aang did, so you cant really compare. Also those chi blockers were pretty sick and they pretty much hardcounter her with the whole shutting down bending and stuff. She will probably get strong enough to take them on, but it is nice to have strong enemies in the show, instead of a bunch of faceless goons to mow down.
I honestly wouldn't be surprised if he was simply being either tricked or controled by an evil spirit (please be Koh or have him invoved) since he openly mentions comuning with them. That story he said about the fire-bender that killed his father could probably be true and that grief lead him to the 'dark side' of the spirit world. I really doubt he is the be-all, end-all villian of this series if they introduced him this early (considering i dont think we saw Fire-Lord Ozai fully until like late season 2 or even 3). But who knows.
The thing is aside of the gangs we havent really seen any "benders opressing non-benders thing. Althou i completly understand the tention. Before all the loyalties were within the 4 nations, even allied nations would feel less bender v nonbender and more our nation vs their nation. Now that the 4 are united it makes perfect sence that this new conflict would happen.[
Koh would be amazing. I hadn't even thought of that being a possible reason for him wearing mask.
It seems to me though that he is an energy bender, the way he placed his hands on the guy to take away his bending was really reminiscent of what Aang did to Ozai.
if you can take someones bending away could you bend , bending into someone else?
Like make a bunch of avatars for instance? (not that they would have the spirit ties with the avatar or what not, but being able to bend all 4 elements)
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