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DickMcFanny
Ireland1076 Posts
On June 28 2016 00:39 KwarK wrote: There is always a legitimate heir if you go back far enough and we saw in season 1 how detailed the genealogies are. Would be very weird to make Robert's ancestors heirs to the throne. It makes sense to pass the throne on to his youngers (not sure what the opposite of elders is), but not to his elders. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On June 28 2016 00:39 KwarK wrote: There is always a legitimate heir if you go back far enough and we saw in season 1 how detailed the genealogies are. "Legitimate" is such a strange term at this point in the process. I am sure that someone will argue that some random Baratheon should be king, but I am sure another lord would challenge it saying that they have lost their right to the throne by entering into a deal with the Lannisters so long ago. Or that no one would follow them. Whatever mandate the currently linage had, it blew up in the last episode. But this is why the show is the way it is, that monarchy has this flaw that everyone has a claim to the throne. | ||
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andrewlt
United States7702 Posts
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daemir
Finland8662 Posts
On June 27 2016 23:19 Jalle wrote: For all of Cersei's shortmindedness, blowing up the sept was actually a great, although desperate, move on her part. In one fell swoop she not only managed to save her skin, but also get rid of the Tyrells and the faith militant. Best possible outcome. In the short run at least. Except, she didn't get rid of the Tyrells. She got rid of 3 of them, but Olenna was not there and will lead her banners to aid Dany. If anything, she managed to finally make Tyrells her enemies instead of very uneasy allies. | ||
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farvacola
United States18831 Posts
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
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SK.Testie
Canada11084 Posts
May Dany's dragons die. May Jon fail. Long live the queen. | ||
KwarK
United States42883 Posts
On June 28 2016 01:01 daemir wrote: Except, she didn't get rid of the Tyrells. She got rid of 3 of them, but Olenna was not there and will lead her banners to aid Dany. If anything, she managed to finally make Tyrells her enemies instead of very uneasy allies. Olenna is most likely Tyrell by marriage only. It's possible Mace's grandfather had only daughters and therefore the line had to pass through Olenna but if it's not specified we should assume that the line passes through male and therefore Olenna married into the Tyrell line rather than it going directly through her. Mace was most likely lord because his father was, not because of who his father married. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
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farvacola
United States18831 Posts
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SK.Testie
Canada11084 Posts
The fact that she's so good would make it all the more satisfying to have her win. None of the other actors could have a winning look like she could. Jon's plain face. Sansa cold and hardened. Dany the uninspiring. Despite the countless people kneeling to her she's never had any presence on screen. Only Cersei could deliver a great look of triumph after winning the throne. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
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SheaR619
United States2399 Posts
I had always thought that other queen was Margery but it turn out it is going to be Dany. Then her death is going to come from her younger brother which might actually still be Tyrion. Jamie still possible but with Dany coming, Tyrion is possible. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
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zf
231 Posts
And no one frowns like Lena Headey. | ||
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Sent.
Poland9204 Posts
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KOFgokuon
United States14896 Posts
On June 28 2016 01:17 KwarK wrote: Olenna is most likely Tyrell by marriage only. It's possible Mace's grandfather had only daughters and therefore the line had to pass through Olenna but if it's not specified we should assume that the line passes through male and therefore Olenna married into the Tyrell line rather than it going directly through her. Mace was most likely lord because his father was, not because of who his father married. She's a redwyne by birth, she also has multiple children, one of whom is married to lord paxter redwyne | ||
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SheaR619
United States2399 Posts
Well Jamie and Tyrion are both younger brother supposedly so they both are candidate for potentially killing Cersei. Everyone sort of figured it was Jamie since Tyrion escaped Westeros but now that he coming back, making him kill Cersei would be quiet a shocker now that everyone expected Jamie to do it. Personally, I am predicting Cersei to be cornered by Dany army and being forced to about to use the Wildfire to finish off Kings Landing causing Jamie to come kill her. Only to not be able to kill her due to love and Tyrion show up with a crossbow and end her. | ||
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
The show does things differently guys. | ||
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DickMcFanny
Ireland1076 Posts
Jaime's been struggling with people questioning his honour for a while now, at least since late season one / AGoT, and he always defended his deed for it being the right thing to do, right? He betrayed his vows, but he saved a lot of people from the Mad King. Aerys lost his war, but he insisted on taking the city down with him. Now I think that Jaime will have to face his demons again in season 7, show some remorse for his act, but in the very act he will proove that, given the chance, he would do it again. Kill the Mad King (or queen) to save thousands of lives. | ||
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