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Neurosis
Profile Joined October 2010
United States893 Posts
February 27 2012 03:47 GMT
#81
On February 27 2012 12:24 Elegance wrote:
Is it just me or does Weightless sound vastly inferior to their first album (fav alltime album).


I assume you're talking about the new Animals as Leaders album? No it's not just you, it's almost completely missing all the catchy songwriting and quirky melodic sensibilities that were on the self titled. Got bored with it after a few rounds whereas I still listen to their first one regularly.
Elegance
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada917 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-27 03:53:27
February 27 2012 03:53 GMT
#82
On February 27 2012 12:47 Neurosis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2012 12:24 Elegance wrote:
Is it just me or does Weightless sound vastly inferior to their first album (fav alltime album).


I assume you're talking about the new Animals as Leaders album? No it's not just you, it's almost completely missing all the catchy songwriting and quirky melodic sensibilities that were on the self titled. Got bored with it after a few rounds whereas I still listen to their first one regularly.

Not to be a huge fanboy but I think it's because Weightless was written by the actual band, whereas the self-titled was a collaboration effort between Tosin and Misha Mansoor hence the large difference (and lack of groove in Weightless)
Power of Ze
rebuffering
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada2436 Posts
February 27 2012 22:08 GMT
#83
On February 27 2012 12:53 Elegance wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2012 12:47 Neurosis wrote:
On February 27 2012 12:24 Elegance wrote:
Is it just me or does Weightless sound vastly inferior to their first album (fav alltime album).


I assume you're talking about the new Animals as Leaders album? No it's not just you, it's almost completely missing all the catchy songwriting and quirky melodic sensibilities that were on the self titled. Got bored with it after a few rounds whereas I still listen to their first one regularly.

Not to be a huge fanboy but I think it's because Weightless was written by the actual band, whereas the self-titled was a collaboration effort between Tosin and Misha Mansoor hence the large difference (and lack of groove in Weightless)


100% agree! everything about the 1st album is better imo, the mixing, the "groovy" parts, but for me Weightless is just missing all those amazing and catchy guitar solo's/lead parts that made every song unique. On a side note, has anyone been listening to the new Entities album, Luminosity?? im so in love with this album right now.

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zefreak
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States2731 Posts
February 27 2012 23:31 GMT
#84
I think Weightless is just as good as the first album. Its got some great songwriting and playing IMO, and the production quality is improved.
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Elegance
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada917 Posts
February 29 2012 11:27 GMT
#85
Probably due to the fact that the guitars were recorded on an axe-fx instead of a pod x3
Power of Ze
rebuffering
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada2436 Posts
February 29 2012 22:09 GMT
#86
On February 29 2012 20:27 Elegance wrote:
Probably due to the fact that the guitars were recorded on an axe-fx instead of a pod x3


lol i play drums, so i dont know what the hell you're talking about, can you explain? is there a really big difference between the 2?
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Flicky
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
England2669 Posts
February 29 2012 22:39 GMT
#87
On January 17 2012 00:52 Klonere wrote:


sup, djent + saxophones + chris baretto

definitely check out their full length its amazing, if slightly overlong and the production is a bit sketchy.

oh and got-djent.com of course.


This song is amazing wow. I may have to pick up that album.

So I'm not explicitly into this Technical Metal stuff but from time to time I find some stuff I really like. One band I'm quite into is Xerath. Either way, I've decided that in 2012 I'm really going to be looking at metal again and focus on that as the genre to listen to.

Anyway, I'll probably be checking this thread every so often in case I find something so keep posting new releases here.

Also, I know this isn't really the same music but I know Chimp Spanner is popular in this sort of circle. Go check out his new EP. Really cool. Try Cloud City if you want a taste.
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rebuffering
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada2436 Posts
February 29 2012 22:47 GMT
#88
On March 01 2012 07:39 Flicky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2012 00:52 Klonere wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1w0ICgvGVV8

sup, djent + saxophones + chris baretto

definitely check out their full length its amazing, if slightly overlong and the production is a bit sketchy.

oh and got-djent.com of course.


This song is amazing wow. I may have to pick up that album.

So I'm not explicitly into this Technical Metal stuff but from time to time I find some stuff I really like. One band I'm quite into is Xerath. Either way, I've decided that in 2012 I'm really going to be looking at metal again and focus on that as the genre to listen to.

Anyway, I'll probably be checking this thread every so often in case I find something so keep posting new releases here.

Also, I know this isn't really the same music but I know Chimp Spanner is popular in this sort of circle. Go check out his new EP. Really cool. Try Cloud City if you want a taste.


Well if you like Chimp Spanner, than you need to check out Jakub Zytecki, without a doubt, i find they have similar tastes, altough they diverge in their own direction, i think Jakub is somewhat of a prodigy, so young, yet some of the best music ive ever heard.

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LoLAdriankat
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4307 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-01 01:49:21
March 01 2012 01:44 GMT
#89
On March 01 2012 07:09 rebuffering wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 29 2012 20:27 Elegance wrote:
Probably due to the fact that the guitars were recorded on an axe-fx instead of a pod x3


lol i play drums, so i dont know what the hell you're talking about, can you explain? is there a really big difference between the 2?

Yes. The Pod x3 just sounds overprocessed and artificial (honestly I can say this about every Line 6 product), while the Axe FX does a good job at sounding more natural, like a tube amplifier vs a solid.

Gotta thank Line 6 for giving people the opportunity to create the djent sound but their products haven't really done much else but convince bad guitar players who only use the 2 lowest strings that they've dialed in a good sound.
rebuffering
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada2436 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-01 01:52:57
March 01 2012 01:51 GMT
#90
On March 01 2012 10:44 LoLAdriankat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2012 07:09 rebuffering wrote:
On February 29 2012 20:27 Elegance wrote:
Probably due to the fact that the guitars were recorded on an axe-fx instead of a pod x3


lol i play drums, so i dont know what the hell you're talking about, can you explain? is there a really big difference between the 2?

Yes. The Pod x3 just sounds overprocessed and artificial (honestly I can say this about every Line 6 product), while the Axe FX does a good job at sounding more natural, like a tube amplifier vs a solid.

Gotta thank Line 6 for giving people the opportunity to create the djent sound but their products haven't really done much else but convince bad guitar players who only use the 2 lowest strings that they've dialed in a good sound.


Hmm, interesting, so what bands use which? say Periphery, or After the Burial, etc. O and Meshuggah, what do they use?
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deth
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Australia1757 Posts
March 01 2012 02:06 GMT
#91
Saw Meshuggah/Devin Townsend show last night, best concert ever. Those guys are so fucking sick live its incredible.
rebuffering
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada2436 Posts
March 01 2012 02:08 GMT
#92
On March 01 2012 11:06 deth wrote:
Saw Meshuggah/Devin Townsend show last night, best concert ever. Those guys are so fucking sick live its incredible.


Its actually insane how Meshuggah's sound live is better than it is on the album, how many bands can do that? in fact, a lot of the older Meshuggah stuff played live sounds way better than the Studio recordings. amazing! best band ever! cant wait til next month!
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Quesadilla
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1814 Posts
March 01 2012 02:14 GMT
#93
Looks like my original thread was a bit ahead of its time. Glad this is getting some more circulation and nerd support now.
Make a lot of friends. Wear good clothes. Drink good beer. Love a nice girl.
rebuffering
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada2436 Posts
March 01 2012 02:18 GMT
#94
On March 01 2012 11:14 Quesadilla wrote:
Looks like my original thread was a bit ahead of its time. Glad this is getting some more circulation and nerd support now.


It was indeed! its even in the opening post, i thought it was very good. nothing like laddering to some Meshuggah and the like! glad people are liking it, hope we get some more support in this lil thread, these bands deserve better.
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deth
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Australia1757 Posts
March 01 2012 02:23 GMT
#95
On March 01 2012 11:08 rebuffering wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2012 11:06 deth wrote:
Saw Meshuggah/Devin Townsend show last night, best concert ever. Those guys are so fucking sick live its incredible.


Its actually insane how Meshuggah's sound live is better than it is on the album, how many bands can do that? in fact, a lot of the older Meshuggah stuff played live sounds way better than the Studio recordings. amazing! best band ever! cant wait til next month!


They simply can't capture the raw energy they have live onto a recording.. it really just has to be seen to be believed.
LoLAdriankat
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4307 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-01 22:33:53
March 01 2012 22:31 GMT
#96
On March 01 2012 10:51 rebuffering wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2012 10:44 LoLAdriankat wrote:
On March 01 2012 07:09 rebuffering wrote:
On February 29 2012 20:27 Elegance wrote:
Probably due to the fact that the guitars were recorded on an axe-fx instead of a pod x3


lol i play drums, so i dont know what the hell you're talking about, can you explain? is there a really big difference between the 2?

Yes. The Pod x3 just sounds overprocessed and artificial (honestly I can say this about every Line 6 product), while the Axe FX does a good job at sounding more natural, like a tube amplifier vs a solid.

Gotta thank Line 6 for giving people the opportunity to create the djent sound but their products haven't really done much else but convince bad guitar players who only use the 2 lowest strings that they've dialed in a good sound.


Hmm, interesting, so what bands use which? say Periphery, or After the Burial, etc. O and Meshuggah, what do they use?

Meshuggah uses Line 6 Pod on all their albums (after their speed/thrash stuff of course) and Periphery uses Line 6 Pod on their album as well. However, both bands switched to Fractal Axe FX and pretty much abandoned Line 6 as far as I know. I don't think either of them released anything with the Axe FX yet.

edit
Oh wait, here's Misha testing his Axe FX.
http://soundcloud.com/iambulb/axefx-ii-high-gain-test-clip

Sounds so much better.
rebuffering
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada2436 Posts
March 01 2012 23:51 GMT
#97
On March 02 2012 07:31 LoLAdriankat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2012 10:51 rebuffering wrote:
On March 01 2012 10:44 LoLAdriankat wrote:
On March 01 2012 07:09 rebuffering wrote:
On February 29 2012 20:27 Elegance wrote:
Probably due to the fact that the guitars were recorded on an axe-fx instead of a pod x3


lol i play drums, so i dont know what the hell you're talking about, can you explain? is there a really big difference between the 2?

Yes. The Pod x3 just sounds overprocessed and artificial (honestly I can say this about every Line 6 product), while the Axe FX does a good job at sounding more natural, like a tube amplifier vs a solid.

Gotta thank Line 6 for giving people the opportunity to create the djent sound but their products haven't really done much else but convince bad guitar players who only use the 2 lowest strings that they've dialed in a good sound.


Hmm, interesting, so what bands use which? say Periphery, or After the Burial, etc. O and Meshuggah, what do they use?

Meshuggah uses Line 6 Pod on all their albums (after their speed/thrash stuff of course) and Periphery uses Line 6 Pod on their album as well. However, both bands switched to Fractal Axe FX and pretty much abandoned Line 6 as far as I know. I don't think either of them released anything with the Axe FX yet.

edit
Oh wait, here's Misha testing his Axe FX.
http://soundcloud.com/iambulb/axefx-ii-high-gain-test-clip

Sounds so much better.


Yeah that sounds really good actually. And for anyone who doesnt know, you can download all of Misha's stuff hes upped to soundcloud/soundclick, theres like 600 MB of songs to listen to, and some great Final Fantasy covers too!

part 1: http://www.mediafire.com/?19ks45af8wgq4tg
part 2: http://www.mediafire.com/?igsf0ashga7f950
part 3: http://www.mediafire.com/?nhw24z6l6v7h742
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Elegance
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada917 Posts
March 02 2012 01:13 GMT
#98
Misha uses the Axe-FX 2 now (and has been since release).

Not bashing Line 6 in anyway (I own a pod x3 myself), but I have to give credit where it's due.

As for reference, Periphery's first album was recorded through Axe-FX ultra (their second album will be through Axe-FX 2), Animals as Leaders self-titled debut was on a pod x3. Pretty sure Chimp Spanners stuff was recorded through pod (he may still use them). I have also heard that Tesseract used a Line 6 pod (not 100% sure)
Power of Ze
rebuffering
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada2436 Posts
March 02 2012 01:23 GMT
#99
On March 02 2012 10:13 Elegance wrote:
Misha uses the Axe-FX 2 now (and has been since release).

Not bashing Line 6 in anyway (I own a pod x3 myself), but I have to give credit where it's due.

As for reference, Periphery's first album was recorded through Axe-FX ultra (their second album will be through Axe-FX 2), Animals as Leaders self-titled debut was on a pod x3. Pretty sure Chimp Spanners stuff was recorded through pod (he may still use them). I have also heard that Tesseract used a Line 6 pod (not 100% sure)


Seems like its more of a preference thing i suppose. I wonder what Meshuggah's new album will be using. either way it will sound brutally awesome im sure!
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Sentient66
Profile Joined July 2009
United States651 Posts
March 02 2012 01:33 GMT
#100
Anyone up in here heard the new Veil of Maya yet? Absolutely killer offering by the band, and Misha Mansoor's production is top-notch as always.

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