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mutantmagnet
Profile Joined June 2009
United States3789 Posts
January 31 2016 17:27 GMT
#881
On January 31 2016 23:23 Kamisamanachi wrote:
He's masochist I think...or tsundere,to be precise



Tsundere is the perfect adjective.
hfglgg
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany5372 Posts
January 31 2016 17:28 GMT
#882
might have to do with the terrible routing to the perfect world servers.
Steelavocado
Profile Joined May 2010
United States2123 Posts
January 31 2016 17:51 GMT
#883
Pretty funny how hard the chinese fans are flaming the NA scene right now

gratz on your first tourny win since last spring
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Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34171 Posts
January 31 2016 17:54 GMT
#884
On February 01 2016 02:51 Steelavocado wrote:
Pretty funny how hard the chinese fans are flaming the NA scene right now

gratz on your first tourny win since last spring


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TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
January 31 2016 18:37 GMT
#885
Really all I'm saying is that EG should have won.
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writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
January 31 2016 18:38 GMT
#886
On February 01 2016 02:27 mutantmagnet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2016 23:23 Kamisamanachi wrote:
He's masochist I think...or tsundere,to be precise



Tsundere is the perfect adjective.


Mostly he's just tsuntsun actually
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
pat777
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States356 Posts
January 31 2016 19:46 GMT
#887
How did Universe get buyback after they gg'd? He was like 200 gold short and then after the gg, he had buyback.
hfglgg
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany5372 Posts
January 31 2016 20:05 GMT
#888
On February 01 2016 04:46 pat777 wrote:
How did Universe get buyback after they gg'd? He was like 200 gold short and then after the gg, he had buyback.


maybe because arteezy left and his gold was distributed among the rest of the team?
if thats so it would open up amazing possibilites for out of the box plays. :D
pat777
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States356 Posts
January 31 2016 20:16 GMT
#889
On February 01 2016 05:05 hfglgg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2016 04:46 pat777 wrote:
How did Universe get buyback after they gg'd? He was like 200 gold short and then after the gg, he had buyback.


maybe because arteezy left and his gold was distributed among the rest of the team?
if thats so it would open up amazing possibilites for out of the box plays. :D

Yeah, I think that's most likely it. It just didn't happen immediately after Arteezy dc'ed. Is there some sort of delay before gold is distributed?
blobrus
Profile Joined August 2011
4297 Posts
January 31 2016 21:53 GMT
#890
On February 01 2016 02:51 Steelavocado wrote:
Pretty funny how hard the chinese fans are flaming the NA scene right now

gratz on your first tourny win since last spring


It's hilarious tbh. Seems like there's a lot of pent up rage for a team that's been their entire scenes daddy for like a year.
EmilA
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark4618 Posts
January 31 2016 21:59 GMT
#891
On February 01 2016 05:16 pat777 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2016 05:05 hfglgg wrote:
On February 01 2016 04:46 pat777 wrote:
How did Universe get buyback after they gg'd? He was like 200 gold short and then after the gg, he had buyback.


maybe because arteezy left and his gold was distributed among the rest of the team?
if thats so it would open up amazing possibilites for out of the box plays. :D

Yeah, I think that's most likely it. It just didn't happen immediately after Arteezy dc'ed. Is there some sort of delay before gold is distributed?


Needs to abandon first I think
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pat777
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States356 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-01 00:45:17
January 31 2016 22:53 GMT
#892
On February 01 2016 06:59 EmilA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2016 05:16 pat777 wrote:
On February 01 2016 05:05 hfglgg wrote:
On February 01 2016 04:46 pat777 wrote:
How did Universe get buyback after they gg'd? He was like 200 gold short and then after the gg, he had buyback.


maybe because arteezy left and his gold was distributed among the rest of the team?
if thats so it would open up amazing possibilites for out of the box plays. :D

Yeah, I think that's most likely it. It just didn't happen immediately after Arteezy dc'ed. Is there some sort of delay before gold is distributed?


Needs to abandon first I think

I see. I'd love to see a teammate abandoning to give buyback money for another teammate used as an actual strat as hfglgg suggested. Or maybe abandon to give a teammate a faster rapier. It seems like it'll only be viable near the end of the game in some sort of base race scenario.
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
February 01 2016 02:38 GMT
#893
On January 31 2016 23:18 Azarkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2016 23:17 hunter_x wrote:
On January 31 2016 22:53 Azarkon wrote:
On January 31 2016 22:52 SnowStormer wrote:
On January 31 2016 22:49 Azarkon wrote:
For once as per usual, I was left.

But I'll be back next month boys.


FTFY


Except "usual" would be 12/13 tournaments, in which I called for the West to win, even when people didn't believe they were going to, for example when two Chinese teams were in winner during the international and PPD's team was in loser.

dude you alwas say west wins, beause you hate the chinese. cant you just admit it?


Wrong. I'd say that the Chinese would win when I personally believe it, and I'd personally believe it when the evidence favors their victory.

*Cough*MVP3rdplaceTI5*Cough*
Average means I'm better than half of you.
Corgi
Profile Joined December 2014
United States408 Posts
February 01 2016 03:31 GMT
#894
EG lost? Maybe that will humble them some.
Salazarz
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Korea (South)2591 Posts
February 01 2016 04:54 GMT
#895
On February 01 2016 02:51 Steelavocado wrote:
Pretty funny how hard the chinese fans are flaming the NA scene right now

gratz on your first tourny win since last spring


I'm sure it would happen to some extent either way, but a big part of the reason they are going so hard at this is because of EG's attitudes / Suma1l's 'china ez' comment.
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
February 01 2016 05:04 GMT
#896
Finally got finished watching the games. Much credit to Old Chicken for the Series strategy. It's a skill that you normally don't see in Dota2, as beyond Bo3 is rare. (I come from SC2, so being able to plan a Bo5 or Bo7 is really important at the very top skill level.)

Game 1: Ehome came in with their "Eraser" strategy. ppd has settled on this in a few games, but only a few teams had realized how powerful drafting Lion with another Burst Damage Carry truly is. Simply erasing cores from team fights let's you snowball quickly. Also, credit where it was due: that was the perfect Ursa game and I quite appreciate pulling out rare picks in Finals and making them work.

Game 2: This is where both teams brought out their actual strategies, and it also (in hindsight) lays the foundation for how old chicken has been drafting. He has a slate of draft types he'll look for after the first few picks are set. (Since Earth Spirit is so damn broken, this makes a lot of sense.) That's why he burned almost his entire reserve time to 2nd pick a Rubick. ppd's draft was actually quite strong, save for 2 errors. Firstly, banning Visage was a mistake. In finals, there is never a "free" ban in the first stage. The second, and this has come up a few times now, is that leaving Sumail on a playmaker Mid leaves EG with so little damage. It works fine against Tier 2 teams, but against Tier 1 teams, you simply need two scaling cores across your 1-3 positions. If Universe is going to play an initiator as well, then you've got to find a lot of damage in Sumail & Arteezy.

Ehome's approach to dealing with a Batrider line up is the adjustment everyone else had made: scale to the late game with fairly defensive Cores. It's a bit like how everyone decided to deal with Broodmother or Silencer. (Which is also why the Broodmother ban came out.) EG had a net worth lead until minute 31, actually, and I thought it was a decent game, but I was really concerned about the Sumail Puck because Puck really only works if you have Bulldog on a carry. Oddly enough, Weaver was on the other side, which was a really good pick.


Game 3: Mostly because people interact with Earth Spirit in pubs and the way it wrecks the early game, this game is actually an example of how a great team can work around that problem. But then it simply highlights the actually broken part of the Hero: the utterly cancerous high ground defense. Except for that bottom lane ES + Enchantress domination, EG outplayed Ehome for the vast majority of that game. Earth Spirit is just that broken and causes that many problems. Universe was playing out of his mind with some of those brilliant Chronospheres. But a damn hard to break high ground defense eventually let Cty get to Raid Boss mode on Morphling, and that was the game. (Oddly enough, this is how OG beat EG in the group stage, which is why ppd letting the hero through was depressing.)

I know why ppd let the Earth Spirit through. But I knew it was a terrible idea the instant he did it. Kaka was 11-1 on the Hero going into this game. There's a reason for that. We saw how good Universe is on Faceless Void, but the cost to get it was just too much. Ehome had to play supremely well to capitalize on the opportunity, but letting them have Earth Spirit was just an unforced error. Yet they almost made it work. Beyond letting Earth Spirit through, it was a really good draft by ppd and actually a pretty bad one by old chicken. The Enchantress was pretty cute and it worked a little, but it was too cute by half. Cty farming into Raid Boss mode is what bailed them out.


All in all, congrats to Ehome. They've been the best Chinese team in 6.86 going into this LAN and they played really well at it. Their teamwork was really, really good and old chicken had a collection of strategies that worked to their strengths. They were able to execute and they won the tournament.
Salazarz
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Korea (South)2591 Posts
February 01 2016 07:07 GMT
#897
Think you're underrating just how powerful the Enchantress pick was and how important it was to Ehome's game in G3 overall. She bought them an insane amount of time and space; without it their morph would never get the chance to get big, and also Enchantress remained a threat all the way until the end, they had to prioritize her as a target or she'd melt faces even though her farm fell off quite a bit towards late.
Dysisa
Profile Joined July 2014
Sweden2376 Posts
February 01 2016 10:36 GMT
#898
On February 01 2016 06:53 blobrus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2016 02:51 Steelavocado wrote:
Pretty funny how hard the chinese fans are flaming the NA scene right now

gratz on your first tourny win since last spring


It's hilarious tbh. Seems like there's a lot of pent up rage for a team that's been their entire scenes daddy for like a year.

What the fuck are you two even talking about? Everyone is flaming Azarkon more than anything, and then there's like 2 - 3 guys flaming RTZ. Wow, everyone is out to get you guys!!!!!!!

Stop being such sore losers, jesus.
fuck dota 2 | "i don't like ppd, and i really look forward to one day beating that motherfucker" -Swindlemelonzz, my personal hero
hfglgg
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany5372 Posts
February 01 2016 13:13 GMT
#899
On February 01 2016 06:53 blobrus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2016 02:51 Steelavocado wrote:
Pretty funny how hard the chinese fans are flaming the NA scene right now

gratz on your first tourny win since last spring


It's hilarious tbh. Seems like there's a lot of pent up rage for a team that's been their entire scenes daddy for like a year.


eg is just an super unlikeable team and has been for years. rtz, sumail, ppd and mason are all players who talk way to much unnecessary shit and have almost no redeeming traits aside from being good at what they do (well except mason, he is just terrible all around). for zai i am not sure if he had more emotions in his life than data in star trek. that leaves eg with 2/7 players i can sympathize with. and thats for someone who sees more of them because he follows the western scene, all the chinese get from them are "ez china" statements.

eg is a team that is through and through unlikeable unless you are a fan of them. that they get more hate when things go bad once in a while is totally expected.
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
February 01 2016 13:40 GMT
#900
yea this guy aint a sadboy
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