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On May 30 2016 20:53 Yhamm wrote:
Benjen = Coldhands in the show feels like total fanservice and a way to bring a Stark back in the story. We know it's not true in the books, and I really don't think it will change.
I highly doubt that what happens in King's Landing will happen in the book. Margaery joining the High Sparrow, Jaime removed from the Kingsguard... nope. I think they are making the High Sparrow a much bigger player than he will really be in the books, but I might be wrong.
I think the episode was fine, and even if the speech from Dany wasn't great, I can totally see this happening in the books when she is found at the end of ADWD
Do you think the whole Vaes Dothrak plot won't happen in the books at all? I haven't really thought about this so far, but I guess this Dany scene ended about the same as ADwD.
Still, it would feel a bit weird... like random dragon lady emerging from nowhere, and suddenly the whole khal follows her?
...well now that I think about it, pretty much the same happened in Vaes Dothrak in the show, so maybe...
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France7248 Posts
Well, in the book the Khal found her with Drogon and that's a big difference, so she might just gain this guy for her cause, and not all the Dothraki
and if she then goes to Vaes Dothrak, I don't think she will have to kill anyone
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The fleet arriving to bring Dany over the seas in the books is also a lot smaller, so her having only one khalasar would make more sense in the books. In the show Euron is building a thousand ships, but in the books Victarion is approaching with less than a hundred.
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On May 30 2016 20:01 Sholip wrote:Show nested quote +On May 30 2016 19:32 Talin wrote:
What exactly is the purpose of keeping Arya alive for too much longer
That character isn't going anywhere I think the idea is, she goes back to KL and kills people with his newfound skills  That is, if she doesn't die somewhere halfway... Also, Coldhands = Benjen is quite interesting. I'm beginning to wonder if GRRM wrote that "No" on his scripts just to screw everyone over...
It could be she kills characters Varys did in the books. It could be she kills Tommen as well.
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On May 30 2016 22:24 Yhamm wrote:
Well, in the book the Khal found her with Drogon and that's a big difference, so she might just gain this guy for her cause, and not all the Dothraki
and if she then goes to Vaes Dothrak, I don't think she will have to kill anyone
Yep i think this is plausible too. But who knows really??
Anyone read the summary of the new Aeron chapter??
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I'm very disappointed with this episode. It wasn't bad quality-wise but all these events are just unbelievable (besides Tommen, his actions are understandable). In my opinion Arya's plotline just surpassed Bran's in the worst plotline of the show category. It's like some cringeworthy anime and I wouldn't be surprised if she started dual wielding in the dark in the next episode.
Margeary is lying, r-right guys?
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On May 31 2016 00:03 The_Red_Viper wrote:Show nested quote +On May 30 2016 22:24 Yhamm wrote:
Well, in the book the Khal found her with Drogon and that's a big difference, so she might just gain this guy for her cause, and not all the Dothraki
and if she then goes to Vaes Dothrak, I don't think she will have to kill anyone Yep i think this is plausible too. But who knows really?? Anyone read the summary of the new Aeron chapter??
Yeah that shit was great,
+ Show Spoiler +Valyrian steel Armor ? More visions ? get hype
Really wish Arya's arc could hurry the fuck up
Also, I really don't mind Benjen = Coldhands. People thought it made sense enough to make it into a plausible popular theory before it was debunked by GRRM, but now that D&D does it suddenly it's fan service, doesn't hold up, garbage ? If George had written it you guys would have praised it as brilliant story telling...
Dany's ending is fucking random, "oh yea just strolling around, let me get on my dragon so I can make a speech". But I kinda liked the words used. She wants to rule the Seven Kingdoms but tells her army to tear down their houses and kill them all .... hum 
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For anyone who wants to read it, here it is: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1VuqHngBpOZ1p0jqkD7xRTCHExMFwBa8qE7VCLsKXzxU/edit
+ Show Spoiler +Yeah valyrian steel armor :o, If Dany really falls for Euron there is zero chance she won't be seen as a villain in westeros, no? I want the book so badly -.-
Also, I really don't mind Benjen = Coldhands. People thought it made sense enough to make it into a plausible popular theory before it was debunked by GRRM, but now that D&D does it suddenly it's fan service, doesn't hold up, garbage ? If George had written it you guys would have praised it as brilliant story telling...
That implies that popular fan theories always make sense. I don't agree with that
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On May 31 2016 00:44 The_Red_Viper wrote:For anyone who wants to read it, here it is: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1VuqHngBpOZ1p0jqkD7xRTCHExMFwBa8qE7VCLsKXzxU/edit + Show Spoiler +Yeah valyrian steel armor :o, If Dany really falls for Euron there is zero chance she won't be seen as a villain in westeros, no? I want the book so badly -.- Show nested quote +Also, I really don't mind Benjen = Coldhands. People thought it made sense enough to make it into a plausible popular theory before it was debunked by GRRM, but now that D&D does it suddenly it's fan service, doesn't hold up, garbage ? If George had written it you guys would have praised it as brilliant story telling...
That implies that popular fan theories always make sense. I don't agree with that
yeah definitely but I meant that people thought it made sense haha it wasn't a D+D=T level theory and it's an older theory, from the early days of Dance, when people didn't make completely random stories based on fucking "oily black stones"
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I find it pretty weird by Tommen to embrace the High Sparrow. I mean the High Sparrow is pushing charges towards Cersei (and Jamie) that if convicted will get both her, Jamie and himself to be executed (Not sure in Tommens case, at the very least he no longer have a claim to the throne). I mean Tommen must understand what is going right?
And with how Jamie is devolving I am not a fan of what is going on in KL right now. I guess Cleganebowl will be awesome if they go through with it.
Overall a not that interesting episode.
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On May 31 2016 00:56 Gullis wrote:
I find it pretty weird by Tommen to embrace the High Sparrow. I mean the High Sparrow is pushing charges towards Cersei (and Jamie) that if convicted will get both her, Jamie and himself to be executed (Not sure in Tommens case, at the very least he no longer have a claim to the throne). I mean Tommen must understand what is going right?
And with how Jamie is devolving I am not a fan of what is going on in KL right now. I guess Cleganebowl will be awesome if they go through with it.
Overall a not that interesting episode.
The HS is pressing charge of adultery for Cersei and Lancel sleeping together. Jaime and Tommen aren't involved (yet), but I agree that Jaime's story has gone to shit. It was nice in the books to see him get away from Cersei and him finally tearing her letter, a great fuck yeah moment. Now if they go that route it will feel rushed and random, and also underserved since Jaime doesn't know shit about Cersei
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On May 31 2016 00:57 SpiZe wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2016 00:56 Gullis wrote:
I find it pretty weird by Tommen to embrace the High Sparrow. I mean the High Sparrow is pushing charges towards Cersei (and Jamie) that if convicted will get both her, Jamie and himself to be executed (Not sure in Tommens case, at the very least he no longer have a claim to the throne). I mean Tommen must understand what is going right?
And with how Jamie is devolving I am not a fan of what is going on in KL right now. I guess Cleganebowl will be awesome if they go through with it.
Overall a not that interesting episode. The HS is pressing charge of adultery for Cersei and Lancel, Jaime and Tommen aren't involved (yet), but I agree that Jaime's story has gone to shit. It was nice in the books to see him get away from Cersei and him finally tearing her letter, a great fuck yeah moment. Now if they go that route it will feel rushed and random, and also underserved since Jaime doesn't know shit about Cersei
Hmm then my memory is failing me. I thought she did the walk of shame because she was with Lancel.
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On May 31 2016 01:08 Gullis wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2016 00:57 SpiZe wrote:On May 31 2016 00:56 Gullis wrote:
I find it pretty weird by Tommen to embrace the High Sparrow. I mean the High Sparrow is pushing charges towards Cersei (and Jamie) that if convicted will get both her, Jamie and himself to be executed (Not sure in Tommens case, at the very least he no longer have a claim to the throne). I mean Tommen must understand what is going right?
And with how Jamie is devolving I am not a fan of what is going on in KL right now. I guess Cleganebowl will be awesome if they go through with it.
Overall a not that interesting episode. The HS is pressing charge of adultery for Cersei and Lancel, Jaime and Tommen aren't involved (yet), but I agree that Jaime's story has gone to shit. It was nice in the books to see him get away from Cersei and him finally tearing her letter, a great fuck yeah moment. Now if they go that route it will feel rushed and random, and also underserved since Jaime doesn't know shit about Cersei Hmm then my memory is failing me. I thought she did the walk of shame because she was with Lancel.
Yeah She did, sorry. My sentence was I failure. I should have wrote "for Cersei and Lancel. Jaime and Tommen " and not a comma. LOL my bad syntax fail ^^
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I'm so glad we had 10 episodes of Arya going through boring training involving being beating by wooden stick over and over again to join the Nameless, just to end up throwing all that away due to finding her victim likeable.
Please, more of such top notch story writting.
At least they got me rooting for Cersei and against that fucker Sparrow, never though I'd see that happening.
Oh btw, was there anything new in that rapid flashbacks Bran was having?
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On May 31 2016 04:04 Odoakar wrote:
At least they got me rooting for Cersei and against that fucker Sparrow, never though I'd see that happening.
Yup. You know how much people want Ramsay to die? That's roughly how much I want High Sparrow's head lobbed off his shoulders.
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France7248 Posts
On May 31 2016 04:04 Odoakar wrote:
I'm so glad we had 10 episodes of Arya going through boring training involving being beating by wooden stick over and over again to join the Nameless, just to end up throwing all that away due to finding her victim likeable.
Please, more of such top notch story writting.
I actually liked it. It show she can't/not ready to kill innocent people, and I can't see it as a bad point for a child. She was pretty much going on the dark path before that
On May 31 2016 04:04 Odoakar wrote:
Oh btw, was there anything new in that rapid flashbacks Bran was having?
all the scenes with wildfire and mad aerys and jaime killing the mad king
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On May 31 2016 00:24 Sent. wrote:
I'm very disappointed with this episode. It wasn't bad quality-wise but all these events are just unbelievable (besides Tommen, his actions are understandable). In my opinion Arya's plotline just surpassed Bran's in the worst plotline of the show category. It's like some cringeworthy anime and I wouldn't be surprised if she started dual wielding in the dark in the next episode.
Margeary is lying, r-right guys?
The part with Margeary confused me too. Last episode she was exactly her same old manipulative self when she was talking with the sparrow and then Loras. It makes no sense that she would change that fast, I think she's using the sparrow to push out the Lannisters. She's probably underestimating them though.
On May 31 2016 04:04 Odoakar wrote:
I'm so glad we had 10 episodes of Arya going through boring training involving being beating by wooden stick over and over again to join the Nameless, just to end up throwing all that away due to finding her victim likeable.
Please, more of such top notch story writting.
Personally I think this makes sense, I never once got the impression that she was prepared to truly give up her identity. The whole reason she joined in the first place was for vengeance. Plus the Faceless guys are legit a cult.
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I would just like to remind everyone that HBO cut the kingsmoot short and butchered Euron's character just so that we have enough time for more Dany speeches, theater scenes and cgi spooky skeletons. That is all.
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On May 30 2016 18:39 daemir wrote:
Holy..was that Horn Hill? A bit more grand than I expected out of a lesser House. Geez.
Also, Samwell the son, blond hair, both Sam and Gilly looking pretty dark haired there, not suspicious? I confess I don't really know how these things work, but...
Tarlys are meant to be the second richest house after the Lannisters and smug as fuck about the fact that they have a Targ sword and the Lannisters don't. It looked fine.
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On May 31 2016 06:50 politik wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2016 00:24 Sent. wrote:
I'm very disappointed with this episode. It wasn't bad quality-wise but all these events are just unbelievable (besides Tommen, his actions are understandable). In my opinion Arya's plotline just surpassed Bran's in the worst plotline of the show category. It's like some cringeworthy anime and I wouldn't be surprised if she started dual wielding in the dark in the next episode.
Margeary is lying, r-right guys? The part with Margeary confused me too. Last episode she was exactly her same old manipulative self when she was talking with the sparrow and then Loras. It makes no sense that she would change that fast, I think she's using the sparrow to push out the Lannisters. She's probably underestimating them though.
She has no news from the outside, she had no idea that her family were coming for her with soldiers, she was doing her best to play her husband and the High Sparrow with what she had.
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