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Hyperbola
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2554 Posts
June 28 2016 03:36 GMT
#14201
On June 28 2016 08:45 Koerage wrote:
Bran won't be able to truly talk to people either, at best they hear the wind rustling leaves when he tries

If he's able to mindfuck them, I'm sure he can manage to make out a few words.
Talking is inefficient anyways. More likely he can just beam information directly into someone's brain.
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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States14003 Posts
June 28 2016 03:42 GMT
#14202
On June 28 2016 12:36 Hyperbola wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2016 08:45 Koerage wrote:
Bran won't be able to truly talk to people either, at best they hear the wind rustling leaves when he tries

If he's able to mindfuck them, I'm sure he can manage to make out a few words.
Talking is inefficient anyways. More likely he can just beam information directly into someone's brain.

Yea just telepathically send jon a gif of Rhaegar and Lyanna fucking.
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Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9331 Posts
June 28 2016 07:51 GMT
#14203
Qyburn killed Pycelle in the show, Varys killed Pycelle in the books. Does it mean Qyburn secretely works for Varys?
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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States14003 Posts
June 28 2016 08:47 GMT
#14204
On June 28 2016 16:51 Sent. wrote:
Qyburn killed Pycelle in the show, Varys killed Pycelle in the books. Does it mean Qyburn secretely works for Varys?

Nah, Qyburn = Varys.

More likely, given the dornish plot what it is Qyburn is actually just a cersei supporter on the show. Pycelle's death is just a nod to readers. Although Pycelle died of a crossbow shot. Kevan was shived to death.
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Koerage
Profile Joined April 2012
Netherlands1220 Posts
June 28 2016 11:08 GMT
#14205
On June 28 2016 12:36 Hyperbola wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2016 08:45 Koerage wrote:
Bran won't be able to truly talk to people either, at best they hear the wind rustling leaves when he tries

If he's able to mindfuck them, I'm sure he can manage to make out a few words.
Talking is inefficient anyways. More likely he can just beam information directly into someone's brain.


you're assuming Bran caused the mad king to go mad then, or what mindfuck are you talking about?
SheaR619
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2399 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-28 12:22:22
June 28 2016 11:34 GMT
#14206
rewatched and I finally see Kevan Lannister died in the Wildfire. People here said it earlier but I guess i missed it since I was focused on Mace Tyrell instead.

My question is what going to happened to the Houses that betray Stark? Will their family title be stripped? Sort of wished they spend a sentence or 2 explaining it in the finale. Also wtf happen to Lord Karstark? Jormund wrecked Umber but we never actually saw what happened to Karstark. Or did I perhap also missed this as well as the battle of the bastard?
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Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9331 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-28 11:56:51
June 28 2016 11:55 GMT
#14207
I bet Umbers and Karstarks will be forgotten in the show, they're pretty much irrelevant now. Don't want to guess how it's going to look like in the books because I'm convinced that the bastardbowl will be something very different there.
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
June 28 2016 13:30 GMT
#14208
On June 28 2016 20:08 Koerage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2016 12:36 Hyperbola wrote:
On June 28 2016 08:45 Koerage wrote:
Bran won't be able to truly talk to people either, at best they hear the wind rustling leaves when he tries

If he's able to mindfuck them, I'm sure he can manage to make out a few words.
Talking is inefficient anyways. More likely he can just beam information directly into someone's brain.


you're assuming Bran caused the mad king to go mad then, or what mindfuck are you talking about?

Hordor, sadly. But I bet that Bran figures out a way to provide people with information without screwing them over. Or he just doesn’t travel backwards and stays in the present, which might not do any damage to people.

But I bet the previous 3 eye raven drove the king mad trying to warn him about the white walkers.
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
June 28 2016 14:17 GMT
#14209
On June 28 2016 22:30 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2016 20:08 Koerage wrote:
On June 28 2016 12:36 Hyperbola wrote:
On June 28 2016 08:45 Koerage wrote:
Bran won't be able to truly talk to people either, at best they hear the wind rustling leaves when he tries

If he's able to mindfuck them, I'm sure he can manage to make out a few words.
Talking is inefficient anyways. More likely he can just beam information directly into someone's brain.


you're assuming Bran caused the mad king to go mad then, or what mindfuck are you talking about?

Hordor, sadly. But I bet that Bran figures out a way to provide people with information without screwing them over. Or he just doesn’t travel backwards and stays in the present, which might not do any damage to people.

But I bet the previous 3 eye raven drove the king mad trying to warn him about the white walkers.

It's possible but i doubt we will ever get any info regarding this, which makes it quite unlikely to begin with.
It would also cheapen the whole situation a lot, so hopefully you are wrong
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
June 28 2016 14:26 GMT
#14210
On June 28 2016 23:17 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2016 22:30 Plansix wrote:
On June 28 2016 20:08 Koerage wrote:
On June 28 2016 12:36 Hyperbola wrote:
On June 28 2016 08:45 Koerage wrote:
Bran won't be able to truly talk to people either, at best they hear the wind rustling leaves when he tries

If he's able to mindfuck them, I'm sure he can manage to make out a few words.
Talking is inefficient anyways. More likely he can just beam information directly into someone's brain.


you're assuming Bran caused the mad king to go mad then, or what mindfuck are you talking about?

Hordor, sadly. But I bet that Bran figures out a way to provide people with information without screwing them over. Or he just doesn’t travel backwards and stays in the present, which might not do any damage to people.

But I bet the previous 3 eye raven drove the king mad trying to warn him about the white walkers.

It's possible but i doubt we will ever get any info regarding this, which makes it quite unlikely to begin with.
It would also cheapen the whole situation a lot, so hopefully you are wrong

Personally, I would leave it up to interpretation and a fan theory. They inter-cut the mad king yelling “burn them all” with the zombies of the north during Bran’s visions scene. And that was right after we found out about Hordor, so the seeds for the theory are there if someone wants it. But it is more fun if they don’t spell it out, so both theories remain equally true. Less is more.
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
June 28 2016 14:37 GMT
#14211
On June 28 2016 23:26 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2016 23:17 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On June 28 2016 22:30 Plansix wrote:
On June 28 2016 20:08 Koerage wrote:
On June 28 2016 12:36 Hyperbola wrote:
On June 28 2016 08:45 Koerage wrote:
Bran won't be able to truly talk to people either, at best they hear the wind rustling leaves when he tries

If he's able to mindfuck them, I'm sure he can manage to make out a few words.
Talking is inefficient anyways. More likely he can just beam information directly into someone's brain.


you're assuming Bran caused the mad king to go mad then, or what mindfuck are you talking about?

Hordor, sadly. But I bet that Bran figures out a way to provide people with information without screwing them over. Or he just doesn’t travel backwards and stays in the present, which might not do any damage to people.

But I bet the previous 3 eye raven drove the king mad trying to warn him about the white walkers.

It's possible but i doubt we will ever get any info regarding this, which makes it quite unlikely to begin with.
It would also cheapen the whole situation a lot, so hopefully you are wrong

Personally, I would leave it up to interpretation and a fan theory. They inter-cut the mad king yelling “burn them all” with the zombies of the north during Bran’s visions scene. And that was right after we found out about Hordor, so the seeds for the theory are there if someone wants it. But it is more fun if they don’t spell it out, so both theories remain equally true. Less is more.

Yeah sure, i can agree with that. I just would dislike it very much if every other big moment in history was influenced by some powerful being. ASOIAF doesn't seem to be the story for that theme.
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TheFish7
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States2824 Posts
June 29 2016 01:28 GMT
#14212
But Hodor is a unique case, being the only human that Brandon has (so far) warged into. Also if I was interpreting the scene correctly, Bran was only actively warging into Hodor in the present. Past Bran was just standing there and presumably Hodor tripped out because of some kind of "echo" effect of Bran also actively greenseering into that time period.
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saddaromma
Profile Joined April 2013
1129 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-30 11:08:35
June 30 2016 11:08 GMT
#14213
I just realized Northerners should ally with Cersei. Since she's good with fire and can fight vs Whitewalkers
snailz
Profile Joined April 2011
Croatia900 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-30 15:58:22
June 30 2016 14:09 GMT
#14214
On June 30 2016 20:08 saddaromma wrote:
I just realized Northerners should ally with Cersei. Since she's good with fire and can fight vs Whitewalkers


eddard stark and the north were roberts closest allies in destruction of house targaryen tho

edit: i just saw u said cersei, not dany. ROFL ^_^
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Bigtony
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1606 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-30 19:52:05
June 30 2016 19:51 GMT
#14215
Low points - night king magically touching bran while he's in a vision and showing up at their cave. Summer randomly jumping on people instead of just running the fuck away with Bran.

Surprise here's Rickon! WTF? How did you find him? Stupid.

No one can get out of the Great Sept hahaha there's like 10 guards here trying to stop everyone hahaha. The fuck

I'm Jon Snow I'm going to charge across the field like an idiot.

Vision flashback pussy out on confirming Jon's parents.
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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44297 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-30 20:27:53
June 30 2016 20:25 GMT
#14216
I'm thinking that the Arya theatre presentation of Ned's death etc might be foreshadowing for the entire of what we know about Robert's rebellion being no more accurate. They could at the very least have taken advantage of that. It's a bit of a reach at the moment but if the same troupe were to show the abduction and rape of Lyanna then we'd be forced to frame what we "know" about the past in the same light as things we know are false.
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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States14003 Posts
June 30 2016 20:32 GMT
#14217
On July 01 2016 04:51 Bigtony wrote:
Low points - night king magically touching bran while he's in a vision and showing up at their cave. Summer randomly jumping on people instead of just running the fuck away with Bran.

Surprise here's Rickon! WTF? How did you find him? Stupid.

No one can get out of the Great Sept hahaha there's like 10 guards here trying to stop everyone hahaha. The fuck

I'm Jon Snow I'm going to charge across the field like an idiot.

Vision flashback pussy out on confirming Jon's parents.

In season 3 or 4 osha took rickon to the Umbers. So that wasnt completely random.
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Wuster
Profile Joined May 2011
1974 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-30 22:01:52
June 30 2016 22:01 GMT
#14218
On July 01 2016 05:25 KwarK wrote:
I'm thinking that the Arya theatre presentation of Ned's death etc might be foreshadowing for the entire of what we know about Robert's rebellion being no more accurate. They could at the very least have taken advantage of that. It's a bit of a reach at the moment but if the same troupe were to show the abduction and rape of Lyanna then we'd be forced to frame what we "know" about the past in the same light as things we know are false.


That's a really good point. It got me thinking, and it turns out they've used this trope a bit, just never as overtly as this season with the play. It's kind of alluded to in the books with Sam talking to Jon about all the places history must be wrong after reading the library at Castle Black too.

Quite a lot of people assume Lyanna wasn't abducted already, so that could be another revision we see in the later books/series, but we've seen it happen quite a few times already.

The first step in Jaime's rehabilitation is his reveal that he killed Aerys to save King's Landing and not because he was looking out for the Lannister's interests (fwiw, he'll always be the guy who threw a kid out a window to me, and the show compounded this arc by having him murder his own cousin).

Then literally years later we're told that no, Cersei didn't send an assassin after Bran, nor did she have anything to do with Jon Arryn's death. But it's too late, the seeds of conflict from those assumptions have already taken root both in other character actions and how much fans hate Cersei.

So, if they do start talking about Robert's Rebellion (and they certainly have a chance with Dany coming back to confront the 'Usurper and his dogs') it'll be interesting if they start dropping more bombs.
B-royal
Profile Joined May 2015
Belgium1330 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-05 05:10:49
July 05 2016 05:09 GMT
#14219
Just a random question, but does anyone know why Balon Greyjoy is referred to as the "Lord Reaper" of the iron islands when the ironborn are in my opinion all about reaving?

As far as I know reaping means to cut or gather crop often with a scythe, presumably also the reason why death is referred to as the Grim Reaper.

I understand the relation of reaping and their words "we do not sow" but still think Lord Reaver would be a more fitting name. Because let's face it.. How far apart are sowing and plowing fields from reaping the harvest? It's still both the work of peasants not really fitting for the ironborn.

Does anyone feel the same way?

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snailz
Profile Joined April 2011
Croatia900 Posts
July 06 2016 23:54 GMT
#14220
On July 05 2016 14:09 B-royal wrote:
Just a random question, but does anyone know why Balon Greyjoy is referred to as the "Lord Reaper" of the iron islands when the ironborn are in my opinion all about reaving?

As far as I know reaping means to cut or gather crop often with a scythe, presumably also the reason why death is referred to as the Grim Reaper.

I understand the relation of reaping and their words "we do not sow" but still think Lord Reaver would be a more fitting name. Because let's face it.. How far apart are sowing and plowing fields from reaping the harvest? It's still both the work of peasants not really fitting for the ironborn.

Does anyone feel the same way?



when i first heard it, i thought it was derogatory, alluding to the fact that ironborn got rekt by northerners and with their rebellion squashed, were forced to sow, therefore reap.

but on wiki i read its an honorary title, not specifically for balon but for house greyjoy ruling in pyke. so their family motto "we do not sow" plus old saying "You reap what you sow", implies they have to be bad motherfuckers to be able to reap without actually sowing anything...
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