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SPOILER WARNING If you only watch the show, this thread will spoil you of future events in HBO's Game of Thrones. Thread contains discussion of all books of the series A Song of Ice and Fire
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ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
May 29 2012 03:33 GMT
#2621
On May 29 2012 12:32 moopie wrote:
It is known.

Too easy lol.
GranDim
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
Canada1214 Posts
May 29 2012 03:34 GMT
#2622
I wonder how they will preview red wedding once they get there. The battle here was expected so showing some of it in previews was alright but most that episode will be a heavy spoiler until the moment it airs.
Phelski
Profile Joined December 2010
United States142 Posts
May 29 2012 05:07 GMT
#2623
so does anyone else think that robb will marry that westerling next episode because this was the first episode to end with a song and it was Raynes of Castermere, which is about betrayls to the lannisters which that will be
Jonoman92
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States9106 Posts
May 29 2012 06:42 GMT
#2624
On May 29 2012 14:07 Phelski wrote:
so does anyone else think that robb will marry that westerling next episode because this was the first episode to end with a song and it was Raynes of Castermere, which is about betrayls to the lannisters which that will be


It'd actually be a betrayal to the Freys, he's already enemies with the Lannisters but he was supposed to be betrothed to a Frey (though it could be argued he was forced into the arrangement, he still agreed.)
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
May 29 2012 07:21 GMT
#2625
On May 29 2012 15:42 Jonoman92 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2012 14:07 Phelski wrote:
so does anyone else think that robb will marry that westerling next episode because this was the first episode to end with a song and it was Raynes of Castermere, which is about betrayls to the lannisters which that will be


It'd actually be a betrayal to the Freys, he's already enemies with the Lannisters but he was supposed to be betrothed to a Frey (though it could be argued he was forced into the arrangement, he still agreed.)

Forced? It was a marriage pact, brokered by their parents, and both giving consent.
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samiamquinn
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia137 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-29 07:23:47
May 29 2012 07:23 GMT
#2626
On May 29 2012 15:42 Jonoman92 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2012 14:07 Phelski wrote:
so does anyone else think that robb will marry that westerling next episode because this was the first episode to end with a song and it was Raynes of Castermere, which is about betrayls to the lannisters which that will be


It'd actually be a betrayal to the Freys, he's already enemies with the Lannisters but he was supposed to be betrothed to a Frey (though it could be argued he was forced into the arrangement, he still agreed.)


I think he means house westerling betraying the Lannisters. Nonetheless I don't believe the song was played to foreshadow anything, it was played because the Lannisters had just crushed their enemies.
Latchy
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia121 Posts
May 29 2012 08:43 GMT
#2627
Anybody else feel sorry for the Hound? He gets treated like garbage and so happy when he spat the dummy (Joffery's face was priceless). I have not read the books, but I hope that he and Sansa escape to north, because they are the two characters I feel sorry for the most.
"Screw with Nestea and you catch a Nes.T.D" - Tasteless
elt
Profile Joined July 2010
Thailand1092 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-29 09:12:10
May 29 2012 09:10 GMT
#2628
On May 29 2012 17:43 Latchy wrote:
Anybody else feel sorry for the Hound? He gets treated like garbage and so happy when he spat the dummy (Joffery's face was priceless). I have not read the books, but I hope that he and Sansa escape to north, because they are the two characters I feel sorry for the most.


No such thing as a happy ending in this world.

EDIT: plus he's one brutal motherfucker
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Conti
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2516 Posts
May 29 2012 09:28 GMT
#2629
On May 29 2012 12:34 GranDim wrote:
I wonder how they will preview red wedding once they get there. The battle here was expected so showing some of it in previews was alright but most that episode will be a heavy spoiler until the moment it airs.

I am curious about this, too. In these two seasons, episode 9 was where the big things happened. They cannot keep up that principle for the red wedding. Even if they manage not to give out any hints, people will be expecting something big happening at episode 9. And if the preview reads "Robb and his army visit the Twins for a wedding", then they're gonna expect something big to happen there. Soo.. they need to do the red wedding at least one episode earlier to keep the people surprised.
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-29 09:40:12
May 29 2012 09:39 GMT
#2630
There were plenty of hints in the book that something bad would happen though, maybe not blatant hints of a "Red Wedding" until they were actually there, but there was definitely hints that something was up.
Drowsy
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States4876 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-29 09:46:15
May 29 2012 09:40 GMT
#2631
On May 29 2012 05:36 Incognoto wrote:
I wish that the Sandor Clegane in the series was more like the Sandor Clegane in the books. The one in the books is fucking absolutely badass.


ummm... what exactly have they changed from books to series with the hound? He seems like 100% exactly the same, like even most of his dialog is directly from the book.

Do you mean just the portrayal? He does seem a bit more "wounded" and disturbed in the show and less of a crazy psychopath who kills the fuck out of people. I kinda don't mind it, as we all know what eventually happens in book 3 and portraying him more sympathetically in the show kind of sets up for it.
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FireSA
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia555 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-29 09:59:31
May 29 2012 09:54 GMT
#2632
On May 29 2012 18:39 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
There were plenty of hints in the book that something bad would happen though, maybe not blatant hints of a "Red Wedding" until they were actually there, but there was definitely hints that something was up.



Yes, the last two Cat chapters were by faaaar the best written Cat chapters. So good. Am pretty excited for it. Partly because I can't wait to see people who haven't read the books go mental over it.

EDIT: Also to the guy above, I think he is actually portrayed as less complex so far on the show than in the books. Our sympathy as readers comes from us understanding his pain, getting a much better idea of his torments, whereas in the show he has been....I mean...they have had a handful of scenes where he gets some character, but for the most part he is just the Hound who loves killing, and almost too much so. To me anyway.
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-29 10:56:38
May 29 2012 10:56 GMT
#2633
On May 29 2012 18:39 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
There were plenty of hints in the book that something bad would happen though, maybe not blatant hints of a "Red Wedding" until they were actually there, but there was definitely hints that something was up.

Yes, like Robb giving his speech about how he would solve all problems and still win. That was a clear sign by Martin that "Oh no, we want none of that. Stark winning?! Not going to happen in my book" :D :D
Ender985
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Spain910 Posts
May 29 2012 11:14 GMT
#2634
Since ASoS is going to be split in two seasons, people were speculating that the RW would be happening in the first episode of season 4, because if you end season 3 with that a lot of people would just ditch the show out of pure frustration. We'll see.

BTW, what a great episode Blackwater was. I only missed Tyrion's chain, but the wildfire explosion made up for it!
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antelope591
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada820 Posts
May 29 2012 13:10 GMT
#2635
When Robb wrote that letter outlining his succession a couple of chapters before the red wedding I knew he was fucked....I didn't know GRM would dispose of him so brutally and take Cat with him in the process however -_-
SilverLeagueElite
Profile Joined April 2010
United States626 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-29 15:12:07
May 29 2012 15:10 GMT
#2636
On May 29 2012 18:40 Drowsy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2012 05:36 Incognoto wrote:
I wish that the Sandor Clegane in the series was more like the Sandor Clegane in the books. The one in the books is fucking absolutely badass.


ummm... what exactly have they changed from books to series with the hound? He seems like 100% exactly the same, like even most of his dialog is directly from the book.

Do you mean just the portrayal? He does seem a bit more "wounded" and disturbed in the show and less of a crazy psychopath who kills the fuck out of people. I kinda don't mind it, as we all know what eventually happens in book 3 and portraying him more sympathetically in the show kind of sets up for it.

I think the show fails to capture The Hound's rage. They've already set him up as a sympathetic character. The hints were much more subtle in the book(probably due to portrayal, as you say) and his turning came as a surprise to me even up until Blackwater. It's not until much later when Sandor attempts to quell the rage, TV Sandor is pretty much already there.

It seems to me that Bronn has had more screen time than The Hound. Or at the least, given Bronn more time while taking time away from The Hound. People must find Bronn's character more interesting, I guess.
Arcanefrost
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium1257 Posts
May 29 2012 15:18 GMT
#2637
The hints of the red wedding are actually ridiculously obvious if you reread the book, but they're so well written and cleverly implemented that you don't notice it the first time. Probably my favorite book ever because of how brilliant the red wedding storyline was.
Valor is a poor substitute for numbers.
ExceeD_DreaM
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada500 Posts
May 29 2012 17:30 GMT
#2638
am I the only one who thinks Sandor Clegane ACTUALLY looks like a dog? His eye nose and mouth formation reminds me of a puppy everytime I see him... HONESTLY!
Conti
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2516 Posts
May 29 2012 18:56 GMT
#2639
EW.com: 'Game of Thrones' scoop: Season 3 character list revealed -- EXCLUSIVE

Reeds are in! Rejoice!
jj33
Profile Joined April 2011
802 Posts
May 29 2012 18:58 GMT
#2640
On May 30 2012 03:56 Conti wrote:
EW.com: 'Game of Thrones' scoop: Season 3 character list revealed -- EXCLUSIVE

Reeds are in! Rejoice!


thanks for link.

I'm excited to the Olenna, love how her bodyguards were named left and right haha
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