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Mazaire
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia217 Posts
April 23 2012 03:41 GMT
#481
/drool this series has been sooo good
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ClysmiC
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2192 Posts
April 23 2012 03:44 GMT
#482
On April 23 2012 09:39 Etrnity wrote:
Just a note of clarification, are we supposed to put new updates and thoughts into spoilers, or is the thread already assumed to be filled with spoilers? I don't mind using spoilers, but it gets a little inconvenient when there are many lines of quotes.

No need for spoilers. This thread is for people who have seen all 3 seasons of A:TLA and all of the current episodes of LoK.
The only time spoilers were necessary is when the first 2 episodes were leaked before their official release date.
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
April 23 2012 03:46 GMT
#483
I find it interesting people think that because Korra's only missing element is air that there's nowhere for the series to go. A bit of imagination people, come on! =P

It's good they aren't just going to stick to a formula every time (hi Pokemon) but are hoping to explore some variety in story. So far I have to say it's to great effect with the strong female lead, a set environment and more mature themes. I'm really enjoying this season so far.

Re: Amon's identity. I don't think it's a "thing", but rather his scar story is true and he might personally feel his face must be hidden. I agree with the expectation that he is a bender, because Aang's ability was to bend the ability to bend which appeared to rely upon understanding bending. Of course this was taught to him by a mystical creature who appears to be linked with the spirit world. Regardless I like the Koh talk and I really do hope the spirit world is explored more this season.

I also like that they haven't flat out revealed everything in the first episode in some verbal diarrhoea. Like the current status of Zuko, or even the current Firelord. The other two sons of Aang/Katara. The history of Sokka, Suki, Azula, Toph, etc. And every episode gives you a tiny bit more information before raising more questions. Ahhh, to be able to write well in a world of fantasy is unfortunately a rare thing, but so far so good.

As a discussion point: The Last Airbender had a number of returning antagonists with the final boss of Ozai always a staple. If the anti-benders have other 'big boss' guys, what are you expecting? Just "better" chi blockers? Or perhaps that Tesla trooper guy is actually a big boss guy. Actually I wonder if we'll be seeing more of him. His voice and design was unique.
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motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
April 23 2012 03:52 GMT
#484
Resolved: a world without bending would, in fact, be a better world.
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Etrnity
Profile Joined November 2010
United States88 Posts
April 23 2012 03:53 GMT
#485
On April 23 2012 12:46 bittman wrote:
I find it interesting people think that because Korra's only missing element is air that there's nowhere for the series to go. A bit of imagination people, come on! =P

It's good they aren't just going to stick to a formula every time (hi Pokemon) but are hoping to explore some variety in story. So far I have to say it's to great effect with the strong female lead, a set environment and more mature themes. I'm really enjoying this season so far.

Re: Amon's identity. I don't think it's a "thing", but rather his scar story is true and he might personally feel his face must be hidden. I agree with the expectation that he is a bender, because Aang's ability was to bend the ability to bend which appeared to rely upon understanding bending. Of course this was taught to him by a mystical creature who appears to be linked with the spirit world. Regardless I like the Koh talk and I really do hope the spirit world is explored more this season.

I also like that they haven't flat out revealed everything in the first episode in some verbal diarrhoea. Like the current status of Zuko, or even the current Firelord. The other two sons of Aang/Katara. The history of Sokka, Suki, Azula, Toph, etc. And every episode gives you a tiny bit more information before raising more questions. Ahhh, to be able to write well in a world of fantasy is unfortunately a rare thing, but so far so good.

As a discussion point: The Last Airbender had a number of returning antagonists with the final boss of Ozai always a staple. If the anti-benders have other 'big boss' guys, what are you expecting? Just "better" chi blockers? Or perhaps that Tesla trooper guy is actually a big boss guy. Actually I wonder if we'll be seeing more of him. His voice and design was unique.


Not only this, but who's to say that the timeline of the first series is the same here, i.e. one element mastered a season. It could very well be that they get through this entire season just to reveal the identity of Amon, but take an additional season in order to defeat him. It could also be that it takes more time for her to learn air than one season. The possibilities are endless, and I think we shouldn't try to find too many time connections to the last one, so much as personal connections.
Tabbris
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Bangladesh2839 Posts
April 23 2012 03:56 GMT
#486
Im curious where the writers go with this. The equalist have a fair point. Bending gives the option of oppression. It would be hard to regulate to since bending is a natural thing a bender can do anytime anywhere. Whats exactly wrong with people not being able to bend anymore?
Emokes
Profile Joined April 2010
United States37 Posts
April 23 2012 04:01 GMT
#487
Didn't Aang speak to past avatars every once in a while ? If so do you guys think Korra will speak to Aang in someway in this series?
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acker
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2958 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-23 04:08:26
April 23 2012 04:03 GMT
#488
On April 23 2012 12:56 Tabbris wrote:
Im curious where the writers go with this. The equalist have a fair point. Bending gives the option of oppression. It would be hard to regulate to since bending is a natural thing a bender can do anytime anywhere. Whats exactly wrong with people not being able to bend anymore?

Harrison Bergeron comes to mind.

Bending gives the option of oppression, sure. But so do a whole host of other natural abilities. I'd argue that intelligence is far more prone to misuse than even the hypothetical ability to shoot lightning at people.

Taking bending away from all benders to remove oppression against nonbenders is like cutting off everybody's hands to prevent cruelty to quadriplegics. The "cure" is indiscriminate and makes no effort to separate those who abuse power from those who do not.
phoenix`down
Profile Joined November 2011
49 Posts
April 23 2012 04:10 GMT
#489
On April 23 2012 12:56 Tabbris wrote:
Im curious where the writers go with this. The equalist have a fair point. Bending gives the option of oppression. It would be hard to regulate to since bending is a natural thing a bender can do anytime anywhere. Whats exactly wrong with people not being able to bend anymore?


I don't think they really have a good point. There has been a good amount of very powerful non-benders in TLA universe. Bending takes a lot of training, you could just as easily train a regular fighting art to oppress weaker people (weak benders included).
Perception
Profile Joined August 2011
United States26 Posts
April 23 2012 04:11 GMT
#490
I find that the idea of "removing Bending from society" is similar to "removing Religion" in our world. Amon says that bending is the cause of all wars and problems in their world. Similarly, it can be said of religion in reality. Not necessarily to a super extent like in the show, but I still think that correlating the two definitely gives a better idea as to what Amon's rationality is. This series looks amazing, I can't wait to see what happens!
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fishuu
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States369 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-23 04:14:50
April 23 2012 04:13 GMT
#491
On April 23 2012 12:56 Tabbris wrote:
Im curious where the writers go with this. The equalist have a fair point. Bending gives the option of oppression. It would be hard to regulate to since bending is a natural thing a bender can do anytime anywhere. Whats exactly wrong with people not being able to bend anymore?


Equality is all good and well, but Amon's plan right now is to forcefully remove a natural and integral part of a good number of people's lives, and the Equalists seem to think this is perfectly fine. The stuff that Amon is preaching could easily turn into oppression itself by looking down on benders and taking away their bending if it gets to a larger scale.
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
April 23 2012 04:15 GMT
#492
On April 23 2012 12:53 Etrnity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2012 12:46 bittman wrote:
I find it interesting people think that because Korra's only missing element is air that there's nowhere for the series to go. A bit of imagination people, come on! =P

It's good they aren't just going to stick to a formula every time (hi Pokemon) but are hoping to explore some variety in story. So far I have to say it's to great effect with the strong female lead, a set environment and more mature themes. I'm really enjoying this season so far.

Re: Amon's identity. I don't think it's a "thing", but rather his scar story is true and he might personally feel his face must be hidden. I agree with the expectation that he is a bender, because Aang's ability was to bend the ability to bend which appeared to rely upon understanding bending. Of course this was taught to him by a mystical creature who appears to be linked with the spirit world. Regardless I like the Koh talk and I really do hope the spirit world is explored more this season.

I also like that they haven't flat out revealed everything in the first episode in some verbal diarrhoea. Like the current status of Zuko, or even the current Firelord. The other two sons of Aang/Katara. The history of Sokka, Suki, Azula, Toph, etc. And every episode gives you a tiny bit more information before raising more questions. Ahhh, to be able to write well in a world of fantasy is unfortunately a rare thing, but so far so good.

As a discussion point: The Last Airbender had a number of returning antagonists with the final boss of Ozai always a staple. If the anti-benders have other 'big boss' guys, what are you expecting? Just "better" chi blockers? Or perhaps that Tesla trooper guy is actually a big boss guy. Actually I wonder if we'll be seeing more of him. His voice and design was unique.


Not only this, but who's to say that the timeline of the first series is the same here, i.e. one element mastered a season. It could very well be that they get through this entire season just to reveal the identity of Amon, but take an additional season in order to defeat him. It could also be that it takes more time for her to learn air than one season. The possibilities are endless, and I think we shouldn't try to find too many time connections to the last one, so much as personal connections.

26 episodes is not a lot of time with which to construct a story. I mean, you can do it effectively, but you can't afford to put out episodes that don't fit into the broader scheme of things. We probably won't be seeing much filler at all; I would be surprised if more than one or two of the episodes in the series did not advance the plot significantly. Don't worry that there won't be much for Korra to do. I have a feeling that the pace of this series is going to feel rushed, if anything.

Recall that in season 3 of the original series, the show's writers had 21 episodes to execute what seemed like a fairly short plotline: Aang is in the Fire Nation, he needs to go defeat the Fire Lord. Yet the season seemed perfectly paced. Don't worry about where LoK is going. The show's creators know what they're doing. Just go along for the ride.
ModeratorGood content always wins.
Funguuuuu
Profile Joined July 2011
United States198 Posts
April 23 2012 04:17 GMT
#493
On April 23 2012 13:11 Perception wrote:
I find that the idea of "removing Bending from society" is similar to "removing Religion" in our world. Amon says that bending is the cause of all wars and problems in their world. Similarly, it can be said of religion in reality. Not necessarily to a super extent like in the show, but I still think that correlating the two definitely gives a better idea as to what Amon's rationality is. This series looks amazing, I can't wait to see what happens!

Not a good comparison. Anyone can change what they believe, and become religious/atheistic. You can't become a bender unless you're born with it.
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Etrnity
Profile Joined November 2010
United States88 Posts
April 23 2012 04:18 GMT
#494
On April 23 2012 13:15 motbob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2012 12:53 Etrnity wrote:
On April 23 2012 12:46 bittman wrote:
I find it interesting people think that because Korra's only missing element is air that there's nowhere for the series to go. A bit of imagination people, come on! =P

It's good they aren't just going to stick to a formula every time (hi Pokemon) but are hoping to explore some variety in story. So far I have to say it's to great effect with the strong female lead, a set environment and more mature themes. I'm really enjoying this season so far.

Re: Amon's identity. I don't think it's a "thing", but rather his scar story is true and he might personally feel his face must be hidden. I agree with the expectation that he is a bender, because Aang's ability was to bend the ability to bend which appeared to rely upon understanding bending. Of course this was taught to him by a mystical creature who appears to be linked with the spirit world. Regardless I like the Koh talk and I really do hope the spirit world is explored more this season.

I also like that they haven't flat out revealed everything in the first episode in some verbal diarrhoea. Like the current status of Zuko, or even the current Firelord. The other two sons of Aang/Katara. The history of Sokka, Suki, Azula, Toph, etc. And every episode gives you a tiny bit more information before raising more questions. Ahhh, to be able to write well in a world of fantasy is unfortunately a rare thing, but so far so good.

As a discussion point: The Last Airbender had a number of returning antagonists with the final boss of Ozai always a staple. If the anti-benders have other 'big boss' guys, what are you expecting? Just "better" chi blockers? Or perhaps that Tesla trooper guy is actually a big boss guy. Actually I wonder if we'll be seeing more of him. His voice and design was unique.


Not only this, but who's to say that the timeline of the first series is the same here, i.e. one element mastered a season. It could very well be that they get through this entire season just to reveal the identity of Amon, but take an additional season in order to defeat him. It could also be that it takes more time for her to learn air than one season. The possibilities are endless, and I think we shouldn't try to find too many time connections to the last one, so much as personal connections.

26 episodes is not a lot of time with which to construct a story. I mean, you can do it effectively, but you can't afford to put out episodes that don't fit into the broader scheme of things. We probably won't be seeing much filler at all; I would be surprised if more than one or two of the episodes in the series did not advance the plot significantly. Don't worry that there won't be much for Korra to do. I have a feeling that the pace of this series is going to feel rushed, if anything.

Recall that in season 3 of the original series, the show's writers had 21 episodes to execute what seemed like a fairly short plotline: Aang is in the Fire Nation, he needs to go defeat the Fire Lord. Yet the season seemed perfectly paced. Don't worry about where LoK is going. The show's creators know what they're doing. Just go along for the ride.


Couldn't agree more with your logic here. I have full faith and confidence that it will be done, and even if there is only 26 episodes, I'm fine with that. I'm sure that there will be another demand that maybe unrelated shows of equally good quality can pop up.
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
April 23 2012 04:19 GMT
#495
On April 23 2012 13:15 motbob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2012 12:53 Etrnity wrote:
On April 23 2012 12:46 bittman wrote:
I find it interesting people think that because Korra's only missing element is air that there's nowhere for the series to go. A bit of imagination people, come on! =P

It's good they aren't just going to stick to a formula every time (hi Pokemon) but are hoping to explore some variety in story. So far I have to say it's to great effect with the strong female lead, a set environment and more mature themes. I'm really enjoying this season so far.

Re: Amon's identity. I don't think it's a "thing", but rather his scar story is true and he might personally feel his face must be hidden. I agree with the expectation that he is a bender, because Aang's ability was to bend the ability to bend which appeared to rely upon understanding bending. Of course this was taught to him by a mystical creature who appears to be linked with the spirit world. Regardless I like the Koh talk and I really do hope the spirit world is explored more this season.

I also like that they haven't flat out revealed everything in the first episode in some verbal diarrhoea. Like the current status of Zuko, or even the current Firelord. The other two sons of Aang/Katara. The history of Sokka, Suki, Azula, Toph, etc. And every episode gives you a tiny bit more information before raising more questions. Ahhh, to be able to write well in a world of fantasy is unfortunately a rare thing, but so far so good.

As a discussion point: The Last Airbender had a number of returning antagonists with the final boss of Ozai always a staple. If the anti-benders have other 'big boss' guys, what are you expecting? Just "better" chi blockers? Or perhaps that Tesla trooper guy is actually a big boss guy. Actually I wonder if we'll be seeing more of him. His voice and design was unique.


Not only this, but who's to say that the timeline of the first series is the same here, i.e. one element mastered a season. It could very well be that they get through this entire season just to reveal the identity of Amon, but take an additional season in order to defeat him. It could also be that it takes more time for her to learn air than one season. The possibilities are endless, and I think we shouldn't try to find too many time connections to the last one, so much as personal connections.

26 episodes is not a lot of time with which to construct a story. I mean, you can do it effectively, but you can't afford to put out episodes that don't fit into the broader scheme of things. We probably won't be seeing much filler at all; I would be surprised if more than one or two of the episodes in the series did not advance the plot significantly. Don't worry that there won't be much for Korra to do. I have a feeling that the pace of this series is going to feel rushed, if anything.

Recall that in season 3 of the original series, the show's writers had 21 episodes to execute what seemed like a fairly short plotline: Aang is in the Fire Nation, he needs to go defeat the Fire Lord. Yet the season seemed perfectly paced. Don't worry about where LoK is going. The show's creators know what they're doing. Just go along for the ride.


To be fair, there are plenty of animes that pull this off and still have time for episodes that don't necessarily advance the plot. And mind you those aren't garbage anime either.

I think 26 is plenty of time, contrary to what most people think.
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obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
April 23 2012 04:21 GMT
#496
On April 23 2012 13:11 Perception wrote:
I find that the idea of "removing Bending from society" is similar to "removing Religion" in our world. Amon says that bending is the cause of all wars and problems in their world. Similarly, it can be said of religion in reality. Not necessarily to a super extent like in the show, but I still think that correlating the two definitely gives a better idea as to what Amon's rationality is. This series looks amazing, I can't wait to see what happens!

People say this about everything. Religious people will say atheism is the cause of most wars and point to Stalin and Hitler even if Hitler is religious. Hitler will say the Jews are responsible for everything. It's more about discrimination than religion.
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darkmetal505
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States639 Posts
April 23 2012 04:24 GMT
#497
Series getting good. Amon's technique seems janky compared to Aang's/Lionturtle's though. Amon is only pressing the chakra in the head, where Aang pressed both the head and chest. Plus no celestial lights coming out. Seems more to me as a deeper chi block than energy bending.
Supamang
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2298 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-23 04:29:47
April 23 2012 04:25 GMT
#498
On April 23 2012 13:13 fishuu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2012 12:56 Tabbris wrote:
Im curious where the writers go with this. The equalist have a fair point. Bending gives the option of oppression. It would be hard to regulate to since bending is a natural thing a bender can do anytime anywhere. Whats exactly wrong with people not being able to bend anymore?


Equality is all good and well, but Amon's plan right now is to forcefully remove a natural and integral part of a good number of people's lives, and the Equalists seem to think this is perfectly fine. The stuff that Amon is preaching could easily turn into oppression itself by looking down on benders and taking away their bending if it gets to a larger scale.

Reminds me of the Cultural Revolution to some extent


On April 23 2012 13:24 darkmetal505 wrote:
Series getting good. Amon's technique seems janky compared to Aang's/Lionturtle's though. Amon is only pressing the chakra in the head, where Aang pressed both the head and chest. Plus no celestial lights coming out. Seems more to me as a deeper chi block than energy bending.

Makes me think that it could be a ploy. How do they know its permanent if they only saw it for a moment? Theyd have to come back like an hour later and if he still couldn't bend then theyd know.

For all we know, Amon just did normal chi blocking, then took the guys to the back room and slit their throats (if it wasn't a kids show). And with that, everyone will believe that hes been given spiritual powers and word will spread. The whole idea that Amon can energy bend could be a "PR move" to gain recognition and influence
Chimpalimp
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1135 Posts
April 23 2012 04:29 GMT
#499
The season is starting out rather nice. I love the series because not only is it entertaining, heart warming, and badass at the same time, but its dense in cultural subtitles and symbolism. Without question ATLA is the if not one of the best shows on the air in the past 5 years, I have great hopes for the current season.

I agree with Amon's desire to have equality and a fair world where those with power do not oppress those without it, but he is taking it to a radical level. Bending, like alcohol in the modern world, is too ingrained in the society to simply be done away with.
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acker
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2958 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-23 04:33:03
April 23 2012 04:32 GMT
#500
On April 23 2012 13:25 Supamang wrote:

For all we know, Amon just did normal chi blocking, then took the guys to the back room and slit their throats (if it wasn't a kids show). And with that, everyone will believe that hes been given spiritual powers and word will spread. The whole idea that Amon can energy bend could be a "PR move" to gain recognition and influence

Amon is Friend?

If so, I bet he starts a megadisaster secretly and saves the populace from it publicly to start his ascent to world domination.
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