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On May 29 2012 03:22 Arcanefrost wrote:
I think it's pretty obvious that Cersei was behind the assassination attempt of Tyrion. She and Joffrey are the only ones who can command the kingsguard, and she had this dialogue with Tommen at the end where she talks about the lioness protecting her pups, which suggests that she feels like Tyrion endangered Myrcella's life by sending her to Dorne and that she wants him dead in order to keep Tommen safe.
That wasn't even in the book iirc. Tommen wasn't in King's Landing during the Blackwater. And again, had it been Cersei we would have almost certainly seen her thinking about it during her PoVs whenever she thinks about Tyrion and wants to kill him.
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On May 29 2012 03:22 Arcanefrost wrote:
I think it's pretty obvious that Cersei was behind the assassination attempt of Tyrion. She and Joffrey are the only ones who can command the kingsguard, and she had this dialogue with Tommen at the end where she talks about the lioness protecting her pups, which suggests that she feels like Tyrion endangered Myrcella's life by sending her to Dorne and that she wants him dead in order to keep Tommen safe.
Idk, im more inclined to LF being behind it. First i was like, yeah, Cercei sent him, but after that I think it's more LF-like, if it was her idea, why did not she remember it in any of his pov chapters? She certainly thought about Tyrion a lot, why wouldnt she be like "how could that imbecile Mandon fail at killing a dwarf in the middle of a battle"....
Joffrey, no, he's too stupid for it, and if he wanted him killed he would have when he slapped him, or would have sent the Hound the very least. If it was Joffrey's command, i think it was LFs idea
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Joffrefy is not smart enough to tell his Kings Guard "hey, so during the battle if you see my uncle alone and undefended, go ahead and kill him off" ? come on. I don't think he could do it in court infront of everybody because he'd be afraid of the fallout from his mom/grandfather. Also don't forget that Tyrion had Bronn and all those sellswords + the mountain clans with him in KL so it wouldn't have been so easy to just kill him then.
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On May 29 2012 03:36 moopie wrote:
Joffrefy is not smart enough to tell his Kings Guard "hey, so during the battle if you see my uncle alone and undefended, go ahead and kill him off" ? come on. I don't think he could do it in court infront of everybody because he'd be afraid of the fallout from his mom/grandfather. Also don't forget that Tyrion had Bronn and all those sellswords + the mountain clans with him in KL so it wouldn't have been so easy to just kill him then.
He s not smart enough to be cautions and then recognize the siege as a potential to get rid of Tyrion. But even if that's just my opinion, you have to agree that he'd send the Hound who is his personal recruit to the White cloacks, or at least ser Meryn who assists him with his abuses. Not someone who he doesnt know at all.
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On May 29 2012 04:15 Geo.Rion wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2012 03:36 moopie wrote:
Joffrefy is not smart enough to tell his Kings Guard "hey, so during the battle if you see my uncle alone and undefended, go ahead and kill him off" ? come on. I don't think he could do it in court infront of everybody because he'd be afraid of the fallout from his mom/grandfather. Also don't forget that Tyrion had Bronn and all those sellswords + the mountain clans with him in KL so it wouldn't have been so easy to just kill him then. He s not smart enough to be cautions and then recognize the siege as a potential to get rid of Tyrion. But even if that's just my opinion, you have to agree that he'd send the Hound who is his personal recruit to the White cloacks, or at least ser Meryn who assists him with his abuses. Not someone who he doesnt know at all.
Unless he gave that command to all his KG and Moore just happened to be the one with the best opportunity to do so. By the time Tyrion was pushing onto the bridge of broken ships (and mostly undefended) only Moore was near him iirc.
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Awesome episode. Really have nothing negative to say...HBO did an amazing job with this one. When u consider what they had to work with and how true they stayed to the source I'm extremely impressed how they pulled it off. Seriously if this episode didnt please u just stopping watching the show now because nothing will ever please you. Hell it was almost worth the obvious skimping on budget for the rest of the season just for this one.
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I wish that the Sandor Clegane in the series was more like the Sandor Clegane in the books. The one in the books is fucking absolutely badass.
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The episode was pretty cool but I kinda wish they didn't have Loras take the role his brother Garlan took in the books by wearing Renly's armor. Garlan Tyrell is full of awesome, it makes no sense not to introduce him at that point either since him and the rest of the Tyrell's will be in King's Landing for quite awhile, they might as well give him an awesome entrance.
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On May 29 2012 06:21 Attican wrote:
The episode was pretty cool but I kinda wish they didn't have Loras take the role his brother Garlan took in the books by wearing Renly's armor. Garlan Tyrell is full of awesome, it makes no sense not to introduce him at that point either since him and the rest of the Tyrell's will be in King's Landing for quite awhile, they might as well give him an awesome entrance.
They are probably going to scrap Garlan altogether, or just make a passing reference at most. They aren't afraid of getting rid of characters....(the Reeds  )
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Garlan seems to be pretty awesome indeed. Can definitely see them skipping him like they did with the Blackfish though.
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On May 29 2012 04:50 antelope591 wrote:
Awesome episode. Really have nothing negative to say...HBO did an amazing job with this one. When u consider what they had to work with and how true they stayed to the source I'm extremely impressed how they pulled it off. Seriously if this episode didnt please u just stopping watching the show now because nothing will ever please you. Hell it was almost worth the obvious skimping on budget for the rest of the season just for this one.
GRRM wrote the script for this episode though :D So yeah ofc it's gonna be good! I think they dealt well with the problem of not including the chain but instead the ship full of wildfire and the explosion afterwards. It's just as devastating as the chain and it's a clever though a fire ship is of course a well known trick just not with wild fire.
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mm only one episode the deal with Aryas fate (didnt like the end of her last scene..) Jon killing halfhand, Dany in the house of the undiying and metting with ser Barristan and Strong Belwas (dont think theyll include that part this season) and the Red Wedding....
I think theyll just ignore the RW for now..and Barristan,
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what red wedding isn't even in this book why would they include it this season
it happens close to the end of a storm of swords
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On May 29 2012 11:38 KOFgokuon wrote:
what red wedding isn't even in this book why would they include it this season
it happens close to the end of a storm of swords
Oh, sory then.. i read the books so fast , i dont remember what is in each particular book
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yeah, red wedding is two thirds into SoS. apparently they'll split book 3 into two seasons-
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If Dany manages to meet B&B next episode that will surely be a very Dany heavy episode. The house of the undying is a couple good length scenes in itself, assuming it there is as much or more to it than in the books as seems likely with the changes so far, and then they would be a third. Not to say I doubt it. I can't help but think they are going to get him back into things this season, so next episode, with that name drop they did to remind people about who he is in episode 8.
The red wedding? That is a bit more than half way through book 3. That might be almost two years out from now as a season 4 item, but with the way they are pacing things I'd put money on them using it as their season 3 major drama/action event of episode 9.
Back to the house of the undying though, here is to hoping they do something to rationalize some changes to the show version of Dany towards something more like what was in the books. The odds of this one conquering the cities of slavers bay is very near zero. Does anyone see this Dany pulling the Robb, Tywin, and then Tyrion/Stannis respectively that were those three victories? I would hope Barristan would decide the Dany from the show is one of the "bad one" Targaryens and let the titan's bastard kill her.
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On May 29 2012 11:43 Jell wrote:
yeah, red wedding is two thirds into SoS. apparently they'll split book 3 into two seasons-
Do we know if this is confirmed?
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On May 29 2012 12:12 happyness wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2012 11:43 Jell wrote:
yeah, red wedding is two thirds into SoS. apparently they'll split book 3 into two seasons- Do we know if this is confirmed?
It's confirmed.
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