I consider myself a mediocre metal fan, however I can't get myself to like post-hardcore and djent music :D
what do I do to start liking these ugly and lacking individuality vocals ? and this music that lacks melody and individuality ? I feel like for those who DO already love this genre, it's a world of its own and a wonderful one ,but how to get into it ? any bands / songs to start with ?
Here's a list with some of my favorites: The Korea, After The Burial, Aliases, Born of Osiris, Circles, Circles of Contempt, Erra, Mureau, Northlane, Periphery, Structures, Substructure, Volumes, Tesseract, Uneven Structure, Animals As Leaders, The Contortionist, Cloudkicker, Eitist, Fellsilent, Vildhjarta. Those are the ones I can think of off the top of my head.
On May 22 2012 09:19 Nancial wrote: I consider myself a mediocre metal fan, however I can't get myself to like post-hardcore and djent music :D
what do I do to start liking these ugly and lacking individuality vocals ? and this music that lacks melody and individuality ? I feel like for those who DO already love this genre, it's a world of its own and a wonderful one ,but how to get into it ? any bands / songs to start with ?
start with the ones that pride themselves on BEING melodic and individual.
I would recommend starting with instrumental projects such as Animals as Leaders, Chimp Spanner, Cloudkicker.
Then progress to bands with cleaner vocals and pride themselves on melody/ambient sections (albiet containing their fair share of harsh vocals): TesseracT, Skyharbor, Uneven Structure, Circles, Haunted Shores, Periphery, the human abstract, Textures.
Next, when you're hungry for more, you hit up: Meshuggah, Textures (older/heavier albums), Born of Osiris, Vildjharta, Cardona, The Contortionist, Dillinger Escape plan (not djent, but fucking awesome math metal), and many more.
On May 21 2012 16:39 deth wrote: Tesseracts new EP leaked, find it for yourselves and have a solid listen. Loving Elliot's range, cant wait to see what they can do when they FINALLY release new material.
In other news, new periphery album on july 3rd!
If theres an instrumental version of Tesseracts EP ill listen to it, but i cant take anymore of this Elliot Coleman voice, its like hes got vibrato ON all the time in his voice box, range is great, but personally, i think hes detracting from the band, i mean, is it so hard to just play instrumental music Tesseract? Your musicianship is more than enough for me, even loving Dan's vocals from the original stuff, id still rather instrumental overall.
As for Periphery, finally, been listening to Bulb's like 200 songs from sounclick/cloud or w/e, need some new shit here.
On May 22 2012 09:19 Nancial wrote: I consider myself a mediocre metal fan, however I can't get myself to like post-hardcore and djent music :D
what do I do to start liking these ugly and lacking individuality vocals ? and this music that lacks melody and individuality ? I feel like for those who DO already love this genre, it's a world of its own and a wonderful one ,but how to get into it ? any bands / songs to start with ?
start from here:
maybe that particular song is too undjenty for the most parts. no idea. alternatively this song is a very good starting point. pure djent:
meshuggah is fkin hard to get into. you need to have some love for progressive and sick rhythm.
and for post-hardcore, i recommend sikth. no idea what you can call them, maybe mathcore. they are like a progressive version of post-hardcore.
Totally agree with out Beg ^^ . Textures is what started me off with their 1st album, mainly the song Polars, just a wonderful song. Meshuggah tho, man it took me awhile to get into them, but when i did, my world opened up to something amazing, a band of geniuses, who were so ahead of their time, even 10+ years ago, making music that still holds the test of time.
And a great cover of an old Volumes song, which is a very underrated band IMO.
I can't stand Volumes tbh, seems like the shitty side of the djent movement I detest - djent for the sake of it, such a mediocre, middle of the road band lacking in creativity and originality.
On May 25 2012 23:43 deth wrote: I can't stand Volumes tbh, seems like the shitty side of the djent movement I detest - djent for the sake of it, such a mediocre, middle of the road band lacking in creativity and originality.
Bleh.
ok, well you could have just said, "meh, not my thing personally" , or hell, just not even post at all, not like your adding anything to this thread.
On May 25 2012 23:43 deth wrote: I can't stand Volumes tbh, seems like the shitty side of the djent movement I detest - djent for the sake of it, such a mediocre, middle of the road band lacking in creativity and originality.
Bleh.
ok, well you could have just said, "meh, not my thing personally" , or hell, just not even post at all, not like your adding anything to this thread.
what part of the word discussion do you not understand
On May 25 2012 23:43 deth wrote: I can't stand Volumes tbh, seems like the shitty side of the djent movement I detest - djent for the sake of it, such a mediocre, middle of the road band lacking in creativity and originality.
Bleh.
Definitely understand where you are coming from. I personally like the djenty stuff that has more riffing and melodic parts, like a lot of chimp spanner and tesseract and friend for a foe. I do enjoy a lot of periphery/bulb stuff as well. So try listening to those bands and see if you like any of them.
Quite enjoying all these bands at present. While I do love Meshuggah I do enjoy the bands who expand the melodies a bit more than Meshuggah's sparse style.
hey guys, got some sweet new tunes im listening too right now, not pure djent by any means, but its in there, and its just all around impressive stuff, instrumental as well, which is always a plus in my book. Check these guys out, loving this album right now.
Save us from the Archon
Also, ^^ yeah you got that right, but heres some vocal preformances that came out not to long ago, mainly Dan from Skyharbor posted preety much the whole album playthrough on his youtube, totally awesome. http://www.youtube.com/user/RockWithDan . Also, theres some Corelia Vocal only tracks that are amazing as well.
If you havent checked out Corelia's stuff, its a must listen IMO.
I can't wait to get my CD+T-Shirt+Poster preorder in a week or so :3
I think Spencer really stepped it up on vocals for this album. And the guitars seem quite a bit different than their first album... but it's still definitely Periphery... just the real Periphery rather than just Bulb
I can't wait to get my CD+T-Shirt+Poster preorder in a week or so :3
I think Spencer really stepped it up on vocals for this album. And the guitars seem quite a bit different than their first album... but it's still definitely Periphery... just the real Periphery rather than just Bulb
Thanks for the link. I don't make an effort to keep up with much so I wouldn't have noticed for weeks otherwise
Very much enjoyed the first; especially sans vocals.
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I definitely prefer the more rhythmic stuff when it comes to this genre. The 'melodic' soloing and riffage, to my ears, is usually everything but.
Yuppers, sounds great. And Periphery II is preety awesome i gotta say, listening to it constantly right now. It does sound a little different then the old Periphery, not a bad thing at all, really digging the vocals, and the fact its not just Chug-Chug-Chug, liking the diversity here.
I also gotta promote Save us from the Archon again, this is probly my Favorite album at this moment, people should really check it out. Much more up beat than the the normal stuff in here.
And while im here, im re-listening to Ion Dissonance, which is a band kind of close to my heart, since i listened to them all through high-school, and just recently got back into their older stuff, probly doesnt really belong in here, but i know the people who read this thread are at least fans of good musicians, and this stuff is still preety damn coplex, not to mention was my first time hearing 7 strings in action, with a nice tone, and the mixing to their albums is great as well (except their 1st). Here, Stay awhile, and listen...
Here we go! **Note youtube destroys the bitrate and overall sound quality, so if you like what you hear, go find it!
Also, their Canadian!! cool!
From their 1st album, very rough, and mixing wasnt at its best here, but they made this album in 2003, still awesome song, and awesome album. + Show Spoiler +
From the Album "Solace", one of the wackiest, crazy complicated albums ive heard, just a taste here. + Show Spoiler +
From the same album "Solace", one of my favorite songs of all time, an EPIC 10 min song, although the 1st few minutes are just awesome Dischords, which they love so much, and sound awesome of course, but this song is really a testament to their skills, timings are amazing, outro is simply insane, and some amazing drums. Song truly starts at 2:15. and at 3:20, some of the darkest shit ive ever heard, especially if you like some really really low tones.
From their 3rd album, arguably the best album, to me this album is more djenty than the others, way more breakdowns, much slower in a way, with some sick good songs.
Here, one of the best intro songs to an album, nice, and heavy.
This song, is kind of at the hear of this particular album, heavy rythms and lots of chug. + Show Spoiler +
and just one of my personal favs fromt he album, listen to it on the way in the work parking lot, really gets me going!!!! + Show Spoiler +
Their 4th and latest album, personally, not a huge fan of, but it does feel like a mix of Solace and Minus the Herd, still heavy, but way more complex then Minus the herd, not as much groove i guess. Still tho, has an awesome intro song