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Sloke
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany2433 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-31 13:57:51
January 30 2016 16:44 GMT
#1
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PLAYOFFS DAY 4

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/dota2/MarsTV_Dota_2_League/2015/Winter



Matches start in



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Azubu: English
Azubu: Russian
huomao: Chinese



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Lower Bracket Final
Sunday, Jan 31 6:00am GMT (GMT+00:00)


[image loading](Wiki)OG vs (Wiki)Evil Geniuses[image loading]

Poll: HEAD: Who do you think will make it to the Grand Final?

OG (26)
 
51%

EG (25)
 
49%

51 total votes

Your vote: HEAD: Who do you think will make it to the Grand Final?

(Vote): OG
(Vote): EG



Poll: HEART: Who do you want to make it to the Grand Final?

OG (28)
 
50%

EG (28)
 
50%

56 total votes

Your vote: HEART: Who do you want to make it to the Grand Final?

(Vote): OG
(Vote): EG





Grand Final
Sunday, Jan 31 10:00am GMT (GMT+00:00)


[image loading](Wiki)EHOME vs (Wiki)EG[image loading]

Poll: HEAD: Who do you think will win the Grand Final?

EG (25)
 
64%

EHOME (14)
 
36%

39 total votes

Your vote: HEAD: Who do you think will win the Grand Final?

(Vote): EG
(Vote): EHOME



Poll: HEART: Who do you want to win the Grand Final?

EHOME, give china a future. (22)
 
55%

EG, west still the best. (18)
 
45%

40 total votes

Your vote: HEART: Who do you want to win the Grand Final?

(Vote): EG, west still the best.
(Vote): EHOME, give china a future.





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+ Show Spoiler [EG vs OG Series] +
+ Show Spoiler [EG vs OG Game 1] +
Poll: Do you recommend EG vs OG Game 1?

Yes (7)
 
47%

No (7)
 
47%

If you have time (1)
 
7%

15 total votes

Your vote: Do you recommend EG vs OG Game 1?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


+ Show Spoiler [EG vs OG Game 2] +
Poll: Do you recommend EG vs OG Game 2?

No (7)
 
70%

Yes (2)
 
20%

If you have time (1)
 
10%

10 total votes

Your vote: Do you recommend EG vs OG Game 2?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


+ Show Spoiler [EG vs OG Game 3] +
Poll: Do you recommend EG vs OG Game 3?

Yes (5)
 
45%

No (4)
 
36%

If you have time (2)
 
18%

11 total votes

Your vote: Do you recommend EG vs OG Game 3?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time






+ Show Spoiler [EHOME vs EG Series] +
+ Show Spoiler [EHOME vs EG Game 1] +
Poll: Do you recommend EHOME vs EG Game 1?

Yes (12)
 
86%

If you have time (2)
 
14%

No (0)
 
0%

14 total votes

Your vote: Do you recommend EHOME vs EG Game 1?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


+ Show Spoiler [EHOME vs EG Game 2] +
Poll: Do you recommend EHOME vs EG Game 2?

Yes (11)
 
73%

No (3)
 
20%

If you have time (1)
 
7%

15 total votes

Your vote: Do you recommend EHOME vs EG Game 2?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


+ Show Spoiler [EHOME vs EG Game 3] +
Poll: Do you recommend EHOME vs EG Game 3?

Yes (32)
 
97%

No (1)
 
3%

If you have time (0)
 
0%

33 total votes

Your vote: Do you recommend EHOME vs EG Game 3?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


+ Show Spoiler [EHOME vs EG Game 4] +
Poll: Do you recommend EHOME vs EG Game 4?

Yes (5)
 
63%

If you have time (3)
 
38%

No (0)
 
0%

8 total votes

Your vote: Do you recommend EHOME vs EG Game 4?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


+ Show Spoiler [EHOME vs EG Game 5] +
Poll: Do you recommend EHOME vs EG Game 5?

Yes (5)
 
50%

No (3)
 
30%

If you have time (2)
 
20%

10 total votes

Your vote: Do you recommend EHOME vs EG Game 5?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time



Land of Confusion - Genesis/Disturbed/Stella Starlight Trio
lolnoty
Profile Joined December 2005
United States7166 Posts
January 30 2016 16:56 GMT
#2
go china
"PPD is a very angry guy. He controls us." - Arteezy
wooozy
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3813 Posts
January 30 2016 18:02 GMT
#3
let's go EG!

add another lower bracket run to the list
haxhax
Profile Joined January 2015
125 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-30 18:12:15
January 30 2016 18:12 GMT
#4
On January 31 2016 03:02 wooozy wrote:
let's go EG!

add another lower bracket run to the list


Which are their other lower bracket runs?
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
January 30 2016 18:21 GMT
#5
On January 31 2016 03:12 haxhax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2016 03:02 wooozy wrote:
let's go EG!

add another lower bracket run to the list


Which are their other lower bracket runs?


http://wiki.teamliquid.net/dota2/World_E-sport_Championships_2014

They lost the first series 2-0, then didn't drop another map the entire way through. ppd has won both LANs he's played in China. He's looking to go 3-0.
hiraishin
Profile Joined January 2016
Philippines3 Posts
January 30 2016 18:57 GMT
#6
EG FIGHTING!!
Long Live BROODWAR Kim Taek Yong FIGHTING (Bisu[Shield])
Dracolich70
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark3820 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-30 19:16:36
January 30 2016 19:13 GMT
#7
Heart goes to OG. Mind follows.

EG are resilient. But I believe OG has more strings, if they don't corner themselves into being less than they are, and allow EG to be more.

I expect to see one game where one goes, "What were you thinking, PPD?".
LiangHao
DV G
Profile Joined September 2012
Argentina2339 Posts
January 30 2016 19:26 GMT
#8
CTY!

Let's go
Go pro or die trying
Nyan
Profile Joined April 2015
Germany1931 Posts
January 30 2016 19:51 GMT
#9
eg og LB final? It must be Frankfurt again! lets go N0tail
?=・ェ・=) oʞǝu (^=˃ᆺ˂) oʞǝu (=xェx=) oʞǝu (=^-ω-^=) ( ⓛ ω ⓛ *) oʞǝu (ㅇㅅㅇ❀) oʞǝu (=ↀωↀ=)✧ oʞǝu (=・ェ・=?
Sloke
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany2433 Posts
January 30 2016 20:39 GMT
#10
does youtube process so long or is ppd still awake at 5am ?

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Land of Confusion - Genesis/Disturbed/Stella Starlight Trio
OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6600 Posts
January 30 2016 21:01 GMT
#11
I'm hoping for a CTY show.
LiquidDota Staff
dragonswarrior
Profile Joined August 2015
389 Posts
January 30 2016 21:09 GMT
#12
As much as I love EG I'm hoping China will finally win something.

EG 2-1 OG

EHome 3-2 EG

Good luck all!
“Words are pale shadows of forgotten names. As names have power, words have power. Words can light fires in the minds of men. Words can wring tears from the hardest hearts.”
ch33psh33p
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
7650 Posts
January 30 2016 21:28 GMT
#13
Ehome looking so stupid good right now

Their wins are so unbelievably dominant.
secret - never again
Dysisa
Profile Joined July 2014
Sweden2376 Posts
January 30 2016 22:29 GMT
#14
Hoping and praying for OG to take it so we get a grand finals that's actually fun to watch.
fuck dota 2 | "i don't like ppd, and i really look forward to one day beating that motherfucker" -Swindlemelonzz, my personal hero
Verniy
Profile Joined May 2015
Canada3360 Posts
January 31 2016 00:39 GMT
#15
i don't care who wins as long as ehome wins
Heaven's Halberd is the most criminally underbought item in Dota. Together we can stop this.
Sbrubbles
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil5776 Posts
January 31 2016 00:40 GMT
#16
On January 31 2016 06:28 ch33psh33p wrote:
Ehome looking so stupid good right now

Their wins are so unbelievably dominant.


I dunno, their series against OG could really have gone either way
Bora Pain minha porra!
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
January 31 2016 01:19 GMT
#17
I was hoping EG vs OG would be the grand finals match, oh well, I'm fine with either team beating EHOME
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
woojaekeem
Profile Joined May 2013
United States524 Posts
January 31 2016 01:21 GMT
#18
will earth spirit and invoker get through during eg/og or will they be banned hm hmh hm
ch33psh33p
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
7650 Posts
January 31 2016 02:46 GMT
#19
On January 31 2016 09:40 Sbrubbles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2016 06:28 ch33psh33p wrote:
Ehome looking so stupid good right now

Their wins are so unbelievably dominant.


I dunno, their series against OG could really have gone either way


yeah game 2 was close

game 1 and 3? Not even.
secret - never again
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
January 31 2016 05:02 GMT
#20
Okay, time for my "pre-draft draft analysis" post. (This is a lot of fun for me, if it isn't noticeable.)

The first thing to note is that the Day 1 match between EG & OG means very little. That was 4 days and quite a lot of Meta ago. ppd isn't going to allow Fly to draft Earth Spirit + Oracle together. And OG also will be unlikely to run 4 Protect 1 strategies, which is what they were doing on that first day. (And why VG walked all over them.) I'm also a little sad that they aren't meeting in the finals because I would love to see a Bo5 between them.

Oh, OG lost Game 3 against Ehome the instant they panicked when Broodmother came out. While LGD might have over-reacted and 2nd phase banned it against EG as a result, as well, putting Fly on Position 5 Gyrocopter just obliterated everything OG does. Meepo still works, it just doesn't work without the right setup. (So expect final ban of the hero when it makes sense to by ppd.)

The contested Picks will be: Earth Spirit, Vengeful Spirit, Faceless Void & Invoker.

What to expect from EG:

When ppd has first pick, he won't ban Earth Spirit. I would expect Wisp & Invoker bans, then a first pick Vengeful Spirit if Earth Spirit is banned. I really hope he doesn't skip Earth Spirit if it's available. It almost went badly when he did against LGD in game 1. While Crit has gotten better on Earth Spirit as the tournament has gone on, he's not great on it as an active roamer in the early game. But his high ground defense is massively on-point.

If ppd has second pick, I would expect Earth Spirit & Wisp bans. That seems pretty straight forward.

Second phase bans are obviously dependent on what ppd wants to eliminate from Fly's arsenal. If ppd gets Vengeful Spirit, I'd be really curious if he doesn't ban Dazzle + Oracle. So much of what OG wants to do (with the exception of their push-strat line ups) is based off Defensive Supports + Global Ganking. OG has been favoring solid laning with that Global Ganking, which works well to pick-apart the other team's item progression and then take objectives. It also allows Miracle to carry the team hard if they get beaten in lanes. (Call it OG's "theme" they've developed in this tournament.)

Morphling is working out to be the 2nd best safe lane Carry at MDL. With so much Global Ganking (much of it due to Invoker and Zeus being popular), the stupidly hard to kill blob of water is working really well. Expect Morphling to be a feature of the 2nd phase for pick/ban.


What to expect from OG:

If Fly has first pick, he's going to ban Faceless Void and Lone Druid. Fly has pretty much banned Lone Druid almost every game this tournament. Faceless Void should be a given ban against EG, seeing how damn good Universe is on it. (And how potent FV is right now.) For first pick, I would expect Invoker, if available. Earth Spirit if ppd let's it through. Other than that, there really isn't any information to go on. He first picked Dazzle in their first series on the LAN. Wisp is highly likely to never be available.

If Fly has second pick, it's going to be Faceless Void + Earth Spirit. Picks will probably be Invoker + a support he favors. There's a pretty consistent theme to OG's drafts.

In the 2nd phase, I would expect bans targeted at whatever Fly doesn't want to deal with. Considering ppd rarely likes to pick heroes for the same players in the first phase two games in a row, it's really going to be down to what he wants to try to remove from the players left to ban. For picks, I wouldn't be surprised to see some Spirit Breaker picks for Moon in the second phase. EG has, historically, had trouble with the hero, and it will synergize really well if they can get Invoker.

There's also a good chance we see a Broodmother ban in either the 2nd or 3rd phase. Fly & ppd both know how badly caught off guard that was & how badly Fly responded. (It was a good pick for Ehome regardless, given the way the draft had played out, so cheesy it was not.) If he doesn't ban it, don't be surprised if he picks it up one game, as it would work with what OG is doing with most of their strategies. Though he won't ban if it a clear Universe hero comes out in the first phase, which could very easily happen.


Something to watch out for, in both series today:

Mid-game Vision. Not just the warding, but also heroes that grant vision. With everyone grouping up for 5-man smokes and team-fighting past 10 minutes, being able to scout out the movement is really key. This is why ppd will first phase ban Night Stalker against the Chinese teams. They know just how potent Night Stalker w/ Aghs is for making the opponent completely blind on the map. OG gets around a lot of this problem with good warding & defensive supports/play. It's hard to get picked off when you're hard to find.

Roshan Pit Fights: since Starladder, trying to sneak a Rosh works about 10% of the time. Most of the time you get wiped when you try, leading to a loss. Obviously, this is how EG tend to lose games, but it's been a running theme of 2 LANs in a row. Earth Spirit & a lot of Global Presence Heroes has a lot to do with that. It's also the reason for the TA picks as we've gotten later into the tournament.
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