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SPOILER WARNING If you only watch the show, this thread will spoil you of future events in HBO's Game of Thrones. Thread contains discussion of all books of the series A Song of Ice and Fire
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Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
April 16 2012 18:47 GMT
#1701
On April 17 2012 03:10 ZasZ. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2012 03:06 c0ldfusion wrote:
On April 17 2012 02:44 Conti wrote:
I'm pretty sure that Osha will replace the Reeds. For one, she's a way, way, waaay too good actress to just send her off with Rickon. As much as I love the Reeds, I think Osha is a natural fit for Bran's journey. Bran needs to go north of the wall, and she's a wildling..


Yeah, except who's gonna go with Rickon? He ain't leaving by himself.


Wouldn't be too hard to just not kill off Maester Luwin and have him take Rickon.

Good ideas here.
That is exactly how it could go down.
Off-season = best season
SilverLeagueElite
Profile Joined April 2010
United States626 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-16 20:29:01
April 16 2012 20:22 GMT
#1702
On April 16 2012 21:22 GDbushido wrote:
everyone's going to talk about dinklage's performance, and rightly so, but I gotta say sophie turner has been tremendous as sansa so far this season. you can feel all her characters emotions just by looking at her.

All the child actors are well cast. Dinklage's praise comes in no small part from the writers giving him the best lines(even taking away awesome lines from minor characters to give to him). As far as pure performance, Charles Dance's Tywin gets my vote. But of course, despicable characters don't often get award nominations.

I think it would be a great travesty if they were to cut the Reeds considering:
1. All the Reeds are badasses.
2. Assuming R+L=J is right, Howland is the only person(by extension, his children) left that can possibly know of Jon's secret. The question remains of how will Jon learn his secret?

As an aside, in my rereading, Arya is skill-less with bow & arrow.
scudst0rm
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada1149 Posts
April 16 2012 20:37 GMT
#1703
On April 17 2012 05:22 SilverLeagueElite wrote:
As an aside, in my rereading, Arya is skill-less with bow & arrow.


That's assuming she was trying to hit the target? What if her intention was actually to kill Bran?
You're like a one ranger army comin' at me...
RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6292 Posts
April 16 2012 20:40 GMT
#1704
On April 17 2012 05:37 scudst0rm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2012 05:22 SilverLeagueElite wrote:
As an aside, in my rereading, Arya is skill-less with bow & arrow.


That's assuming she was trying to hit the target? What if her intention was actually to kill Bran?


Why would Arya want to hit her brother?
antelope591
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada820 Posts
April 16 2012 20:42 GMT
#1705
On April 17 2012 05:22 SilverLeagueElite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2012 21:22 GDbushido wrote:
everyone's going to talk about dinklage's performance, and rightly so, but I gotta say sophie turner has been tremendous as sansa so far this season. you can feel all her characters emotions just by looking at her.

All the child actors are well cast. Dinklage's praise comes in no small part from the writers giving him the best lines(even taking away awesome lines from minor characters to give to him). As far as pure performance, Charles Dance's Tywin gets my vote. But of course, despicable characters don't often get award nominations.

I think it would be a great travesty if they were to cut the Reeds considering:
1. All the Reeds are badasses.
2. Assuming R+L=J is right, Howland is the only person(by extension, his children) left that can possibly know of Jon's secret. The question remains of how will Jon learn his secret?

As an aside, in my rereading, Arya is skill-less with bow & arrow.


I agree...although Peter Dinklage does the best job out of the main characters Charles Dance is #1 to me as far as overall performance from book to TV. If you took Tywin right out of the book he plays him EXACTLY how I'd picture him looks and all. I think the kid that plays Joffrey does an excellent job too....he's pretty much exactly how he is in the books and just as hateable
Salteador Neo
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Andorra5591 Posts
April 16 2012 20:46 GMT
#1706
On April 17 2012 05:22 SilverLeagueElite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2012 21:22 GDbushido wrote:
everyone's going to talk about dinklage's performance, and rightly so, but I gotta say sophie turner has been tremendous as sansa so far this season. you can feel all her characters emotions just by looking at her.

All the child actors are well cast. Dinklage's praise comes in no small part from the writers giving him the best lines(even taking away awesome lines from minor characters to give to him). As far as pure performance, Charles Dance's Tywin gets my vote. But of course, despicable characters don't often get award nominations.

I think it would be a great travesty if they were to cut the Reeds considering:
1. All the Reeds are badasses.
2. Assuming R+L=J is right, Howland is the only person(by extension, his children) left that can possibly know of Jon's secret. The question remains of how will Jon learn his secret?

As an aside, in my rereading, Arya is skill-less with bow & arrow.


Arya hits the target during Bran's bow training, like a baws.
Revolutionist fan
aloT
Profile Joined April 2010
England1042 Posts
April 16 2012 20:50 GMT
#1707
If the actor is good you will love him.

If the actor is great you will hate him.

Joffrey #1
Crazyeyes
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada1342 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-16 21:39:00
April 16 2012 21:37 GMT
#1708
Just watched the third episode and read the last few pages of this thread.

They're doing SUCH A GOOD JOB with casting. I hate how little time they get for everythign. Just as I'm realizing that Yoren is fucking awesome, he goes off and dies.
Was anyone else dissapointed in that battle scene?
That was one of my favorite parts of the entire series. Lorch attacking the little keep as the black brothers defend, everyone getting plenty of kills. Hot Pie yelling his awesome battle cry.
I was so excited for it, hoping against hope that they'd include it somehow...

and we just get Yoren go out in a blaze of glory. =[

How did Arya learn her prayer in the books? I don't remember. It seems like they're going to skip right over the whole Tickler et al thing (no torture, etc) and go straight to Harrenhal.


As for the Reeds, I think I read somehwere that htey were going to be cast in the third season? You might be able to pull it off without them in book 2, but they're too vital the to story to copmletley cut out.

I think. :/
WeeEEeeEEEeeEEEeeeEEee!!
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19228 Posts
April 16 2012 23:37 GMT
#1709
Jaqen taught her the prayer in the books.
Liquipediaasante sana squash banana
Leth0
Profile Joined February 2012
856 Posts
April 16 2012 23:52 GMT
#1710
On April 17 2012 08:37 tofucake wrote:
Jaqen taught her the prayer in the books.


nobody taught her the prayer in the books, Jaqen only gives here the iron coin and the phrase for "all men must die" which she doesn't even understand at the time and uses it on her own to end her nightly "prayers".
GDbushido
Profile Joined March 2011
United States926 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-17 02:04:12
April 17 2012 01:50 GMT
#1711
correct, no one taught arya how to be a cold blooded gangster praying for niggas demises, she just IS one.

as to the Reeds - those are going to be two very difficult roles to cast. its possible the producers just couldn't find two young actors they really liked, and held out on them in season two in hopes of finding the right ones.
remember not to think too much and your trip will be numbingly pleasant
antelope591
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada820 Posts
April 17 2012 02:02 GMT
#1712
Yeah she just tought herself in the books...but I loved how they added in Yoren's story. Probably my fav part of the episode. In the books we understand her mindset so the prayer just coming from her makes sense but it would look weird on TV if it just came out of nowhere.
PeT[uK]
Profile Joined November 2009
United States412 Posts
April 17 2012 02:03 GMT
#1713
On April 17 2012 10:50 GDbushido wrote:
correct, no one taught arya how to be a cold blooded gangster praying for niggas demises, she just IS one.


LMFAO best comment in the thread haha.
How Happy Are the Blameless Vestals Lot.
Carras
Profile Joined August 2010
Argentina860 Posts
April 17 2012 02:12 GMT
#1714
loved this episode.. much more than the first 2..
no reeds
Sprungjeezy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States1313 Posts
April 17 2012 02:18 GMT
#1715
On April 17 2012 11:12 Carras wrote:
loved this episode.. much more than the first 2..
no reeds


Unless Osha goes with Bran and Maester Luwin goes with Rickon (which is plausible), I think the Reeds will come sooner or later (maybe next season), can't imagine the epic legend of Bran and the dumb giant making much sense.

I also liked Yoren's part, can't wait for the rest of the season.
happyness
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2400 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-17 02:32:22
April 17 2012 02:31 GMT
#1716
I think the writers could bring the reeds in next season pretty easily. Maybe they could meet them on the way to the wall? It wouldn't make sense geographically from a book viewpoint, but they could make it work.
DURRHURRDERP
Profile Joined May 2006
Canada929 Posts
April 17 2012 02:38 GMT
#1717
On April 17 2012 05:42 antelope591 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2012 05:22 SilverLeagueElite wrote:
On April 16 2012 21:22 GDbushido wrote:
everyone's going to talk about dinklage's performance, and rightly so, but I gotta say sophie turner has been tremendous as sansa so far this season. you can feel all her characters emotions just by looking at her.

All the child actors are well cast. Dinklage's praise comes in no small part from the writers giving him the best lines(even taking away awesome lines from minor characters to give to him). As far as pure performance, Charles Dance's Tywin gets my vote. But of course, despicable characters don't often get award nominations.

I think it would be a great travesty if they were to cut the Reeds considering:
1. All the Reeds are badasses.
2. Assuming R+L=J is right, Howland is the only person(by extension, his children) left that can possibly know of Jon's secret. The question remains of how will Jon learn his secret?

As an aside, in my rereading, Arya is skill-less with bow & arrow.


I agree...although Peter Dinklage does the best job out of the main characters Charles Dance is #1 to me as far as overall performance from book to TV. If you took Tywin right out of the book he plays him EXACTLY how I'd picture him looks and all. I think the kid that plays Joffrey does an excellent job too....he's pretty much exactly how he is in the books and just as hateable


the only gripe i have about charles dance is that his TV version of tywin isnt completely bald

a minor detail but come on! there was even an explanation for his baldness (didnt believe in half measures -> shaved his head when he started losing his hair)
"I am an iconic role model for everyone aspiring to be better at League of Legends." - Roffles
moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
April 17 2012 02:45 GMT
#1718
One thing that struck me is that in ACoK Amory Lorch and his group are mainly looking around for Beric and burning and foraging the Riverlands, the engagement with the Night's Watch was not planned or anything. In the TV adaptation Amory Lorch came around looking for Gendry specifically rather than looking for Beric. In fact, we've had no mention of Beric and the Brotherhood Without Banners this season. Surely they'll be introducing the Brotherhood later on, but we're missing out on all the stories of Beric having been killed all those times, and still rebelling.
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
GDbushido
Profile Joined March 2011
United States926 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-17 02:49:19
April 17 2012 02:49 GMT
#1719
I'm pretty sure the first mention of Dondarrion comes when Arya and co. are captured by the Mountain, which appears to have been cut from the show. I'm sure we'll hear about them in the next episode or two once Arya reaches Harranhal.
remember not to think too much and your trip will be numbingly pleasant
moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-17 03:09:17
April 17 2012 02:52 GMT
#1720
I thought they were mentioned (in the books) when Amory Lorch attacks them. He demands they open the gates to see if Beric is there, and then after they decline the fight breaks out. The Tickler then "questions" the remaining survivors (and random people in the riverlands) about Beric and the Brotherhood, where they are, how many of them are there, etc. Its seeing that torture that makes Arya want to kill him. Seems odd that they'll introduce the Tickler (which they kind of have to) without first giving the viewers information about the brotherhood and why Amory Lorch wants to find them.

In ACoK:
Amory: "we're looking for Beric"
Yoren: "he's not here"
Amory: "open up"
Yoren: "no"
*fight*
Tickler: "where's Beric?" "where's Beric?" "where's Beric?"...

In the TV show:
Amory: "we're looking for Gendry"
Yoren: "attack!"
*fight*
Tickler: "where's Beric?" "where's Beric?" "where's Beric?" ?????

wouldn't make as much sense.

I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
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