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Please stop the caster bashing. You can disagree with them and post about it but posts that only serve to bash casters senselessly will be actioned.
lifeisgood99
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada915 Posts
July 21 2014 03:50 GMT
#6481
Get that towel SweatBois
Taengoo/Eunji ~ flavourflower.tumblr.com
gat
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23 Posts
July 21 2014 03:50 GMT
#6482
rotk speaking english, awesome =D
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
July 21 2014 03:50 GMT
#6483
On July 21 2014 12:48 opterown wrote:
damn how many 'short breaks' lol


About eight minutes worth is standard for a 30minute block
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
July 21 2014 03:54 GMT
#6484
On July 21 2014 12:50 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2014 12:48 opterown wrote:
damn how many 'short breaks' lol


About eight minutes worth is standard for a 30minute block

Welcome to real broadcasting, where ad block cost way more. No more whining about ads.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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SpiZe
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada3640 Posts
July 21 2014 03:54 GMT
#6485
On July 21 2014 11:54 Sabu113 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2014 11:16 HighTimeDotA wrote:
for those who are whining about 2 chinese team in the finals: have you watched this game called starcraft? who cares where the team/players are from, quality games is all that matters.


With these chinese teams the gap doesn't feel that immense. It's about the patience and mechanical discipline to not whiff games like Western teams do (badish example but look at c9's group stage losses). There's no particular part of their play that's especially charismatic. Though that could also be down to exposure and simply not noticing what makes them so great and why you should care.



I highly disagree that chinese teams are about patience to not throw games. I feel like along side Cloud9 the team that "threw" the highest amount of games was... DK. Seriously, it's like they are completely incapable of closing out a game ( t.t).

I don't think there is a distinctive style difference between East and West atm, it's about execution and East was better this year.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44095 Posts
July 21 2014 03:55 GMT
#6486
On July 21 2014 12:12 writer22816 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2014 11:06 goody153 wrote:
On July 21 2014 11:00 Kipsate wrote:
On July 21 2014 10:55 goody153 wrote:
On July 21 2014 10:49 Fwizzz wrote:
Why do a lot of people hate the chinese?
Chinese dota is so boring because of late game farming.
Chinese dota is so boring because of early game pushing.
Which is essentially like western play style.
Why do you want them to do lose the game?


Chinese teams are ok. I liked newbee(just because they beat DK badly on one time period i have a thing on teams that beat fan favorites). At least for me. Part of the reason is that it's sort of anticlimactic to have chinese vs chinese cause it's a global competition so i it would be nice to have a hyped east vs west. Part of the reason is that not really wanting dota 2 to become like starcraft scene.

Maybe for others it's more like Newbee vs VG is really anticlimactic since they are the least likable chinese team i think. IG and DK has so many fans while newbee has opterown and idk who are the VG fnatics but i know people love ROTK.

So the top 8 is 5 Chinese teams and 3 Western teams, various teams took multiple games off various chinese teams (Newbee was 7-8, LGD was 7-8.

TI3 was Western vs Western?Did you dislike that final?

Although it was west vs west. It wasn't really anticlimactic. And even if it was west vs west. It was Ukraine + Estonia + Germany vs Sweden. So it had the international feeling that it gave. unlike this TI4 which is chinese vs chinese . I don' really mind if chinese win or makes it to grand finals every year. As long as it's chinese vs something else so that it feels like a global competition. Not another chinese tournament. That's really my only complain.

Not to mention it was the match most hated team in the world vs the most like team in the world. And the most hated team in the world was a unstoppable juggernaut while na'vi was the only only that looked to beat alliance that time. So it was hyped as fuck.

Seriously that was a really sick story line to follow.


Maybe you should go read a book if you want a sick storyline to follow? People like you in this thread are the most impossible to understand. This is a tournament. The purpose is to determine who is the best team in the world. Every team enters with the purpose of placing as high as possible. They don't care a fig about entertaining you or producing "good storylines". All these teams whose playstyles people arbitrarily like, they don't play that way because they care about you. They play that way because it wins them the most games and they'd change their playstyle in an instant if they found a superior one.

That's why I find all these people bitching about boring games to be a little ridiculous too. To me the most beautiful playstyle is the one that wins you the most games, whether it's 4 protect 1, 5 man, early push, split push, facerush, whatever. Wouldn't you rather support a team that always asks itself "how can I win?", rather than a team that insults your intelligence by asking "how can I entertain the crowd?"

Are you serious ? it's like you are saying you can watch dota 2 without commentary.

Please esports is not fun to watch solely because of beautiful gameplay. It's a package deal Gameplay + storyline. If you just wanted gameplay you can go watch the game and mute the casters since you like watching it like godly AI's playing against each other.
this is a quote
CherryNubCakes
Profile Joined July 2012
United States972 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-21 03:55:51
July 21 2014 03:55 GMT
#6487
Will this be available to watch later? I missed the first bit, want to see the rotk interview.
Count9
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China10928 Posts
July 21 2014 03:58 GMT
#6488
noo panel no, don't predict VG. They're doomed
Noya
Profile Joined April 2013
Uruguay11223 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-21 03:59:46
July 21 2014 03:58 GMT
#6489
seriously who names their team "newbie"
also Sheever has so much makeup it's about to drop
Count9
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China10928 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-21 04:00:08
July 21 2014 03:59 GMT
#6490
On July 21 2014 12:58 Noya wrote:
seriously who names their team "newbie"

millionaires?

heh, 2gd had to get panel mmr out on live tv
yyfpulls
Profile Joined November 2012
United States2185 Posts
July 21 2014 04:00 GMT
#6491
Yay I caught the last 30 seconds. Was this live?
Iceman331
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1306 Posts
July 21 2014 04:00 GMT
#6492
On July 21 2014 12:58 Noya wrote:
seriously who names their team "newbie"


People who don't give a fuck what anyone thinks because they are going to pwn your noob ass anyways.
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
July 21 2014 04:00 GMT
#6493
alright well that was cute i guess
:)
trifecta
Profile Joined April 2010
United States6795 Posts
July 21 2014 04:00 GMT
#6494
On July 21 2014 12:55 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2014 12:12 writer22816 wrote:
On July 21 2014 11:06 goody153 wrote:
On July 21 2014 11:00 Kipsate wrote:
On July 21 2014 10:55 goody153 wrote:
On July 21 2014 10:49 Fwizzz wrote:
Why do a lot of people hate the chinese?
Chinese dota is so boring because of late game farming.
Chinese dota is so boring because of early game pushing.
Which is essentially like western play style.
Why do you want them to do lose the game?


Chinese teams are ok. I liked newbee(just because they beat DK badly on one time period i have a thing on teams that beat fan favorites). At least for me. Part of the reason is that it's sort of anticlimactic to have chinese vs chinese cause it's a global competition so i it would be nice to have a hyped east vs west. Part of the reason is that not really wanting dota 2 to become like starcraft scene.

Maybe for others it's more like Newbee vs VG is really anticlimactic since they are the least likable chinese team i think. IG and DK has so many fans while newbee has opterown and idk who are the VG fnatics but i know people love ROTK.

So the top 8 is 5 Chinese teams and 3 Western teams, various teams took multiple games off various chinese teams (Newbee was 7-8, LGD was 7-8.

TI3 was Western vs Western?Did you dislike that final?

Although it was west vs west. It wasn't really anticlimactic. And even if it was west vs west. It was Ukraine + Estonia + Germany vs Sweden. So it had the international feeling that it gave. unlike this TI4 which is chinese vs chinese . I don' really mind if chinese win or makes it to grand finals every year. As long as it's chinese vs something else so that it feels like a global competition. Not another chinese tournament. That's really my only complain.

Not to mention it was the match most hated team in the world vs the most like team in the world. And the most hated team in the world was a unstoppable juggernaut while na'vi was the only only that looked to beat alliance that time. So it was hyped as fuck.

Seriously that was a really sick story line to follow.


Maybe you should go read a book if you want a sick storyline to follow? People like you in this thread are the most impossible to understand. This is a tournament. The purpose is to determine who is the best team in the world. Every team enters with the purpose of placing as high as possible. They don't care a fig about entertaining you or producing "good storylines". All these teams whose playstyles people arbitrarily like, they don't play that way because they care about you. They play that way because it wins them the most games and they'd change their playstyle in an instant if they found a superior one.

That's why I find all these people bitching about boring games to be a little ridiculous too. To me the most beautiful playstyle is the one that wins you the most games, whether it's 4 protect 1, 5 man, early push, split push, facerush, whatever. Wouldn't you rather support a team that always asks itself "how can I win?", rather than a team that insults your intelligence by asking "how can I entertain the crowd?"

Are you serious ? it's like you are saying you can watch dota 2 without commentary.

Please esports is not fun to watch solely because of beautiful gameplay. It's a package deal Gameplay + storyline. If you just wanted gameplay you can go watch the game and mute the casters since you like watching it like godly AI's playing against each other.


watching dota 2 without commentary is actually fine imo. you should try it before you knock it. also I've been to pubstomps at bars where the commentary audio was too low to comprehend and that too was fine.
Count9
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China10928 Posts
July 21 2014 04:01 GMT
#6495
that was pretty cool, about what I expected. Professionally done, nothing over the top or mind blowing but should get the attention of a couple people who don't know what to watch so they watched espn2.
wuhan_clan
Profile Joined April 2012
United States5609 Posts
July 21 2014 04:03 GMT
#6496
A pretty good ESPN segment overall. I thought it did the game and the players justice. It was also a bit funny to see how James's behavior changed from group stage to main stage to t.v. stage.
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19343 Posts
July 21 2014 04:04 GMT
#6497
KT FINGERBOOM WAS AND STILL THE BEST TEAM NAME IN THE HISTORY OF ESPORTS

im willing to be corrected
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Iceman331
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1306 Posts
July 21 2014 04:05 GMT
#6498
On July 21 2014 13:03 wuhan_clan wrote:
A pretty good ESPN segment overall. I thought it did the game and the players justice. It was also a bit funny to see how James's behavior changed from group stage to main stage to t.v. stage.


Different stage, different audience. He has come a long ways from these days.
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
July 21 2014 04:05 GMT
#6499
On July 21 2014 13:04 icystorage wrote:
KT FINGERBOOM WAS AND STILL THE BEST TEAM NAME IN THE HISTORY OF ESPORTS

im willing to be corrected


I like PotM bottom personally.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
July 21 2014 04:06 GMT
#6500
I missed the last bit, can anyone quickly recap what was previewed/said?
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