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SPOILER WARNING If you only watch the show, this thread will spoil you of future events in HBO's Game of Thrones. Thread contains discussion of all books of the series A Song of Ice and Fire
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blkcoffee
Profile Joined May 2016
35 Posts
May 29 2016 21:07 GMT
#13821
So for me, I love a really efficient book, one in which you don't have wasted scenes or dialogue that doesn't really lead anywhere. It's why I think in Harry potter book 6 is so sick as fuck because it's all so tight.

not sure where ASOIAF ranks, like some of the books were tight but feast for crows seemed not as like solid. Dragons was sick though
haitike
Profile Joined June 2009
Spain2744 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-29 21:18:27
May 29 2016 21:17 GMT
#13822
On May 29 2016 22:10 Sholip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2016 20:31 haitike wrote:
I think 3 first books are quite better than 4/5. The last two books have so much filler and boring arcs.

There seems to be a consensus that the first and third books are great. I personally didn't like Clash and hated Feast, but I think Dance was great again. Most people seem to dislike Dance, though...


I liked Clash back then because I liked King's Landing Tyrion chapters, but maybe today I would not love it too much if I re-read it.

Dance is much better than Feast. I love a lot of arcs and it is an great book. But I think that the book could be even better with a little less side histories and more advance in main ones.

The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
May 29 2016 23:56 GMT
#13823
And i think AFFC might be the best book in the series


On another note, GRRM apparently read a new TWOW chapter: Aeron 'Damphair' Greyjoy
Some sick stuff in there!
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SwARmZzz
Profile Joined June 2013
Canada193 Posts
May 30 2016 01:06 GMT
#13824
COLDHANDS!?!?!??!
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32754 Posts
May 30 2016 01:49 GMT
#13825
TV Coldhands is Benjen hmm.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
TheFish7
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States2824 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-30 01:59:53
May 30 2016 01:57 GMT
#13826
Guess Coldhands wasn't so old after all?

Oh and Arya leaving is pretty unexpected to me. I hope she doesn't end up in some dumb house of the undying-like nonsense where she takes over the whole faceless men by killing Jaqen H'ghar
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blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
May 30 2016 02:08 GMT
#13827
On May 30 2016 10:57 TheFish7 wrote:
Guess Coldhands wasn't so old after all?

Oh and Arya leaving is pretty unexpected to me. I hope she doesn't end up in some dumb house of the undying-like nonsense where she takes over the whole faceless men by killing Jaqen H'ghar


I don't think so. God if that happened that would be dumb. Unless they somehow can make it cool, but I don't think so. I think she's going to kill the trainer chick and get away with the actors.
When I think of something else, something will go here
Hyperbola
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2554 Posts
May 30 2016 03:23 GMT
#13828
So... Benjen is Coldhands, Jon is all but confirmed to be a Targarayan, and the Cleaganbowl is probably happening.

Are D&D really just pandering to fans and making all these theories come true in order to increase popularity? I can't imagine GRRM writing anything so contrived in his books.
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PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32754 Posts
May 30 2016 03:45 GMT
#13829
On May 30 2016 12:23 Hyperbola wrote:
So... Benjen is Coldhands, Jon is all but confirmed to be a Targarayan, and the Cleaganbowl is probably happening.

Are D&D really just pandering to fans and making all these theories come true in order to increase popularity? I can't imagine GRRM writing anything so contrived in his books.

L+R=J is something GRRM had in mind since the beginning, and Benjen being Coldhands wouldn't be too farfetched even if Coldhands denied it. After all, you can't just leave a Stark with their story thread incomplete or without a proper resolution. Cleganebowl might not happen depending on whether the survival theory for the Hound stands as true.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
malcram
Profile Joined November 2010
2752 Posts
May 30 2016 04:10 GMT
#13830
D&D cast mass revive on house stark. Gotta bring back all the starks
Necro)Phagist(
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada6660 Posts
May 30 2016 04:14 GMT
#13831
I think we might get Lady Stonheart this season or early next. They hinted at the Brotherhood without Banners, Jaime and Brienne are heading to the Riverlands for their respective story lines. Maybe the beloved character Ian Mcshane brings back isn't the hound but is Catelyn? A bit of a stretch considering he seems to fit the brother more and Thoros has already been cast so why would they need him.

But something about them suddenly showing the Freys and mentioning the Brotherhood while talking about Brienne going to the Riverlands makes me think that is what they are hinting at. Kind of like a refresher of what happened before bringing her back.
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KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14912 Posts
May 30 2016 04:30 GMT
#13832
they've hinted at LSH for 3 seasons people need to give it up
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
May 30 2016 06:47 GMT
#13833
That dany scene is probably from the book while the fire one was d&d.
dudeman001
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2412 Posts
May 30 2016 07:24 GMT
#13834
I for one am psyched to see Arya avoid being murdered by a faceless man.
Sup.
Spaylz
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan1743 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-30 08:29:26
May 30 2016 08:26 GMT
#13835
Not too fond of this episode. It had interesting moments, but overall pretty meh. It all felt very... anticlimactic. And so dark, sheesh. I feel like I could barely see the whole episode. It's all too dark.

I liked Hornhill, though I don't understand why Sam would drag Gilly all the way there only to leave on an impulse right after and take Heartsbane. Heartsbane is supposed to be huge too! But the actor playing Randyll nailed it, in my opinion. I hope we see more of him.

That being said, the end with Dany felt off somehow. It felt like a scene right out of Jurassic Park. I also feel like the dialogue really has taken a hit in quality, but I may be biased and nitpicky. That was a huge moment in Dany's arc, when she finally decides to sail West and sets her mind on conquering instead of ruling. And it felt a bit... flat.

BUT what I do not like is King's Landing's plot. Now THAT was anticlimactic, and I really really hate Jaime now. He was such an interesting character, and he really has done a complete 360 back to who he was before. That infuriates me. I truly hope they fix that with the Riverlands.

Oh and lastly, Benjen = Coldhands in the show, yeah. In the books, it's not true though. I remember reading about a book fan who went to some library in California and found a version of ADWD with notes from GRRM's editor where she asks "Is Coldhands Benjen?" and GRRM answers with a blunt "No" written to the side. Article here.

Also was that the same actor for Edmure Tully? I genuinely did not recognise him.
I like words.
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-30 09:41:48
May 30 2016 09:39 GMT
#13836
Holy..was that Horn Hill? A bit more grand than I expected out of a lesser House. Geez.

Also, Samwell the son, blond hair, both Sam and Gilly looking pretty dark haired there, not suspicious? I confess I don't really know how these things work, but...
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-30 10:32:48
May 30 2016 10:32 GMT
#13837
What exactly is the purpose of keeping Arya alive for too much longer

That character isn't going anywhere
Sholip
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
Hungary422 Posts
May 30 2016 11:01 GMT
#13838
On May 30 2016 19:32 Talin wrote:
What exactly is the purpose of keeping Arya alive for too much longer

That character isn't going anywhere

I think the idea is, she goes back to KL and kills people with his newfound skills
That is, if she doesn't die somewhere halfway...

Also, Coldhands = Benjen is quite interesting. I'm beginning to wonder if GRRM wrote that "No" on his scripts just to screw everyone over...
"A hero is no braver than an ordinary man, but he is brave five minutes longer. Also, Zest is best." – Ralph Waldo Emerson
snailz
Profile Joined April 2011
Croatia900 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-30 18:04:12
May 30 2016 11:19 GMT
#13839
the guy nobody recognised isnt just a "nephew", he's the rightful ruler of all riverlands, edmure tully. if he dies, blackfish would be next in line i guess, but for now, he's a pretty big bargaining chip as is...
"I am saying that there are 300 current pros and semi-pros that have the potential to come in and dominate SC2 at any moment, with a latency of a few months from the day they switch." - intrigue
Yhamm
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
France7248 Posts
May 30 2016 11:53 GMT
#13840
Benjen = Coldhands in the show feels like total fanservice and a way to bring a Stark back in the story. We know it's not true in the books, and I really don't think it will change.

I highly doubt that what happens in King's Landing will happen in the book. Margaery joining the High Sparrow, Jaime removed from the Kingsguard... nope. I think they are making the High Sparrow a much bigger player than he will really be in the books, but I might be wrong.

I think the episode was fine, and even if the speech from Dany wasn't great, I can totally see this happening in the books when she is found at the end of ADWD
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