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teapoted
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom24425 Posts
August 11 2013 00:12 GMT
#3801
On August 11 2013 09:11 OfficeBrahzz wrote:
i dont understand what they saying about


"wait for 1 hero to be alone with BKB. alliance strategy is to get a hero with a BKB singled out"


why exactly is the hero with BKB singled out ??? what is this commentator talking about?
BKB gives you magic immunity.

Naga song sleeps everyone, except if you have magic immunity.

If you use sleep and Gyro has bkb on, he's isolated.
Once you Goblak...
trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
August 11 2013 00:12 GMT
#3802
On August 11 2013 09:11 OfficeBrahzz wrote:
i dont understand what they saying about


"wait for 1 hero to be alone with BKB. alliance strategy is to get a hero with a BKB singled out"


why exactly is the hero with BKB singled out ??? what is this commentator talking about?


Sleep doesn't go thru magic immunity, so the BKB user is singled out.
dmnum
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Brazil6910 Posts
August 11 2013 00:12 GMT
#3803
On August 11 2013 09:11 OfficeBrahzz wrote:
i dont understand what they saying about


"wait for 1 hero to be alone with BKB. alliance strategy is to get a hero with a BKB singled out"


why exactly is the hero with BKB singled out ??? what is this commentator talking about?

song doesn't affect bkb
naga uses it when hvost bkbs and alliance wrecks him while na'vi watches
75
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany4057 Posts
August 11 2013 00:12 GMT
#3804
noobquestion
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is there still a chance for a comeback or can i catch some sleep?
yo twitch, as long as I can watch 480p lagfree I'm happy
juff
Profile Joined March 2011
Singapore4659 Posts
August 11 2013 00:12 GMT
#3805
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[image loading] Natus Vincere vs. Alliance [image loading]

The International 2013 Upper Bracket Round 3a Game 1


ALLIANCE:
(Loda), (s4), (AdmiralBulldog), (Akke), (EGM)


NATUS VINCERE:
(Xboct), [image loading](Dendi), (Funn1k), (Puppey), (KuroKy)

[image loading][image loading] TOP

[image loading] MID

BOT [image loading][image loading]

WOODS


-- Bounty starts with boots, has been roaming, blocking camps, harassing WR.

4:20 Alch gets Midas.

5:20 Dire Bot T1 goes down.

6:00 Chen goes mid, Skywrath gets coiled, but SK teleports in and Puck gives up first blood instead.

[image loading] [image loading] 1 : 0 [image loading]

Radiant up 1 tower.

7:30 WR gets caught farming ancients and dies.
- Radiant Top T1 goes down.

8:00 Bounty gets dusted behind the Bot T2 and dies.
- Dire Bot T2 goes down.

8:50 Puck gets stunned by SK in mid and blown up by the Skywrath ult.

10:50 Alch gets Shadow Blade.

11:00 Dire go in mid and get Skywrath, SK & Wisp.
- Song disengages when Gyro comes in.

12:30 Naga dies in mid to Skywrath.

13:30 Chen gets Mek.

[image loading] [image loading] 5 : 4 [image loading]

Radiant up 1 tower.

14:20 Gyro gets caught in Radiant woods but uses call down and man fights, before Wisp relocates him to safety at a sliver of health.
- Bounty& Puck die for WR & SK. Puck buys back

15:50 Radiant Bot T1 goes down.

[image loading] [image loading] 7 : 6 [image loading]

17:40 Gyro gets BKB

18:30 Alch gets BKB.

19:10 Dire get ROSH, Alch gets Aegis.
- Radiant Top T1 gets denied.

21:20 Radiant Mid T1 goes down.

22:00 Blink coil gets Skywrath and Wisp in mid.

[image loading] [image loading] 7 : 6 [image loading]

Radiant down 1 tower.

-- Dire keep pushing mid.
23:30 Blink coil gets SK & Wisp
- Gyro gets Ensnared, then song to isolate him during BKB. He dies
- Radiant get wiped
- Radiant lose mid melee rax.
- Fight claims SK & Skywrath, Naga, Bounty.

25:40 Bounty gets BKB, Puck gets Eu;'s

[image loading] [image loading] 9 : 15 [image loading]

Radiant down 5 towers and 1 Melee rax.
WindWolf
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden11767 Posts
August 11 2013 00:12 GMT
#3806
On August 11 2013 09:12 kaztah wrote:
I think people forget that navi always loses a game in a bo3, normally the first one. This isnt exactly surprising

Yeah, they usually do.

Plus, I've seen even crazier combacks happen before
EZ4ENCE
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
August 11 2013 00:12 GMT
#3807
On August 11 2013 09:11 OfficeBrahzz wrote:
i dont understand what they saying about


"wait for 1 hero to be alone with BKB. alliance strategy is to get a hero with a BKB singled out"


why exactly is the hero with BKB singled out ??? what is this commentator talking about?

Because naga song doesn't go through BKB, a song will isolate any heroes with magic immunity activated
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29904 Posts
August 11 2013 00:12 GMT
#3808
I'm wondering how would Pudge pick work against Alliance.
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
kaztah
Profile Joined September 2010
Norway1221 Posts
August 11 2013 00:12 GMT
#3809
On August 11 2013 09:11 OfficeBrahzz wrote:
i dont understand what they saying about


"wait for 1 hero to be alone with BKB. alliance strategy is to get a hero with a BKB singled out"


why exactly is the hero with BKB singled out ??? what is this commentator talking about?

Siren song makes everyone invulnerable and makes them sleeping. Except if you're magic immune. So they wait til he pops bkb, and then sleeps his team so they can kill him alone
I speak fluent sarcasm.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44277 Posts
August 11 2013 00:12 GMT
#3810
alchemist the speedhack hero
this is a quote
Colston
Profile Joined November 2012
Norway279 Posts
August 11 2013 00:12 GMT
#3811
On August 11 2013 09:12 Jehct wrote:
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On August 11 2013 09:11 Colston wrote:
On August 11 2013 09:10 Jehct wrote:
Alliance's draft & play just too solid and versatile

kinda surprised they didn't do the normal xboct in front to bait fights, kuro + 1 repeatedly getting initiated on sealed things for na'vi no?

Using your carry to bait against concoction, ensnare, orb + silence and track doesn't sound like the greatest idea if I'm going to be honest.

? there's no instant disable and he has bkb

it's the naga sleep that stops it, as draskyl said

Shadowblade concoction?
He who knows when he can fight and when he cannot, will be victorious. - Sun Tzu | TaeJa | Jjakji | Jaedong
Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
August 11 2013 00:12 GMT
#3812
On August 11 2013 09:11 Nocticate wrote:
I wonder when teams will figure Alliance out. Doesn't seem like anyone has. They just win the chess game; their play itself isn't much better than other teams'.

ummm, Yeah it is.
AimForTheBushes
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1760 Posts
August 11 2013 00:12 GMT
#3813
feels like Na'Vi has really been drafting poorly lately. Hope they can do their thing and win the second 2 games after dropping the first..
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
August 11 2013 00:13 GMT
#3814
On August 11 2013 09:10 clusen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2013 09:10 Numy wrote:
Navi wisp isn't looking that hot. They moved around so much that he only got 6 at like 13 minutes. Not the super early level 6 you see other teams going for.

They had Bulldog messing up their jungle, and I don't understand picking SK as your third pick over Puck

SK has ~14% winrate in TI3 IIRC. After this game it looks like it will be 12.5%
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15846 Posts
August 11 2013 00:13 GMT
#3815
On August 11 2013 09:11 OfficeBrahzz wrote:
i dont understand what they saying about


"wait for 1 hero to be alone with BKB. alliance strategy is to get a hero with a BKB singled out"


why exactly is the hero with BKB singled out ??? what is this commentator talking about?

Once naga sings the heroe with bkb is not affected turning it in a 5o1.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
Nomzter
Profile Joined March 2012
Sweden2802 Posts
August 11 2013 00:13 GMT
#3816
Alliance so good
trifecta
Profile Joined April 2010
United States6795 Posts
August 11 2013 00:13 GMT
#3817
On August 11 2013 09:08 onlywonderboy wrote:
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On August 11 2013 09:07 trifecta wrote:
navi does so little damage v. bkb.

People were saying that's one of the big problems with Skywrath Mage.


it's a problem when you rely on aoe magic wombo combo (burrow-epi, calldown, skywrath, power shot) v alch, who farms bkb really fast and chen with mek and hand of god. It takes a while for gyro to build physical damage and so there's this huge timing window. Once the bkb time on alch gets low, magic damage already fell off.
zezamer
Profile Joined March 2011
Finland5701 Posts
August 11 2013 00:13 GMT
#3818
On August 11 2013 09:11 Nocticate wrote:
I wonder when teams will figure Alliance out. Doesn't seem like anyone has. They just win the chess game; their play itself isn't much better than other teams'.

they do fairly early rosh every game, why teams keep giving it to them
Iceman331
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1306 Posts
August 11 2013 00:13 GMT
#3819
The rapier is coming ladies and gentlemen.
hadang
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany941 Posts
August 11 2013 00:13 GMT
#3820
Hopefully Na'vi drafts better next game
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