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On August 11 2013 09:11 OfficeBrahzz wrote:
i dont understand what they saying about
"wait for 1 hero to be alone with BKB. alliance strategy is to get a hero with a BKB singled out"
why exactly is the hero with BKB singled out ??? what is this commentator talking about? BKB gives you magic immunity.
Naga song sleeps everyone, except if you have magic immunity.
If you use sleep and Gyro has bkb on, he's isolated.
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On August 11 2013 09:11 OfficeBrahzz wrote:
i dont understand what they saying about
"wait for 1 hero to be alone with BKB. alliance strategy is to get a hero with a BKB singled out"
why exactly is the hero with BKB singled out ??? what is this commentator talking about?
Sleep doesn't go thru magic immunity, so the BKB user is singled out.
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On August 11 2013 09:11 OfficeBrahzz wrote:
i dont understand what they saying about
"wait for 1 hero to be alone with BKB. alliance strategy is to get a hero with a BKB singled out"
why exactly is the hero with BKB singled out ??? what is this commentator talking about?
song doesn't affect bkb
naga uses it when hvost bkbs and alliance wrecks him while na'vi watches
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+ Show Spoiler +is there still a chance for a comeback or can i catch some sleep? 
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+ Show Spoiler ++ Show Spoiler ++ Show Spoiler ++ Show Spoiler ++ Show Spoiler ++ Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/SYTdzRF.png) Natus Vincere vs. Alliance ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/Zg24hcn.png)
The International 2013 Upper Bracket Round 3a Game 1 -- Bounty starts with boots, has been roaming, blocking camps, harassing WR. 4:20 Alch gets Midas. 5:20 Dire Bot T1 goes down. 6:00 Chen goes mid, Skywrath gets coiled, but SK teleports in and Puck gives up first blood instead. Radiant up 1 tower. 7:30 WR gets caught farming ancients and dies. - Radiant Top T1 goes down. 8:00 Bounty gets dusted behind the Bot T2 and dies. - Dire Bot T2 goes down. 8:50 Puck gets stunned by SK in mid and blown up by the Skywrath ult. 10:50 Alch gets Shadow Blade. 11:00 Dire go in mid and get Skywrath, SK & Wisp. - Song disengages when Gyro comes in. 12:30 Naga dies in mid to Skywrath. 13:30 Chen gets Mek. Radiant up 1 tower. 14:20 Gyro gets caught in Radiant woods but uses call down and man fights, before Wisp relocates him to safety at a sliver of health. - Bounty& Puck die for WR & SK. Puck buys back 15:50 Radiant Bot T1 goes down. 17:40 Gyro gets BKB 18:30 Alch gets BKB. 19:10 Dire get ROSH, Alch gets Aegis. - Radiant Top T1 gets denied. 21:20 Radiant Mid T1 goes down. 22:00 Blink coil gets Skywrath and Wisp in mid. Radiant down 1 tower.
-- Dire keep pushing mid.
23:30 Blink coil gets SK & Wisp
- Gyro gets Ensnared, then song to isolate him during BKB. He dies
- Radiant get wiped
- Radiant lose mid melee rax.
- Fight claims SK & Skywrath, Naga, Bounty.
25:40 Bounty gets BKB, Puck gets Eu;'s
Radiant down 5 towers and 1 Melee rax.
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On August 11 2013 09:12 kaztah wrote:
I think people forget that navi always loses a game in a bo3, normally the first one. This isnt exactly surprising
Yeah, they usually do.
Plus, I've seen even crazier combacks happen before
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On August 11 2013 09:11 OfficeBrahzz wrote:
i dont understand what they saying about
"wait for 1 hero to be alone with BKB. alliance strategy is to get a hero with a BKB singled out"
why exactly is the hero with BKB singled out ??? what is this commentator talking about?
Because naga song doesn't go through BKB, a song will isolate any heroes with magic immunity activated
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Bearded Elder29903 Posts
I'm wondering how would Pudge pick work against Alliance.
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On August 11 2013 09:11 OfficeBrahzz wrote:
i dont understand what they saying about
"wait for 1 hero to be alone with BKB. alliance strategy is to get a hero with a BKB singled out"
why exactly is the hero with BKB singled out ??? what is this commentator talking about?
Siren song makes everyone invulnerable and makes them sleeping. Except if you're magic immune. So they wait til he pops bkb, and then sleeps his team so they can kill him alone
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alchemist the speedhack hero
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On August 11 2013 09:12 Jehct wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2013 09:11 Colston wrote:On August 11 2013 09:10 Jehct wrote:
Alliance's draft & play just too solid and versatile
kinda surprised they didn't do the normal xboct in front to bait fights, kuro + 1 repeatedly getting initiated on sealed things for na'vi no? Using your carry to bait against concoction, ensnare, orb + silence and track doesn't sound like the greatest idea if I'm going to be honest. ? there's no instant disable and he has bkb it's the naga sleep that stops it, as draskyl said
Shadowblade concoction?
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On August 11 2013 09:11 Nocticate wrote:
I wonder when teams will figure Alliance out. Doesn't seem like anyone has. They just win the chess game; their play itself isn't much better than other teams'.
ummm, Yeah it is.
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feels like Na'Vi has really been drafting poorly lately. Hope they can do their thing and win the second 2 games after dropping the first..
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On August 11 2013 09:10 clusen wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2013 09:10 Numy wrote:
Navi wisp isn't looking that hot. They moved around so much that he only got 6 at like 13 minutes. Not the super early level 6 you see other teams going for. They had Bulldog messing up their jungle, and I don't understand picking SK as your third pick over Puck
SK has ~14% winrate in TI3 IIRC. After this game it looks like it will be 12.5%
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On August 11 2013 09:11 OfficeBrahzz wrote:
i dont understand what they saying about
"wait for 1 hero to be alone with BKB. alliance strategy is to get a hero with a BKB singled out"
why exactly is the hero with BKB singled out ??? what is this commentator talking about?
Once naga sings the heroe with bkb is not affected turning it in a 5o1.
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On August 11 2013 09:08 onlywonderboy wrote:People were saying that's one of the big problems with Skywrath Mage.
it's a problem when you rely on aoe magic wombo combo (burrow-epi, calldown, skywrath, power shot) v alch, who farms bkb really fast and chen with mek and hand of god. It takes a while for gyro to build physical damage and so there's this huge timing window. Once the bkb time on alch gets low, magic damage already fell off.
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On August 11 2013 09:11 Nocticate wrote:
I wonder when teams will figure Alliance out. Doesn't seem like anyone has. They just win the chess game; their play itself isn't much better than other teams'.
they do fairly early rosh every game, why teams keep giving it to them
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The rapier is coming ladies and gentlemen.
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Hopefully Na'vi drafts better next game
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