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Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34171 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-31 14:03:11
January 31 2016 14:02 GMT
#841
what a team
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
Evander Berry Wall
Profile Joined June 2014
United States1137 Posts
January 31 2016 14:03 GMT
#842
The spread between teams is so tight right now. There are like 8 teams that could win at Shangai and I wouldn't really be flummoxed.
bluzi
Profile Joined May 2011
4703 Posts
January 31 2016 14:03 GMT
#843
On January 31 2016 22:59 Kipsate wrote:
i'm suprised EG let Earth Spirit through, the only reason the game went so bad was because of him.

What did he ban?


LD + DP , ES is on a different level of OP right now in capable hands , when he gets Aghs its lights out.
Kamisamanachi
Profile Joined April 2015
4665 Posts
January 31 2016 14:04 GMT
#844
The question was did ppd got confused after game 1 and 2/loss and decided to not ban ES?
fan of dream runs. orange ti3 , fnatic ti6 , wings ti6 , cdec ti5 !! B-god's anti mage , mushi's shadow fiend
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-31 14:06:03
January 31 2016 14:05 GMT
#845
Also, did Arteezy quit first before his team said game over at the end? It's sort of important for evaluating his state of mind, because this game I did feel as though there was a huge conflict within the team. Arteezy walked into Universe's ultimates *twice* and the final fight, Universe fucked up bad.
babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-31 14:05:41
January 31 2016 14:05 GMT
#846
Where are those who said ES is not OP. They probably sucked at using ES
lolnoty
Profile Joined December 2005
United States7166 Posts
January 31 2016 14:06 GMT
#847
On January 31 2016 23:05 Azarkon wrote:
Also, did Arteezy quit first before his team said game over at the end? It's sort of important for evaluating his state of mind, because this game I did feel as though there was a huge conflict within the team.

we need teamspeak to know that, they probably decide it's over vocally before they type it out

the meme'rs always go crazy when rtz leaves the game, which I still don't understand why.
"PPD is a very angry guy. He controls us." - Arteezy
Sloke
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany2433 Posts
January 31 2016 14:06 GMT
#848
On January 31 2016 23:04 Kamisamanachi wrote:
The question was did ppd got confused after game 1 and 2/loss and decided to not ban ES?

He had to decide: ban ES and let EHOME potentially get Void or ban something else let them have ES and get Void for universe. Guess the gamble didnt work out. Kaka 12:1 ES this tournament
Land of Confusion - Genesis/Disturbed/Stella Starlight Trio
Tuco
Profile Joined September 2010
China200 Posts
January 31 2016 14:06 GMT
#849
On January 31 2016 22:56 Super_Style wrote:
You cant tell me ehomes game plan is to have chicken feed and have 0 impact, even if they won 3-0.


I don't think that's really fair. Simply picking viper mid had a huge effect on EG's ability to lane and rotate in the early game, and Ehome made good use of this. Sure after this his impact diminished considerably as basically the other heroes took farm priority, but I think you're exaggerating a little.
Elurie
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
4716 Posts
January 31 2016 14:07 GMT
#850
On January 31 2016 23:04 Kamisamanachi wrote:
The question was did ppd got confused after game 1 and 2/loss and decided to not ban ES?

They had to ban the bear and its old man. Not sure why the 2nd ban wasn't used on balanced spirit though... maybe they thought they could counter it?
trifecta
Profile Joined April 2010
United States6795 Posts
January 31 2016 14:07 GMT
#851
ES has 90% winrate this lan lmao
Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
January 31 2016 14:09 GMT
#852
arteezy walks into chrono twice, once with bkb, then gets popped by the lion when he has DR. quits before gg

raging for sure
Do yourself a favour and just STFU
Elurie
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
4716 Posts
January 31 2016 14:09 GMT
#853
On January 31 2016 23:05 Azarkon wrote:
Arteezy walked into Universe's ultimates *twice* and the final fight, Universe fucked up bad.

Ahhh, you're the type that walks into a wall and then yell at the wall for getting in your way.
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
January 31 2016 14:11 GMT
#854
On January 31 2016 23:06 Tuco wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2016 22:56 Super_Style wrote:
You cant tell me ehomes game plan is to have chicken feed and have 0 impact, even if they won 3-0.


I don't think that's really fair. Simply picking viper mid had a huge effect on EG's ability to lane and rotate in the early game, and Ehome made good use of this. Sure after this his impact diminished considerably as basically the other heroes took farm priority, but I think you're exaggerating a little.


He was irrelevant later because he wasn't given farm priority. Why he wasn't given farm priority, and why Ehome never plays around him, ought to be all the answer you need. Teams have different priorities and for Ehome, that's getting Cty and Eleven ahead. Why? Because for Ehome, those two players are seen as the best players in terms of impact. There was a period of time when they tried to prioritize chicken, and it didn't work because he'd fuck up and waste all the farm.

It IS a weakness because there are only so many heroes that can be played in off. Fortunately for Ehome, currently there isn't a huge variety of effective heroes in the middle, which allows them to ban the middle heroes they aren't able to run. But in case that changes, then their middle is going to be a huge problem.
TRAP[yoo]
Profile Joined December 2009
Hungary6026 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-31 14:13:00
January 31 2016 14:12 GMT
#855
On January 31 2016 23:11 Azarkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2016 23:06 Tuco wrote:
On January 31 2016 22:56 Super_Style wrote:
You cant tell me ehomes game plan is to have chicken feed and have 0 impact, even if they won 3-0.


I don't think that's really fair. Simply picking viper mid had a huge effect on EG's ability to lane and rotate in the early game, and Ehome made good use of this. Sure after this his impact diminished considerably as basically the other heroes took farm priority, but I think you're exaggerating a little.


He was irrelevant later because he wasn't given farm priority. Why he wasn't given farm priority, and why Ehome never plays around him, ought to be all the answer you need. Teams have different priorities and for Ehome, that's getting Cty and Eleven ahead. Why? Because for Ehome, those two players are seen as the best players in terms of impact. There was a period of time when they tried to prioritize chicken, and it didn't work because he'd fuck up and waste all the farm.

It IS a weakness because there are only so many heroes that can be played in off. Fortunately for Ehome, currently there isn't a huge variety of effective heroes in the middle, which allows them to ban the middle heroes they aren't able to run. But in case that changes, then their middle is going to be a huge problem.

when exactly did they prioritize chicken? and what mid heroes are they not running?
FTD
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
January 31 2016 14:12 GMT
#856
On January 31 2016 23:12 TRAP[yoo] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2016 23:11 Azarkon wrote:
On January 31 2016 23:06 Tuco wrote:
On January 31 2016 22:56 Super_Style wrote:
You cant tell me ehomes game plan is to have chicken feed and have 0 impact, even if they won 3-0.


I don't think that's really fair. Simply picking viper mid had a huge effect on EG's ability to lane and rotate in the early game, and Ehome made good use of this. Sure after this his impact diminished considerably as basically the other heroes took farm priority, but I think you're exaggerating a little.


He was irrelevant later because he wasn't given farm priority. Why he wasn't given farm priority, and why Ehome never plays around him, ought to be all the answer you need. Teams have different priorities and for Ehome, that's getting Cty and Eleven ahead. Why? Because for Ehome, those two players are seen as the best players in terms of impact. There was a period of time when they tried to prioritize chicken, and it didn't work because he'd fuck up and waste all the farm.

It IS a weakness because there are only so many heroes that can be played in off. Fortunately for Ehome, currently there isn't a huge variety of effective heroes in the middle, which allows them to ban the middle heroes they aren't able to run. But in case that changes, then their middle is going to be a huge problem.

when exactly did they prioritize chicken?


Back when Eleven was playing Tuskar every game and he was playing Tiny.
hunter_x
Profile Joined June 2014
Germany2762 Posts
January 31 2016 14:17 GMT
#857
On January 31 2016 22:53 Azarkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2016 22:52 SnowStormer wrote:
On January 31 2016 22:49 Azarkon wrote:
For once as per usual, I was left.

But I'll be back next month boys.


FTFY


Except "usual" would be 12/13 tournaments, in which I called for the West to win, even when people didn't believe they were going to, for example when two Chinese teams were in winner during the international and PPD's team was in loser.

dude you alwas say west wins, beause you hate the chinese. cant you just admit it?
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-31 14:19:46
January 31 2016 14:18 GMT
#858
On January 31 2016 23:17 hunter_x wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2016 22:53 Azarkon wrote:
On January 31 2016 22:52 SnowStormer wrote:
On January 31 2016 22:49 Azarkon wrote:
For once as per usual, I was left.

But I'll be back next month boys.


FTFY


Except "usual" would be 12/13 tournaments, in which I called for the West to win, even when people didn't believe they were going to, for example when two Chinese teams were in winner during the international and PPD's team was in loser.

dude you alwas say west wins, beause you hate the chinese. cant you just admit it?


Wrong. I'd say that the Chinese would win when I personally believe it, and I'd personally believe it when the evidence favors their victory.
hunter_x
Profile Joined June 2014
Germany2762 Posts
January 31 2016 14:19 GMT
#859
On January 31 2016 22:58 Danzo wrote:
How the fuck can anyone deal with earth spirit. 1000 mile kick into massive stun while the team can't expect it. I think Icefrog needs to just remove that hero off captain's mode, holy shit.

peter, is that you?
Nymzee
Profile Joined June 2013
3929 Posts
January 31 2016 14:20 GMT
#860
On January 31 2016 23:12 Azarkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2016 23:12 TRAP[yoo] wrote:
On January 31 2016 23:11 Azarkon wrote:
On January 31 2016 23:06 Tuco wrote:
On January 31 2016 22:56 Super_Style wrote:
You cant tell me ehomes game plan is to have chicken feed and have 0 impact, even if they won 3-0.


I don't think that's really fair. Simply picking viper mid had a huge effect on EG's ability to lane and rotate in the early game, and Ehome made good use of this. Sure after this his impact diminished considerably as basically the other heroes took farm priority, but I think you're exaggerating a little.


He was irrelevant later because he wasn't given farm priority. Why he wasn't given farm priority, and why Ehome never plays around him, ought to be all the answer you need. Teams have different priorities and for Ehome, that's getting Cty and Eleven ahead. Why? Because for Ehome, those two players are seen as the best players in terms of impact. There was a period of time when they tried to prioritize chicken, and it didn't work because he'd fuck up and waste all the farm.

It IS a weakness because there are only so many heroes that can be played in off. Fortunately for Ehome, currently there isn't a huge variety of effective heroes in the middle, which allows them to ban the middle heroes they aren't able to run. But in case that changes, then their middle is going to be a huge problem.

when exactly did they prioritize chicken?


Back when Eleven was playing Tuskar every game and he was playing Tiny.

didnt they win the majority of games when eleven was on tusk and chicken played a farming/core mid?
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