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SPOILER WARNING If you only watch the show, this thread will spoil you of future events in HBO's Game of Thrones. Thread contains discussion of all books of the series A Song of Ice and Fire
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PepsiMaxxxx
Profile Joined October 2012
Sweden5452 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-25 16:47:56
July 25 2016 16:47 GMT
#14241
They should have killed Arya instead.


Would waif!
Wuster
Profile Joined May 2011
1974 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-30 18:27:40
September 30 2016 18:25 GMT
#14242
So, are people here still following the book news?

Apple just announced an enhanced edition to the digital book release. It's getting decent reviews, though I'll pass.

It also contains a preview chapter for Winds of Winter - Mercy. Which was already spoiled, but makes sense, since it's one of the spoiled chapters that was pretty faithfully adapted* into the last season of the TV show (rather than say any of the Arianne / Sansa spoiler chapters).

Seems like it's about courting show watchers to pick up the book I guess?

* well a character swap took place
jxx
Profile Joined April 2010
Brazil307 Posts
October 01 2016 02:26 GMT
#14243
What book news? There hasn't been anything new for months now. I was hoping TWOW would be finished this year but we're at the last quarter and nothing.
Spaylz
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan1743 Posts
July 18 2017 03:25 GMT
#14244
Is this thread no longer viable for show-only discussions? I realize the other thread is more popular, but this one mostly had insight from book readers which sometimes made for interesting discussion.
I like words.
LennX
Profile Joined October 2010
4572 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-18 04:25:30
July 18 2017 04:24 GMT
#14245
The problem is we don't even know where the TV series is merging the book characters if any and we may never find out. Most of the unresolved theories can be discussed about in the pure TV thread. I cant remember any major book only stuff that may appear in the TV series.

With only 6 more episodes, I am waiting to be surprised but I don't expected much. It is blockbusterish but the rewatchablity falls. Arya opening scene while good was dragged out, same with Daenrys ending scene.

Random thoughts - Jamie will be a queenslayer, Jamie X Brie, Tormund is a red herring, 2 different wars fought as Westeros is split (war of the north vs ice, war of the south vs fire), Sansa plot line is finally more interesting compared to plot armour Arya, Sam feels like a Harry Potter spinoff, Whose left in Kings landing if Jamie is forced to return to Casterly Rock or the war in the north?

Please die Littlefinger but you will survive and become the most powerful person just to piss me off.
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TheFish7
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States2824 Posts
July 18 2017 15:51 GMT
#14246
We may still get UnCat. Other than that I think we're all out of book stuff.
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Hyperbola
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2554 Posts
July 18 2017 16:18 GMT
#14247
On July 19 2017 00:51 TheFish7 wrote:
We may still get UnCat. Other than that I think we're all out of book stuff.

Not gonna happen unfortunately.
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KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14912 Posts
July 18 2017 18:59 GMT
#14248
On July 19 2017 00:51 TheFish7 wrote:
We may still get UnCat. Other than that I think we're all out of book stuff.



DOnt kid yourself this plot line is way over
saddaromma
Profile Joined April 2013
1129 Posts
August 01 2017 04:49 GMT
#14249
I was wondering is there a reason to wait for Winds of winter. TV show seem to finish way earlier and everything will be spoilered.
PandaRed
Profile Joined June 2016
France58 Posts
August 01 2017 07:10 GMT
#14250
On August 01 2017 13:49 saddaromma wrote:
I was wondering is there a reason to wait for Winds of winter. TV show seem to finish way earlier and everything will be spoilered.


The books are different from the show (more characters in the books + some events only in books or TV). The two stories could have totally different ending.
"Everyone must forget the words CARRY/SUPPORT/GANKER, this is all rubbish. If you want to be useful, to win the game, you must play on all heroes, instead of crying like a baby when you have to play carry" - Puppey
way2mash4u
Profile Joined January 2013
Germany183 Posts
August 01 2017 11:46 GMT
#14251
I don't want to believe that the coming books will be anything like the show.
Laurens
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium4558 Posts
August 01 2017 11:47 GMT
#14252
I don't think it'll be that different. Martin gave them the ending, I don't think they'll wildly divert from that.

There's a fair few POV book characters that are missing in the show, but some of them have been merged into other characters, i.e. Jon Connington -> Jorah Mormont. Arguably Victarion -> Euron, in any case if Victarion does something really important in the books, they'll probably have Euron do it in the show.

Quentin was a POV but he's already dead.
Lady Stoneheart has probably been replaced by Beric, which is a strange move considering how many Stark fans there are. Perhaps having a mute, disfigured character wasn't appealing enough.

I can't think of many other book characters that are not in the show which could have a big effect on the "endgame". There's (f)Aegon and Arianne, who will end up in the same party in the 6th book, idk how (f)Aegon fits into all of it, perhaps Dany arrives later in Westeros in the books and her entire plot in S7 is Aegon's plot in the 6th book.
Reaps
Profile Joined June 2012
United Kingdom1280 Posts
August 01 2017 11:48 GMT
#14253
No offense but i honestly don't believe he'll get to write the last book, i think we'll get Winds of Winter but the final book is looking very unlikely, hes health is not great from what i heard.
Laurens
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium4558 Posts
August 01 2017 13:25 GMT
#14254
He's 68 and his health is perfectly fine, he's just fat.

The question is whether he can stick to his plan of 7 books, I'm pretty sure it's gonna end up being 8.
Dav1oN
Profile Joined January 2012
Ukraine3164 Posts
August 01 2017 14:03 GMT
#14255
not sure if being fat at 68 means perfectly fine, obesity may cause a heart problems
but personally I wish Martin long live - so we can wait for his next book forever
In memory of Geoff "iNcontroL" Robinson 11.09.1985 - 21.07.2019 A tribute to incredible man, embodiment of joy, esports titan, starcraft community pillar all in one. You will always be remembered!
Hyperbola
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2554 Posts
August 01 2017 17:16 GMT
#14256
On August 01 2017 22:25 Laurens wrote:
He's 68 and his health is perfectly fine, he's just fat.

The question is whether he can stick to his plan of 7 books, I'm pretty sure it's gonna end up being 8.

He is obese. Not even trying to be insensitive here. Heart failure can sneak up on you, especially at that age and at that weight.
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TheFish7
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States2824 Posts
August 01 2017 23:26 GMT
#14257
There's also a seeming recurring pattern of great scifi / fantasy authors dying before finishing their work. Robert Jordan, Frank Herbert, Douglas Adams...
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Broetchenholer
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1967 Posts
August 02 2017 10:41 GMT
#14258
I think the delay now shows a bigger threat then sudden heart failure. I think he has no idea how to wrap up the story on a level he is comfortable with. He has stated several times that he wrote himself in a corner with the kids being too young and especially Daeny being where she is. He might simply not finish anything because he would rather not publish something he is unhappy with.
0x64
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Finland4641 Posts
August 03 2017 09:21 GMT
#14259
I think he is like "ok what the hell are these White Walkers, shit shit shit it sounded so cool when I started this"

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Laurens
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium4558 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-03 10:54:34
August 03 2017 10:54 GMT
#14260
It'd be interesting to know what plotlines he's struggling the most with. He talked briefly about the "Meereenese knot" which caused the delay for the 5th book:

Now I can explain things. It was a confluence of many, many factors: lets start with the offer from Xaro to give Dany ships, the refusal of which then leads to Qarth's declaration of war. Then there's the marriage of Daenerys to pacify the city. Then there's the arrival of the Yunkish army at the gates of Meereen, there's the order of arrival of various people going her way (Tyrion, Quentyn, Victarion, Aegon, Marwyn, etc., and then there's Daario, this dangerous sellsword and the question of whether Dany really wants him or not, there's the plague, there's Drogon's return to Meereen...
All of these things were balls I had thrown up into the air, and they're all linked and chronologically entwined. The return of Drogon to the city was something I explored as happening at different times. For example, I wrote three different versions of Quentyn's arrival at Meereen: one where he arrived long before Dany's marriage, one where he arrived much later, and one where he arrived just the day before the marriage (which is how it ended up being in the novel). And I had to write all three versions to be able to compare and see how these different arrival points affected the stories of the other characters. Including the story of a character who actually hasn't arrived yet.


Would love to read something similar for the 6th, and how many different versions he's written for certain chapters lol.
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