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On September 30 2011 03:12 Tachion wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2011 02:58 chocopaw wrote:
"All the scenes"? She is regarded to be the slutty secretary in ONE of them, and she does that job fine. As if women that fall into that scheme would always be top models.
Seriously, people who judge every female actor like that should ask themselves if they really appreciate the series for what it is. I think it was just awkward to see that change from season 3 to season 4. If she had looked that way since season 1 there wouldn't be much discussion about it, that's just how shes always been, but it's a little weird to see that physical change just appear out of no where when season 4 started.
I didn't even notice that she had gotten fat, I know my priorities and they surely aren't paying attention to the worst characters of the show nor an old woman that was never really attractive.
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Skyler being overweight doesn't affect the show at all, it makes sense that after having a baby, stress from Walt, and starting a new business that should we gain some weight. Still it would be nice to see her be a little more fit/slim, Gus is 10 years older and he is in phenomenal shape. The scene where he changes into the lab coat (to kill the worker that tried to make the meth) from his work clothes shows his physique well. They couldn't have a scene like that with Skyler because she's just let herself go so much.
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On September 30 2011 03:28 TYJ.Aoy wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2011 03:12 Tachion wrote:On September 30 2011 02:58 chocopaw wrote:
"All the scenes"? She is regarded to be the slutty secretary in ONE of them, and she does that job fine. As if women that fall into that scheme would always be top models.
Seriously, people who judge every female actor like that should ask themselves if they really appreciate the series for what it is. I think it was just awkward to see that change from season 3 to season 4. If she had looked that way since season 1 there wouldn't be much discussion about it, that's just how shes always been, but it's a little weird to see that physical change just appear out of no where when season 4 started. I didn't even notice that she had gotten fat, I know my priorities and they surely aren't paying attention to the worst characters of the show nor an old woman that was never really attractive.
I don't think she got fat, I think her face is fatter due to botox use. Seriously.
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On September 30 2011 03:33 vivaldi290 wrote:
Still it would be nice to see her be a little more fit/slim, Gus is 10 years older and he is in phenomenal shape. The scene where he changes into the lab coat (to kill the worker that tried to make the meth) from his work clothes shows his physique well. They couldn't have a scene like that with Skyler because she's just let herself go so much.
Now you're fucking joking, right? Why don't you watch Sex and the City, or even better, aerobic videos?
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I don't know if this is true but I heard she got pregnant IRL and that's why she gained weight... not that it should really matter since this show isnt about her physique at all and it's not like she was known as a trophy wife to begin with.
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I just finished watching the whole series up until the last episode... so I look into this thread for the first time. And all I really find is discussion about how fat Skyler has become, seriously?
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On September 30 2011 03:56 Spyridon wrote:
I don't know if this is true but I heard she got pregnant IRL and that's why she gained weight... not that it should really matter since this show isnt about her physique at all and it's not like she was known as a trophy wife to begin with.
Is that why they had to delay the show few months?
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On September 28 2011 20:04 crappen wrote:I dont really understand Gus. He seemed like a peaceful guy, who said he do not believe in fear as a motivator. He is really pissed at Walt for some weird reason, killing low life drugdealers? Having a little heated discussion? + Show Spoiler +
The conversation between Gus and Walt in the desert was also weird, I didnt really believe in it. Gus came across as angry and out of control, scared even. He used fear a lot, which is not the Gus I came to know.
My favourite character remains: Hank (although I love all of them)
I don't think he "could not make things work" with Walt because he's pissed at him. I think he couldnt make things work simply because of Hank. With Walt around, he can't do anything about Hank, and if he does not do anything about Hank they will all be caught. Gus is also smart enough to know that Walt believes 1 of them has to die, due to the only thing keeping Walt alive is the fact that he had to cook for Gus already.
But also notice how in the scene in this last episode, Gus specifically tells Walt about his plans with Hank, implying that he was going to kill him? Gus does everything for a reason and he would not give away his plans about Hank without a bigger picture. My guess is that he knew Walt would react to that, and this would result in Hank being supervised and not being able to continue his personal investigation, OR...
(This theory is a little more far fetched) Possibly he's hoping that Walt will go to Hank for help and come clean to him, knowing that the only way he could stop Hank's investigation was to put him in a situation where if he hands in Gus he will be tearing apart his own family as well, forcing Hank to cover for everyone.
Not that Gus's motives matter much, because it seems by the next episode Walt is going to resort to desperate measures and take things in to his own hands.
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I've started watching Breaking Bad 2 days ago and I'm in love with it.
I started Season 1 Episode 1 obviously, I'm currently at Season 2 Episode 13.
I think Season 1 and Season 2 are pretty equal, perhaps Season 2 is slightly drawn out but it's still good.
How good are Season 3/4 compared to 1 and 2?
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I think gus is very far from a pacifist/somewhat decent, otherwise he wouldn't have killed that dude from the lab that did nothing wrong just to get to walt nor would he even dare to threaten walt's wife and kids and many other things, either way that conversation on the desert was indeed very weird.
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On September 30 2011 04:13 Trizz wrote:
I've started watching Breaking Bad 2 days ago and I'm in love with it.
I started Season 1 Episode 1 obviously, I'm currently at Season 2 Episode 13.
I think Season 1 and Season 2 are pretty equal, perhaps Season 2 is slightly drawn out but it's still good.
How good are Season 3/4 compared to 1 and 2?
They're well worth seeing, that much is sure. The last two seasons are different in some regards, and I would go so far to say that they're even better. Thats probably subject to personal preferences in story focus and I'd like to hear your opionion when you're done watching them, but I'd recommend to watch them either way.
But please do note: An important character gains weight! If that is something you can't handle, better stop after season 2 to keep this series with all its slim women in good memory.
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Well the only reason they are talking about her weight gain is because maintaining a certain image kind of comes with the job of being an actress. The job 's very nature demands that certain visual and aesthetic standards do matter. So in some sense, the actress letting herself go when she has a TV contract job where she knows the timeline of her character does not move very much from season to season can be seen as unprofessional.
I mean, look at Christian Bale's detication to his role by losing all his batman muscle and looking like this for The Machinist. Now this is professionalism.
![[image loading]](http://www.shockya.com/news/wp-content/uploads/christian-bale-skinny.jpg)
That said, I think I know why you are on this little crusade here but by doing so you're really making it a bigger deal than most think it is.
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On September 30 2011 03:56 Spyridon wrote:
I don't know if this is true but I heard she got pregnant IRL and that's why she gained weight...
On September 30 2011 03:33 vivaldi290 wrote:
Skyler being overweight doesn't affect the show at all, it makes sense that after having a baby, stress from Walt, and starting a new business that should we gain some weight.
There you have a real-life explanation and an explanation storywise. But the point is: It doesn't matter one bit. One guy even theorized that she gained weight on purpose so she appears more annoying. That is just so over the top shallow that it pisses me off a bit.
Though I have to admit: you got me! Tell me the real reason for my "crusade".
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On September 30 2011 04:13 Trizz wrote:
I've started watching Breaking Bad 2 days ago and I'm in love with it.
I started Season 1 Episode 1 obviously, I'm currently at Season 2 Episode 13.
I think Season 1 and Season 2 are pretty equal, perhaps Season 2 is slightly drawn out but it's still good.
How good are Season 3/4 compared to 1 and 2?
I liked a couple episodes from seasons 1 and 2. I was always interested in the idea of a chemistry teacher resorting to making meth and all the complications that come with that (my career goal is to be a DEA agent, so that kind of stuff interests me). Unfortunately (well maybe not unfortunately because at least it eventually all lead to something), only a few episodes revolved around that and the rest had to do with Walt's family and stuff. I said to myself, if every episode was kind of like the first episode and a few others that revolved around the actual meth game, then this would be the best show ever.
Then season 3 came. And it became the best show ever. And just when you think it can't get better, it does. I'll just leave it at that 
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On September 30 2011 07:08 chocopaw wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2011 03:56 Spyridon wrote:
I don't know if this is true but I heard she got pregnant IRL and that's why she gained weight... Show nested quote +On September 30 2011 03:33 vivaldi290 wrote:
Skyler being overweight doesn't affect the show at all, it makes sense that after having a baby, stress from Walt, and starting a new business that should we gain some weight. There you have a real-life explanation and an explanation storywise. But the point is: It doesn't matter one bit. One guy even theorized that she gained weight on purpose so she appears more annoying. That is just so over the top shallow that it pisses me off a bit. Though I have to admit: you got me! Tell me the real reason for my "crusade".
It doesn't matter one bit? It does matter enough for people to mention it. When people get jacked/buff or lose weight between seasons people mention it all the time. Is that wrong too? How about when a child actor grows two inches between seasons that is supposed to be taking place within a month? Is that wrong, too? If not, why the double standard? The weight gain is just something to talk about. In acting, the way you look matters. Television and film are a very visual medium so it makes sense to talk about what people look like. It's very appropriate.
The way I worded the "reason for your crusade" didn't come out right. I meant that I can relate why you are going after people who are seemingly focusing on a very superficial part of an actress' overall performance and acting like it is so significant, but my point was that most people (except maybe one or two that you have such problems with) are not making a big deal out of it at all. They just thought it was worth mentioning and that they didn't like it (which is a perfectly fine opinion to have).
However, it doesn't mean they won't mention it or should they feel the moral need not to mention it just because women and society have a problem with looking down on fat people. All it is really doing is helping to drag the conversation compeltely off topic, as demonstrated in past two pages. So we can talk about why it happened, how it seems to fit regardless, etc but getting into the morality of the issue by condemning people for even mentioning it does and will make the conversation off topic.
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On September 30 2011 02:47 travito wrote:![[image loading]](http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/269878_10150265446187722_6798562721_7341523_2478502_n.jpg) Who does that remind you guys of? + Show Spoiler +Gordon Freeman! If they ever end up making a Half-Life movie (which will probably be never) then they have to cast Bryan Cranston.
![[image loading]](http://www.primaryignition.com/wp-content/uploads/virginmedia.com_.jpg)
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@Osko: Absolutely, thought the same thing. :D
On September 30 2011 07:50 Klogon wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2011 07:08 chocopaw wrote:On September 30 2011 03:56 Spyridon wrote:
I don't know if this is true but I heard she got pregnant IRL and that's why she gained weight... On September 30 2011 03:33 vivaldi290 wrote:
Skyler being overweight doesn't affect the show at all, it makes sense that after having a baby, stress from Walt, and starting a new business that should we gain some weight. There you have a real-life explanation and an explanation storywise. But the point is: It doesn't matter one bit. One guy even theorized that she gained weight on purpose so she appears more annoying. That is just so over the top shallow that it pisses me off a bit. Though I have to admit: you got me! Tell me the real reason for my "crusade". It doesn't matter one bit? It does matter enough for people to mention it. When people get jacked/buff or lose weight between seasons people mention it all the time. Is that wrong too? How about when a child actor grows two inches between seasons that is supposed to be taking place within a month? Is that wrong, too? If not, why the double standard? The weight gain is just something to talk about. In acting, the way you look matters. Television and film are a very visual medium so it makes sense to talk about what people look like. It's very appropriate. The way I worded the "reason for your crusade" didn't come out right. I meant that I can relate why you are going after people who are seemingly focusing on a very superficial part of an actress' overall performance and acting like it is so significant, but my point was that most people (except maybe one or two that you have such problems with) are not making a big deal out of it at all. They just thought it was worth mentioning and that they didn't like it (which is a perfectly fine opinion to have). However, it doesn't mean they won't mention it or should they feel the moral need not to mention it just because women and society have a problem with looking down on fat people. All it is really doing is helping to drag the conversation compeltely off topic, as demonstrated in past two pages. So we can talk about why it happened, how it seems to fit regardless, etc but getting into the morality of the issue by condemning people for even mentioning it does and will make the conversation off topic.
You contradict yourself a bit there. If all that you want is keep the discussion on topic then we are in the same boat, because as I said, the physique of Skylar should not be discussed here imo because it is pretty much off topic. If you argue that I'm not allowed to criticize others for posting about it because of my argumentation being of ethical nature then that's a double standard, because their posts have the same claim with negative value, namely that it's okay to judge the actress Anna Gunn for gaining weight.
Take something like this:
On July 18 2011 14:53 smallerk wrote:This episode was fucking amazing. That said, i also thought skyler got a little bit fat 
You can't tell me that reactions like this one would be the same with a child actor growing or a man getting fatter. Maybe you are the exception and you are just annoyed by this being a hindrance in the shows immersion (still, there are fair explanations in my last post), but I'm pretty sure with most people it's mainly sexism, and even if it isn't it is still the omnipresent discrimination of overweighted people.
I don't want to spill oil in the fire and gonna stop reacting to posts like those now. Would still be interested in your opinion though.
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On September 30 2011 06:53 Klogon wrote:Well the only reason they are talking about her weight gain is because maintaining a certain image kind of comes with the job of being an actress. The job 's very nature demands that certain visual and aesthetic standards do matter. So in some sense, the actress letting herself go when she has a TV contract job where she knows the timeline of her character does not move very much from season to season can be seen as unprofessional. I mean, look at Christian Bale's detication to his role by losing all his batman muscle and looking like this for The Machinist. Now this is professionalism. That said, I think I know why you are on this little crusade here but by doing so you're really making it a bigger deal than most think it is.
I don't care about Anna Gunn's weight. She's a very strong actress and I've liked her since Deadwood.
But for your example, I always thought the Machinist was produced before Batman Begins? I mean, Christian Bale did a great job transforming his body in both roles, of course. Just don't know about the timeline. Also, Robert Deniro as Jake Lamotta in Raging Bull, gotta give it up.
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Just watched episode 1 of season 3, damn powerful one.
A lot has happened, and quite some confusion too.
I was kinda dissapointed how the big secret was brought over.
For some reason I'm disliking Jesse's Character by the season.
Midway/late season 1 I liked him best.
Perhaps it will turn out better later on in season 3, but I need to sleep now.
Been watching 1 season per day on average O_o.
Little bit OT - if I love Breaking Bad, what other series would I like?
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On September 30 2011 09:31 Trizz wrote:
Little bit OT - if I love Breaking Bad, what other series would I like?
Definitely 'The Wire'. BB and The Wire are two of the best made television shows in recent memory. The pace of TW is slow and deliberate, but once you start watching and get into the universe, you are hooked.
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