about the term "djent" (didnt read the whole thread, so maybe its already discussed, then sry and stop reading):
i know people need to categorize things and stuff but i think the op is a little misleading. djent refers actually to a guitar playing technique and not the usage of polyrythms/polymetrics - they have been around in all kind of musical genres. ok, maybe not in pop music, but look at jazz and (modern) classical music and non-western music in general. this is just music theory. and not every band that uses the djent sound uses polyrythms. also not every meshuggah song is in an odd metre. moreover, not every "normal" rock song is in 4/4... just my 2 cents..
On December 13 2012 17:40 rescape wrote: about the term "djent" (didnt read the whole thread, so maybe its already discussed, then sry and stop reading):
i know people need to categorize things and stuff but i think the op is a little misleading. djent refers actually to a guitar playing technique and not the usage of polyrythms/polymetrics - they have been around in all kind of musical genres. ok, maybe not in pop music, but look at jazz and (modern) classical music and non-western music in general. this is just music theory. and not every band that uses the djent sound uses polyrythms. also not every meshuggah song is in an odd metre. moreover, not every "normal" rock song is in 4/4... just my 2 cents..
Djent means whatever you want it to mean bra! To me "djent" is the idea of having a song that is heavily influenced by the rhythm, which gives the songs a very groovy feel. On top of that rhythm base you can put whatever you want melodically.
Also, to rebuffering... You can write drums in Guitarpro and it's easy enough to get them in cubase or w/e with superior (was just working on this tonight actually! ) but as far as guitar... guitarpro guitars sound like shit. There is no way to get them sounding realistic and djenty, and believe me I've spent so many hours trying. Guitar Pro definitely has problems with that lower stuff and doesn't deal well with the fast attack/release of djenty music.For reference: https://soundcloud.com/aikepah/skycaptian-take-3 or https://soundcloud.com/aikepah/mr-orange note how the rhythm guitar sounds like complete and utter shit. (going to try and record it on a real guitar soon though thank god)
On December 13 2012 17:40 rescape wrote: about the term "djent" (didnt read the whole thread, so maybe its already discussed, then sry and stop reading):
i know people need to categorize things and stuff but i think the op is a little misleading. djent refers actually to a guitar playing technique and not the usage of polyrythms/polymetrics - they have been around in all kind of musical genres. ok, maybe not in pop music, but look at jazz and (modern) classical music and non-western music in general. this is just music theory. and not every band that uses the djent sound uses polyrythms. also not every meshuggah song is in an odd metre. moreover, not every "normal" rock song is in 4/4... just my 2 cents..
Djent means whatever you want it to mean bra! To me "djent" is the idea of having a song that is heavily influenced by the rhythm, which gives the songs a very groovy feel. On top of that rhythm base you can put whatever you want melodically.
Also, to rebuffering... You can write drums in Guitarpro and it's easy enough to get them in cubase or w/e with superior (was just working on this tonight actually! ) but as far as guitar... guitarpro guitars sound like shit. There is no way to get them sounding realistic and djenty, and believe me I've spent so many hours trying. Guitar Pro definitely has problems with that lower stuff and doesn't deal well with the fast attack/release of djenty music.For reference: https://soundcloud.com/aikepah/skycaptian-take-3 or https://soundcloud.com/aikepah/mr-orange note how the rhythm guitar sounds like complete and utter shit. (going to try and record it on a real guitar soon though thank god)
Did you write that song? Sounds awesome. Well, i mean, i like what im hearing, but yeah the "guitar" doesnt really sound right at all. Im seriously thinking of getting a 7-string and finding a way to play through my PC. Using a really cheap 6 string right now tuned to Drop A learning some Volumes stuff. Dont have an amp, may just buy a 1/4 " to USB cable and see what i get done with just that. Having fun learning guitar right now, but really need some distortion to really kick it up a notch.
On December 13 2012 17:40 rescape wrote: about the term "djent" (didnt read the whole thread, so maybe its already discussed, then sry and stop reading):
i know people need to categorize things and stuff but i think the op is a little misleading. djent refers actually to a guitar playing technique and not the usage of polyrythms/polymetrics - they have been around in all kind of musical genres. ok, maybe not in pop music, but look at jazz and (modern) classical music and non-western music in general. this is just music theory. and not every band that uses the djent sound uses polyrythms. also not every meshuggah song is in an odd metre. moreover, not every "normal" rock song is in 4/4... just my 2 cents..
Djent means whatever you want it to mean bra! To me "djent" is the idea of having a song that is heavily influenced by the rhythm, which gives the songs a very groovy feel. On top of that rhythm base you can put whatever you want melodically.
Also, to rebuffering... You can write drums in Guitarpro and it's easy enough to get them in cubase or w/e with superior (was just working on this tonight actually! ) but as far as guitar... guitarpro guitars sound like shit. There is no way to get them sounding realistic and djenty, and believe me I've spent so many hours trying. Guitar Pro definitely has problems with that lower stuff and doesn't deal well with the fast attack/release of djenty music.For reference: https://soundcloud.com/aikepah/skycaptian-take-3 or https://soundcloud.com/aikepah/mr-orange note how the rhythm guitar sounds like complete and utter shit. (going to try and record it on a real guitar soon though thank god)
Did you write that song? Sounds awesome. Well, i mean, i like what im hearing, but yeah the "guitar" doesnt really sound right at all. Im seriously thinking of getting a 7-string and finding a way to play through my PC. Using a really cheap 6 string right now tuned to Drop A learning some Volumes stuff. Dont have an amp, may just buy a 1/4 " to USB cable and see what i get done with just that. Having fun learning guitar right now, but really need some distortion to really kick it up a notch.
My friend Chase wrote most of that stuff, I've mostly just been working on production side of things at the moment, but it's what he wants to do so I'm going to teach him how to do all the basics of mixing/mastering so he can be off and running I just help him here and there with general concepts and bass line ideas haha. Anyways, when I record my bass tracks for those songs I'm going to be using my SansAmp RPM plugged straight into my Line-In port. using Asio4all in Cubase it let's me live monitor what i'm playing through my PC speakers with a very limited delay. In cubase I will run the guitar through effects -> amp simulation -> cab simulation to get it to have a real mic'd up sound, even though it's just plugged from the sansamp into the PC. If you want you can invest like $100-150 into an audio interface (USB or Firewire) which you can plug any guitar/mic into and record some good quality stuff on PC. If you want more info on the amp/cab simulation stuff ForTiori does some great tutorials on it here:
he also has great tutorials for the full range of mixing/mastering for every instrument (drums with superior drummer, bass, rhythm and lead guitars, and bits of vocals and then mastering the whole track)
On December 13 2012 17:40 rescape wrote: about the term "djent" (didnt read the whole thread, so maybe its already discussed, then sry and stop reading):
i know people need to categorize things and stuff but i think the op is a little misleading. djent refers actually to a guitar playing technique and not the usage of polyrythms/polymetrics - they have been around in all kind of musical genres. ok, maybe not in pop music, but look at jazz and (modern) classical music and non-western music in general. this is just music theory. and not every band that uses the djent sound uses polyrythms. also not every meshuggah song is in an odd metre. moreover, not every "normal" rock song is in 4/4... just my 2 cents..
Djent means whatever you want it to mean bra! To me "djent" is the idea of having a song that is heavily influenced by the rhythm, which gives the songs a very groovy feel. On top of that rhythm base you can put whatever you want melodically.
Also, to rebuffering... You can write drums in Guitarpro and it's easy enough to get them in cubase or w/e with superior (was just working on this tonight actually! ) but as far as guitar... guitarpro guitars sound like shit. There is no way to get them sounding realistic and djenty, and believe me I've spent so many hours trying. Guitar Pro definitely has problems with that lower stuff and doesn't deal well with the fast attack/release of djenty music.For reference: https://soundcloud.com/aikepah/skycaptian-take-3 or https://soundcloud.com/aikepah/mr-orange note how the rhythm guitar sounds like complete and utter shit. (going to try and record it on a real guitar soon though thank god)
Did you write that song? Sounds awesome. Well, i mean, i like what im hearing, but yeah the "guitar" doesnt really sound right at all. Im seriously thinking of getting a 7-string and finding a way to play through my PC. Using a really cheap 6 string right now tuned to Drop A learning some Volumes stuff. Dont have an amp, may just buy a 1/4 " to USB cable and see what i get done with just that. Having fun learning guitar right now, but really need some distortion to really kick it up a notch.
My friend Chase wrote most of that stuff, I've mostly just been working on production side of things at the moment, but it's what he wants to do so I'm going to teach him how to do all the basics of mixing/mastering so he can be off and running I just help him here and there with general concepts and bass line ideas haha. Anyways, when I record my bass tracks for those songs I'm going to be using my SansAmp RPM plugged straight into my Line-In port. using Asio4all in Cubase it let's me live monitor what i'm playing through my PC speakers with a very limited delay. In cubase I will run the guitar through effects -> amp simulation -> cab simulation to get it to have a real mic'd up sound, even though it's just plugged from the sansamp into the PC. If you want you can invest like $100-150 into an audio interface (USB or Firewire) which you can plug any guitar/mic into and record some good quality stuff on PC. If you want more info on the amp/cab simulation stuff ForTiori does some great tutorials on it here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZLEQT_fZxw&list=PL26855E6BFEA3AA9A&index=7 he also has great tutorials for the full range of mixing/mastering for every instrument (drums with superior drummer, bass, rhythm and lead guitars, and bits of vocals and then mastering the whole track)
Wow, thx very much for the info. Going to be thinking about this real hard for a week or so, since i might be buying a 7 string, may cost me some decent coin i assume. and if i understand correctly, i will need a guitar, and the audio interface in order to start recording correct? and i assume i can find some programs to help getting the tone right once im plugged in and ready to record. Thx again.
On December 13 2012 17:40 rescape wrote: about the term "djent" (didnt read the whole thread, so maybe its already discussed, then sry and stop reading):
i know people need to categorize things and stuff but i think the op is a little misleading. djent refers actually to a guitar playing technique and not the usage of polyrythms/polymetrics - they have been around in all kind of musical genres. ok, maybe not in pop music, but look at jazz and (modern) classical music and non-western music in general. this is just music theory. and not every band that uses the djent sound uses polyrythms. also not every meshuggah song is in an odd metre. moreover, not every "normal" rock song is in 4/4... just my 2 cents..
Djent means whatever you want it to mean bra! To me "djent" is the idea of having a song that is heavily influenced by the rhythm, which gives the songs a very groovy feel. On top of that rhythm base you can put whatever you want melodically.
Also, to rebuffering... You can write drums in Guitarpro and it's easy enough to get them in cubase or w/e with superior (was just working on this tonight actually! ) but as far as guitar... guitarpro guitars sound like shit. There is no way to get them sounding realistic and djenty, and believe me I've spent so many hours trying. Guitar Pro definitely has problems with that lower stuff and doesn't deal well with the fast attack/release of djenty music.For reference: https://soundcloud.com/aikepah/skycaptian-take-3 or https://soundcloud.com/aikepah/mr-orange note how the rhythm guitar sounds like complete and utter shit. (going to try and record it on a real guitar soon though thank god)
Did you write that song? Sounds awesome. Well, i mean, i like what im hearing, but yeah the "guitar" doesnt really sound right at all. Im seriously thinking of getting a 7-string and finding a way to play through my PC. Using a really cheap 6 string right now tuned to Drop A learning some Volumes stuff. Dont have an amp, may just buy a 1/4 " to USB cable and see what i get done with just that. Having fun learning guitar right now, but really need some distortion to really kick it up a notch.
My friend Chase wrote most of that stuff, I've mostly just been working on production side of things at the moment, but it's what he wants to do so I'm going to teach him how to do all the basics of mixing/mastering so he can be off and running I just help him here and there with general concepts and bass line ideas haha. Anyways, when I record my bass tracks for those songs I'm going to be using my SansAmp RPM plugged straight into my Line-In port. using Asio4all in Cubase it let's me live monitor what i'm playing through my PC speakers with a very limited delay. In cubase I will run the guitar through effects -> amp simulation -> cab simulation to get it to have a real mic'd up sound, even though it's just plugged from the sansamp into the PC. If you want you can invest like $100-150 into an audio interface (USB or Firewire) which you can plug any guitar/mic into and record some good quality stuff on PC. If you want more info on the amp/cab simulation stuff ForTiori does some great tutorials on it here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZLEQT_fZxw&list=PL26855E6BFEA3AA9A&index=7 he also has great tutorials for the full range of mixing/mastering for every instrument (drums with superior drummer, bass, rhythm and lead guitars, and bits of vocals and then mastering the whole track)
Wow, thx very much for the info. Going to be thinking about this real hard for a week or so, since i might be buying a 7 string, may cost me some decent coin i assume. and if i understand correctly, i will need a guitar, and the audio interface in order to start recording correct? and i assume i can find some programs to help getting the tone right once im plugged in and ready to record. Thx again.
yea once you have an audio interface of some kind you can do the rest for free. There's free and cheap DAWs you can use (like Reaper $60) or you know you can get them free other places... which I'm personally fine with as long as you are using it for learning and not making money And then if you watch ForTiori's tutorials every plugin he uses are free. So the amp/cap simulations and all the effects and what not.
I want to share a great tune with you guys, by one of my favourite guitarists. Tosin, get 'em fella!
Savage tune.
haha I'm sure anyone who posts in this thread has seen that video. Tosin is quite good. Super amazing live as well. if you ever have a chance to see AAL, DO IT!
Rebuffering, where's this music you're working on? Let's hear it brohan!
Didn't see any Angel Vivaldi in here. He's doesn't tune as low (at least it doesn't sound like) as most djent artists, but he does shred like a beast.
This band doesn't have the low djenty tone, but they have that progressive odd-time style.
Cool instrumental djent band.
I'm also way into structures, northlane and after the burial. Hard to find good djent thats complex and melodic while having a singer thats nice to listen to.
I saw these guys for free at a festival because I was playing on a way way smaller (and colder) stage and I was very impressed with their sound and intensity. However, I was fairly bored after 20 mins. Quite a lot of repetition. My gf loved the bassist (I think)'s hair lol.
Nobody's posted Meshuggah's latest video? A month or so old but if you haven't seen it yet, it's pretty awesome!
I think it demonstrates how much an accompanying video can contribute to the musical experience. I didn't really give much attention to the song until I watched the video for it.
I saw these guys for free at a festival because I was playing on a way way smaller (and colder) stage and I was very impressed with their sound and intensity. However, I was fairly bored after 20 mins. Quite a lot of repetition. My gf loved the bassist (I think)'s hair lol.
I don't know that I'd say there's a lot of repetition, but I definitely understand where you are coming from. April and Eden are 2 of my favorite songs, and I wouldn't say they are repetitive ;D
Thought id post this, been listening to it on repeat for awhile now everyday lol.
From the song page: "The little cover thingy of the MONUMENTS' song Admit Defeat, now streaming in full version!
The idea was to cover the song but instead of using the original minor scales, I went for the major ones because I thought it would be interesting to hear, thus making the song sound completely different from the original version."
EPT
) but as far as guitar... guitarpro guitars sound like shit. There is no way to get them sounding realistic and djenty, and believe me I've spent so many hours trying. Guitar Pro definitely has problems with that lower stuff and doesn't deal well with the fast attack/release of djenty music.For reference: 
I just help him here and there with general concepts and bass line ideas haha. Anyways, when I record my bass tracks for those songs I'm going to be using my SansAmp RPM plugged straight into my Line-In port. using Asio4all in Cubase it let's me live monitor what i'm playing through my PC speakers with a very limited delay. In cubase I will run the guitar through effects -> amp simulation -> cab simulation to get it to have a real mic'd up sound, even though it's just plugged from the sansamp into the PC. If you want you can invest like $100-150 into an audio interface (USB or Firewire) which you can plug any guitar/mic into and record some good quality stuff on PC. If you want more info on the amp/cab simulation stuff ForTiori does some great tutorials on it here: 
