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nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
January 31 2016 12:43 GMT
#541
Azubu ending the tournament in style -.-
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
Salazarz
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Korea (South)2591 Posts
January 31 2016 12:43 GMT
#542
MDL english stream is working fine here btw
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-31 12:44:23
January 31 2016 12:44 GMT
#543
On January 31 2016 21:43 Salazarz wrote:
Why are you guys even trying to reason with Azarkon? Just paste his quotes from 30 minutes ago and laugh.

I do because i am bored, dunno about the rest.

EDIT: Rare occasion when i do not like Ench pick.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Sloke
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany2433 Posts
January 31 2016 12:44 GMT
#544
I mean it was obvious EG wanted void and so they had to give ES away ... but ES is kinda good against void, if he doesnt catch him.
Land of Confusion - Genesis/Disturbed/Stella Starlight Trio
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-31 12:46:03
January 31 2016 12:44 GMT
#545
On January 31 2016 21:36 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2016 21:34 Azarkon wrote:
On January 31 2016 21:32 lolfail9001 wrote:
On January 31 2016 21:31 neozxa wrote:
On January 31 2016 21:28 lolfail9001 wrote:
On January 31 2016 21:27 Azarkon wrote:
On January 31 2016 21:26 lolfail9001 wrote:
On January 31 2016 21:24 Azarkon wrote:
On January 31 2016 21:21 lolfail9001 wrote:
On January 31 2016 21:19 Azarkon wrote:
[quote]

So you're saying you haven't seen games where Morphling carries against two opponent carries. And I thought you watch Chinese games.


The absolute irony of your statement is that the only 2 times this arguably happened in this tournament it was Arteezy morph.


Did you watch LGD's games?

You mean LGD vs OG? It was duo core vs duo core with some heavyweight offlaners, so your example is at fault here.


Quas Wex Invoker is not a core.

In this game? LD and Weaver are the duo core against do-little-cause-hero-is-trash puck, countered-to-the-balls bat and morph to pull the weight while being barely even on farm.

Also, Maybe did not play QW voker against Morphling so you're spouting BS at this point.


Makes me think that ppd is just testing out drafts against a top tier chinese team at this point instead of trying to win the game haha

We'll see, maybe they can comeback and with 3 games in a row somehow.

VP already choked once, so i wouldn't be surprised and yeah, i do think pdd is just trying out what works despite repeating same mistakes as against Alliance.
On January 31 2016 21:32 Azarkon wrote:
On January 31 2016 21:31 lolfail9001 wrote:
On January 31 2016 21:30 Azarkon wrote:
On January 31 2016 21:28 lolfail9001 wrote:
On January 31 2016 21:27 Azarkon wrote:
On January 31 2016 21:26 lolfail9001 wrote:
On January 31 2016 21:24 Azarkon wrote:
[quote]

Did you watch LGD's games?

You mean LGD vs OG? It was duo core vs duo core with some heavyweight offlaners, so your example is at fault here.


Quas Wex Invoker is not a core.

In this game? LD and Weaver are the duo core against do-little-cause-hero-is-trash puck, countered-to-the-balls bat and morph to pull the weight while being barely even on farm.


Puck is a fine hero for the first 25 minutes of the game. You must have forgotten that Alliance also plays the hero and destroys with it. The difference is that Universe doesn't play the carries Alliance's off player plays.

Alliance plays the hero as playmaker while having duo farming core, so hero is not that bad. EG had it as a playmaker with another playmaker and a single core.


Yes because Universe doesn't play carries except for Furion. I thought I said that already?

I have seen Universe play a fucking Troll Warlord in 6.81 (or was that 6.80), so you said nothing. It did not end well but for other reasons.


Yes let's use a 6.81 lost game as an example of what Universe plays successfully in professional games.

See someone else's answer, because you're losing this.


It's amazing that you don't see it, but then that's normal I guess, as few people on these boards actually read between the games.

I'll give you a hint: why did PPD keep running Arteezy Lone Druid early on in the tournament? Why didn't he just run Universe Lone Druid every game the way teams that had an off player who could play Lone Druid did? Why did Iceiceice play Lone Druid when he's bad at it? Why is Ehome running it practically every single game?

The answer is simple: because since Alliance's rise in the last two tournaments, in which they destroyed practically every single top team, the hero has become a first pick, and an important first pick. Teams, including PPD's, have tried to insert the hero into their line up, at times force it into their line up, the way VG tried to do, but the only successful way to run it has been from the off player. That's how Alliance does it and that's how Ehome does it.

Hence, teams that aren't able to do this, similar to PPD's in this game, have had to spend a ban on it. That's what PPD tried to avoid in the last few games where he tried to "beat" the hero. He knows the importance of finding a solution to it before the next big tournament.

For those who keep saying: Universe knows how to play it. Prove it. Because I've never seen Universe play it as successfully as the top players.
Salazarz
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Korea (South)2591 Posts
January 31 2016 12:47 GMT
#546
lol cty
Sloke
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany2433 Posts
January 31 2016 12:47 GMT
#547
But srsly, can we get a nerf patch before shanghai pls? Pretty sure we are in a stage where it's clear that about 4 heroes need a small change.
Land of Confusion - Genesis/Disturbed/Stella Starlight Trio
bluzi
Profile Joined May 2011
4703 Posts
January 31 2016 12:47 GMT
#548
EG got their comfort heroes for this game , if they cant win it this time around everyone should just except the fact EHOME got their number now , might change later , but for now they own them.
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38255 Posts
January 31 2016 12:47 GMT
#549
wtf Universe kills CTY lol?
hfglgg
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany5372 Posts
January 31 2016 12:47 GMT
#550
ok i did not know morph can die against void in a 2v1 lane.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
January 31 2016 12:47 GMT
#551
LMAO, the game start.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
pellejohnson
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1931 Posts
January 31 2016 12:47 GMT
#552
Wish my stream would work...
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
January 31 2016 12:48 GMT
#553
On January 31 2016 21:47 Sloke wrote:
But srsly, can we get a nerf patch before shanghai pls? Pretty sure we are in a stage where it's clear that about 4 heroes need a small change.

I agree most of us are expecting 86e soon.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
malcram
Profile Joined November 2010
2752 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-31 12:49:08
January 31 2016 12:48 GMT
#554
any solutions? my stream doesn't work too...

edit: guess we'll be watching russain stream
hfglgg
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany5372 Posts
January 31 2016 12:49 GMT
#555
watch the russian stream.
clusen
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany8702 Posts
January 31 2016 12:49 GMT
#556
On January 31 2016 21:48 malcram wrote:
any solutions? my stream doesn't work too...

Bulldog's stream?
Super_Style
Profile Joined February 2015
296 Posts
January 31 2016 12:49 GMT
#557
Again no dmg EG, dont see why wouldnt you want to pick WD when you have chono on your team.
Dysisa
Profile Joined July 2014
Sweden2376 Posts
January 31 2016 12:49 GMT
#558
Wow someone finally remembered that Clinkz is a hero, and one that should be very good against a lot of the popular picks now.
fuck dota 2 | "i don't like ppd, and i really look forward to one day beating that motherfucker" -Swindlemelonzz, my personal hero
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
January 31 2016 12:49 GMT
#559
On January 31 2016 21:49 Dysisa wrote:
Wow someone finally remembered that Clinkz is a hero, and one that should be very good against a lot of the popular picks now.

Clinkz attack point against Ench is hilarious though.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
TRAP[yoo]
Profile Joined December 2009
Hungary6026 Posts
January 31 2016 12:50 GMT
#560
On January 31 2016 21:49 Dysisa wrote:
Wow someone finally remembered that Clinkz is a hero, and one that should be very good against a lot of the popular picks now.

ig.vitality picks clinkz alot. but i guess they dont count
FTD
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