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SPOILER WARNING If you only watch the show, this thread will spoil you of future events in HBO's Game of Thrones. Thread contains discussion of all books of the series A Song of Ice and Fire
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-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-28 10:15:01
May 28 2012 10:14 GMT
#2561
On May 28 2012 04:31 Conti wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2012 09:52 -Archangel- wrote:
On May 25 2012 08:58 Conti wrote:
Stolen from the other thread:
On May 25 2012 08:24 BroOd wrote:
Didn't see this posted yet. A solid, somber take on the song:

The National - The Rains of Castamere

Holy crap. This is so. damn. good.

Actually it is pretty bad. Bad voice, bad melody.

I love how you hate absolutely everything to do with the show.

Lol where did you get this idea? I loved Season 1 and most of Season 2. But ep 7 and 8 they fucked up good (and some in ep 6). And this song was done bad, there is no way around it. It is a good song from the books but this version just sound bad.
arew
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Lithuania1861 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-28 11:15:25
May 28 2012 11:04 GMT
#2562
Did Tyrion die in the episode "Blackwater" ? Is he alive?
750/750 emotions fully stacked
befek
Profile Joined September 2010
Poland413 Posts
May 28 2012 11:20 GMT
#2563
On May 28 2012 20:04 arew wrote:
Did Tyrion die in the episode "Blackwater" ? Is he alive?

He is alive after the battle but severly wounded.
Dan "Artosis" Stark: Roaches are coming, Game of Drones begins!
Sanjuro
Profile Joined November 2010
Indonesia252 Posts
May 28 2012 11:23 GMT
#2564
The song is really chilling if you think about it, it tells about the story of the rebellion of the House Reyne of Castamere against lord Tytos Lannister, Tywin Lannister's father, Both Houses have lions for their sigil. Lannister on the left, and Reyne on the right, one gold one red.

[image loading]

Because of his father considered weak, Tywin Lannister took control of the Lannister armies and exterminated House Reyne. The verse And so he spoke, and so he spoke. That lord of Castamere, But now the rains weep over his hall
With no one there to hear. Yes now the rains weep over his hall, And not a soul to hear
. is a warning to anyone who tries to fight the Lannisters. And using such a simple melody with a Lord Tywin voice (or maybe not him) adds more greatness to the song.
im the Villain of the Story, im not meant to be saved
arew
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Lithuania1861 Posts
May 28 2012 11:43 GMT
#2565
On May 28 2012 20:20 befek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2012 20:04 arew wrote:
Did Tyrion die in the episode "Blackwater" ? Is he alive?

He is alive after the battle but severly wounded.


Ok, thanks a lot!
750/750 emotions fully stacked
Clegane
Profile Joined April 2012
Germany110 Posts
May 28 2012 12:02 GMT
#2566
On May 28 2012 19:14 -Archangel- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2012 04:31 Conti wrote:
On May 27 2012 09:52 -Archangel- wrote:
On May 25 2012 08:58 Conti wrote:
Stolen from the other thread:
On May 25 2012 08:24 BroOd wrote:
Didn't see this posted yet. A solid, somber take on the song:

The National - The Rains of Castamere

Holy crap. This is so. damn. good.

Actually it is pretty bad. Bad voice, bad melody.

I love how you hate absolutely everything to do with the show.

Lol where did you get this idea? I loved Season 1 and most of Season 2. But ep 7 and 8 they fucked up good (and some in ep 6). And this song was done bad, there is no way around it. It is a good song from the books but this version just sound bad.

No.

To answer on the same level like you explain why you don't like it :D


Can't say much about that episode except that it was perfect. I had lowered my expectations to a minimum because I don't believe guys talking about "This episode we produced is so good" but apparently they were right. Loved every scene. And I'm so glad they gave the Hound so much screentime this time.
Jankisa
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Croatia1392 Posts
May 28 2012 12:04 GMT
#2567
On May 28 2012 20:23 Sanjuro wrote:
The song is really chilling if you think about it, it tells about the story of the rebellion of the House Reyne of Castamere against lord Tytos Lannister, Tywin Lannister's father, Both Houses have lions for their sigil. Lannister on the left, and Reyne on the right, one gold one red.

[image loading]

Because of his father considered weak, Tywin Lannister took control of the Lannister armies and exterminated House Reyne. The verse And so he spoke, and so he spoke. That lord of Castamere, But now the rains weep over his hall
With no one there to hear. Yes now the rains weep over his hall, And not a soul to hear
. is a warning to anyone who tries to fight the Lannisters. And using such a simple melody with a Lord Tywin voice (or maybe not him) adds more greatness to the song.


That is so fucking awesome, so fucking epic that they sing it before the battle, and when it starts playing at the red wedding it will blow peoples mind.

Hope someone in the show says the story in the future, preferably in the red wedding episode.

On to the episode. It was by far the best one of both he season and the series so far, maybe the best piece of TV I have ever seen. The writing, the atmosphere, the build up , the visuals and especially the acting was mind blowing.

The hound was insanely good with his fear of nothing but fire and fuck the king attitude, Joeffry showed him self as the chicken he is, Cersey was great in both the book scenes with Sansa and the added one with Tommen on the throne. Seems like they merged Lorases and his brothers role in the battle, so he's wearing Renly's helm and/or armor (shield for sure), witch is good for his character (and he looked bad ass as fuck when he got to the throne room).

I'm so fucking glad Bronn has got so much time this season, he is an amazing actor and his fight scenes and facial expressions this episode where spot on.

Tyrion again stole the show, half man chat literally got me in tears, since for a second he had the respect he always wanted. I don't mind downplaying his role during the preparations, and I think the suicide ship is better than the chain (wildfire looked awesome), and Roy Dotrice (pyromancer/dude who read the audiobooks) was awesome. The parallel of Tyrion's look of dear god I killed so many with fear in his eyes being paralleled with Joeffrys madkingesque let them burn smile was awesome.

Stannis finally gave me a reason to like him, since so far he has been self entitled prick that gave us no reason to believe man would rally behind him and he showed us he is fearless and bad ass as fuck in this episode.
So, are you a pessimist? - On my better days. Are you a nihilist? - Not as much as I should be.
FireSA
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia555 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-28 12:45:21
May 28 2012 12:42 GMT
#2568
I think they did an excellent job developing Cersei, Sansa, Joff, the Hound, and many other characters this episode.

Sure the budget constraints were obvious in some of the fights, sure Stannis was not meant to be there, nor Tywin, sure that scene with Sansa, where was poor Sandor's song (tbh I think he is one of the best written characters without POV in the books, so good), but yknow what, overall it was really really good. Pod is a bit lame atm, but eh.

On a different note have now read the three Tales of Dunk and Egg, it was a fun and relatively straight forward read, nice for anyone who likes to get a better picture of targaryens, and bloodraven, and stuff like that.

Rains of Castamere was great.


EDIT: OMFG THERE ARE AUDIO BOOK VERSIONS READ BY DOTRICE OF 4 and 5? omfg. must find now. I have read all the books, but also heard the first three, and then the fourth..I heard one chapter..and just couldn't.....third audio book was magnificent.
MaYuu
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Sweden516 Posts
May 28 2012 12:58 GMT
#2569
On May 28 2012 21:04 Jankisa wrote:
and Roy Dotrice (pyromancer/dude who read the audiobooks) was awesome..



Woah, didn't know this. I did listen to all the books and Roy added a lot to them. Wish all books would be read by someone like him.
ehh`?
SilverLeagueElite
Profile Joined April 2010
United States626 Posts
May 28 2012 13:25 GMT
#2570
On May 28 2012 14:46 Braric wrote:
Anyone else a bit disappointed with the Sansa and Sandor scene?

Double edged sword of having popular characters/actors. People want more Tyrion, means less time for less popular characters. They've really skimped on Sansa/Sandor interaction.

People wanted more Charles Dance, unfortunately this meant Arya/Jaqen got skimped.
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
May 28 2012 13:35 GMT
#2571
On May 28 2012 19:14 -Archangel- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2012 04:31 Conti wrote:
On May 27 2012 09:52 -Archangel- wrote:
On May 25 2012 08:58 Conti wrote:
Stolen from the other thread:
On May 25 2012 08:24 BroOd wrote:
Didn't see this posted yet. A solid, somber take on the song:

The National - The Rains of Castamere

Holy crap. This is so. damn. good.

Actually it is pretty bad. Bad voice, bad melody.

I love how you hate absolutely everything to do with the show.

Lol where did you get this idea? I loved Season 1 and most of Season 2. But ep 7 and 8 they fucked up good (and some in ep 6). And this song was done bad, there is no way around it. It is a good song from the books but this version just sound bad.


How do you know if a song from a book is good?
Remember Violet.
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
May 28 2012 13:56 GMT
#2572
On May 28 2012 22:35 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2012 19:14 -Archangel- wrote:
On May 28 2012 04:31 Conti wrote:
On May 27 2012 09:52 -Archangel- wrote:
On May 25 2012 08:58 Conti wrote:
Stolen from the other thread:
On May 25 2012 08:24 BroOd wrote:
Didn't see this posted yet. A solid, somber take on the song:

The National - The Rains of Castamere

Holy crap. This is so. damn. good.

Actually it is pretty bad. Bad voice, bad melody.

I love how you hate absolutely everything to do with the show.

Lol where did you get this idea? I loved Season 1 and most of Season 2. But ep 7 and 8 they fucked up good (and some in ep 6). And this song was done bad, there is no way around it. It is a good song from the books but this version just sound bad.


How do you know if a song from a book is good?

Because there are versions out there, which are actually songs:


At the end of the episode it's more like read poetry.
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-28 14:02:29
May 28 2012 14:01 GMT
#2573
He specifically said from the books, though, how do you get that context? How do you criticize something audibly by comparing it to the books?

If he'd said "I've heard better versions" then sure, but effectively saying he's read better versions is a bit silly.

Also wow crap I am in the wrong thread I have not read the books and just clicked on the last button lol. AWAY I GO
Remember Violet.
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-28 14:04:13
May 28 2012 14:03 GMT
#2574
On May 28 2012 19:14 -Archangel- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2012 04:31 Conti wrote:
On May 27 2012 09:52 -Archangel- wrote:
On May 25 2012 08:58 Conti wrote:
Stolen from the other thread:
On May 25 2012 08:24 BroOd wrote:
Didn't see this posted yet. A solid, somber take on the song:

The National - The Rains of Castamere

Holy crap. This is so. damn. good.

Actually it is pretty bad. Bad voice, bad melody.

I love how you hate absolutely everything to do with the show.

Lol where did you get this idea? I loved Season 1 and most of Season 2. But ep 7 and 8 they fucked up good (and some in ep 6). And this song was done bad, there is no way around it. It is a good song from the books but this version just sound bad.


You're wrong, and there's no way around it.
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-28 14:09:33
May 28 2012 14:09 GMT
#2575
On May 28 2012 23:03 Asha` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2012 19:14 -Archangel- wrote:
On May 28 2012 04:31 Conti wrote:
On May 27 2012 09:52 -Archangel- wrote:
On May 25 2012 08:58 Conti wrote:
Stolen from the other thread:
On May 25 2012 08:24 BroOd wrote:
Didn't see this posted yet. A solid, somber take on the song:

The National - The Rains of Castamere

Holy crap. This is so. damn. good.

Actually it is pretty bad. Bad voice, bad melody.

I love how you hate absolutely everything to do with the show.

Lol where did you get this idea? I loved Season 1 and most of Season 2. But ep 7 and 8 they fucked up good (and some in ep 6). And this song was done bad, there is no way around it. It is a good song from the books but this version just sound bad.


You're wrong, and there's no way around it.

Lol people complain about me not putting words "in my opinion" or "not in my taste" but then people like you just do the same but say opposite. Funny thread.
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-28 14:11:18
May 28 2012 14:10 GMT
#2576
On May 28 2012 23:09 -Archangel- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2012 23:03 Asha` wrote:
On May 28 2012 19:14 -Archangel- wrote:
On May 28 2012 04:31 Conti wrote:
On May 27 2012 09:52 -Archangel- wrote:
On May 25 2012 08:58 Conti wrote:
Stolen from the other thread:
On May 25 2012 08:24 BroOd wrote:
Didn't see this posted yet. A solid, somber take on the song:

The National - The Rains of Castamere

Holy crap. This is so. damn. good.

Actually it is pretty bad. Bad voice, bad melody.

I love how you hate absolutely everything to do with the show.

Lol where did you get this idea? I loved Season 1 and most of Season 2. But ep 7 and 8 they fucked up good (and some in ep 6). And this song was done bad, there is no way around it. It is a good song from the books but this version just sound bad.


You're wrong, and there's no way around it.

Lol people complain about me not putting words "in my opinion" or "not in my taste" but then people like you just do the same but say opposite. Funny thread.


That was the point =p

You just always blanket state things are bad with no actual reasons outside "oh it was different" lol
Zozo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Brazil2579 Posts
May 28 2012 14:26 GMT
#2577
I didn't like the singing at the end either. It is a matter of taste, I can't see myself searching for this song on youtube and being satisfied with that version. Both Tyrion whistling and Bronn singing turned out to be better.

I also don't like Brienne so far, really poor acting.
EGM guides me
Salteador Neo
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Andorra5591 Posts
May 28 2012 14:42 GMT
#2578
The song-poetry sounds awesome. I can understand why people like listening to that man read the books, his voice feels like taken from Tolkien's world.
Revolutionist fan
Quotidian
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway1937 Posts
May 28 2012 15:03 GMT
#2579
no chain = fail, imo.. if they had the budget to blow up a fleet of cg ships, they had the budget to include the chain. I really don't get why it was written out.
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-28 15:07:43
May 28 2012 15:07 GMT
#2580
On May 29 2012 00:03 Quotidian wrote:
no chain = fail, imo.. if they had the budget to blow up a fleet of cg ships, they had the budget to include the chain. I really don't get why it was written out.

Because they would then need to include the river (as KL is on a river) as the whole point of the chain was to not let the ships sail out to open sea again. But as this whole thing was filmed in Dubrovnik (that is at the coast) there was no river there to do it like in the book.
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