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On April 01 2013 10:50 Ryder. wrote:
When laning as beastmaster, what should I be doing with my summons? Alttab guides says to max them first, and obviously you use the hawk as a makeshift ward, but what should I be doing with the dog? It is hard to harass enemies with since so squishy and does pretty shitty damage anyway...do I just use it to help last hit/deny?

On April 01 2013 13:26 TheYango wrote:
Cast point is the amount of time the animation has to play before the skill goes off. If you issue the "stop" command or you lose vision/get stunned/etc. during this animation, it will interrupt the skill and the skill won't be cast.

Backswing is the amount of time AFTER the spell goes off where the hero will continue to play a cast animation. You CAN issue another order to the unit during this time (typically attack or movement), and it will perform that order overriding the spell animation. However, if you shift-queue commands, the hero will finish playing the backswing animation before continuing onto the next issued order.

Likewise with attacks--if you issue an attack order on an enemy you are chasing, your hero will finish the attack backswing before continuing to chase if you just right-click them and don't do anything more, but if you issue a move command during the backswing, you can move during the time where the time the backswing animation should be playing.

Note that this CANNOT actually be used to attack faster, it only allows you to perform other non-attack actions (such as using skills or moving) during the time when the backswing animation would normally be playing. Also, attack point animations can be interrupted through any alternative actions such as moving or casting, while you can only interrupt a cast point animation using the "stop" command.

EDIT: To observe this effect in a game, create a game with Nature's Prophet, and cast Sprout on an enemy target, then don't click anything. Note that Prophet will have his hand raised for about a second after the trees already appear before he starts attacking the Sprouted target. Then do the same thing but right-click or a-click the target IMMEDIATELY after the trees appear. Prophet will immediately attack out of his hand-raised backswing animation rather than waiting out the entire animation.

On April 01 2013 13:26 TheYango wrote:
Cast point is the amount of time the animation has to play before the skill goes off. If you issue the "stop" command or you lose vision/get stunned/etc. during this animation, it will interrupt the skill and the skill won't be cast.

Backswing is the amount of time AFTER the spell goes off where the hero will continue to play a cast animation. You CAN issue another order to the unit during this time (typically attack or movement), and it will perform that order overriding the spell animation. However, if you shift-queue commands, the hero will finish playing the backswing animation before continuing onto the next issued order.

Likewise with attacks--if you issue an attack order on an enemy you are chasing, your hero will finish the attack backswing before continuing to chase if you just right-click them and don't do anything more, but if you issue a move command during the backswing, you can move during the time where the time the backswing animation should be playing.

Note that this CANNOT actually be used to attack faster, it only allows you to perform other non-attack actions (such as using skills or moving) during the time when the backswing animation would normally be playing. Also, attack point animations can be interrupted through any alternative actions such as moving or casting, while you can only interrupt a cast point animation using the "stop" command.

EDIT: To observe this effect in a game, create a game with Nature's Prophet, and cast Sprout on an enemy target, then don't click anything. Note that Prophet will have his hand raised for about a second after the trees already appear before he starts attacking the Sprouted target. Then do the same thing but right-click or a-click the target IMMEDIATELY after the trees appear. Prophet will immediately attack out of his hand-raised backswing animation rather than waiting out the entire animation.

On April 01 2013 16:42 Rodberd wrote:
for LD skills:
Q E Q E Q R Q E E (max W last)
(the bear gets entangle with the 3rd skillpoint, so you could go gank here)

items:
bear: phaseboots, veno-orb for early, later on maelstrom (or armlet, seems almost equal except aoe from maelsstrom), basher

LD: tranquils, the bigger stuff like AC i tend to leave it on LD.

also 2x midas can work.
one on bear and one on LD. just exchange when off CD so LD gets faster midas-charges

On April 01 2013 10:50 Ryder. wrote:
When laning as beastmaster, what should I be doing with my summons? Alttab guides says to max them first, and obviously you use the hawk as a makeshift ward, but what should I be doing with the dog? It is hard to harass enemies with since so squishy and does pretty shitty damage anyway...do I just use it to help last hit/deny?