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sCuMBaG
Profile Joined August 2006
United Kingdom1144 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-08 15:59:41
September 08 2017 15:58 GMT
#24781
On September 06 2017 20:15 314159271828 wrote:
Usually play around in a solo-bot game to warm up, but decided to play unranked for warm-up to change things up. No-one is marking anything or saying anything, no-one is picking. Whatever as time is about to run out, I pick Viper mid for a chill game. Here's what proceeds to happen: 2nd pick is jungle Tinker then 3rd pick offlane Sniper, 4th pick am safelane and last pick QoP...

What is it about video games that seems to attract the worst subhuman scum? Genuine question.


It's actually exactly the opposite for me.

Unranked seems to be pretty chilled and most of the time even decent picks.
Wheras ranked games always end up in 3 people marking mid, 4 people picking cores and everyone being a dick.

It's gone so far, that I just completely stopped playing solo ranked - I just can't be asked anymore - after a 14 straight games loss streak which got me to under 4.5k again.
When there's no one to play some games with I usually just mess around in unranked - or just go play some SC:R
aj1
Profile Joined September 2017
1 Post
September 12 2017 05:35 GMT
#24782
anyone pls help
i've stucked at 4k at sea for 2 years or more.
i've tried my best, im a very calm player, i learned to not interupt other player until end and keep empowering my teammates to win every single game. but, its just useless. now im at 4,5 mmr.
my role is support, but i usually play offlane and 4th role. but sometimes i do mid lane.

anyone pls give me some tips, how to get out from this 4k sea toxic
https://www.dotabuff.com/players/252186657
harodihg
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Japan1344 Posts
September 12 2017 19:54 GMT
#24783
Watch your own replays and focus on tiny things you could be doing better and try to justify every action you make. Consider other possible things you could be doing as well.

For example, if the time is 6 minutes in and the offlaner has a lot of farm think about how you could have better zoned him out and won your safe lane instead of letting him get so much.

Just create a list of things in your games that you think can be improved upon, e.g. Better zoning offlaner, more effective ganking, better yeamfight positioning, more efficient stacking/rotations

Then try to devise ways to actually do those things through sight micro adjustments in your play
Agh's ult sniper: Sniper locks eyes with target unit, immobilizing them in horror as he turns the gun on himself. Channeled, lasts 5 seconds.
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
11964 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-13 15:14:53
September 13 2017 15:13 GMT
#24784
As always, the best way to climb in mmr is to pick a few heroes, around 3 is usually fine but 2 or optimally 1 is better. Then only play those, that way you can improve the hero specific choices by actually getting to try your ideas out the next game. Since we also want to climb quickly we go to:
https://www.dotabuff.com/heroes/meta

Then pick from the top 15 heroes in our current bracket or the one above. Pick ones you would enjoy and the closer to the highest win rate the better. Spirit Breaker seems like a good hero since you play offlane/4 and he can do both (he can also scale well into late game with perma bashes). Necrophos is a totally different style of hero so might not fit together that well in play style but it could do the mid/offlane roles.

Then once you have your heroes, play 2-3 unranked with them before the first ranked, just to get used to them. Then start playing and adapting the hero to the game and try out what works for you and what doesn't. You get much more time spent improving on general stuff with a small hero pool. With a big pool you spend more time trying to improve on the hero basics than general stuff.
neozxa
Profile Joined August 2011
Indonesia545 Posts
September 17 2017 13:37 GMT
#24785
how do you lane against a razor or viper as a meele hero? do you just play until the creeps reach to your tower in which case you pull the creeps near your own t2 so that you can lasthit without getting harassed or do you just decide to say fuck it and try to just leech xp and get runes then go jungle to catch up on farm in the midgame?

if there was a specific meele hero im talking about, its ember spirit against those 2.
Keep moving forward
harodihg
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Japan1344 Posts
September 17 2017 15:23 GMT
#24786
does aether lens work for radiance? if so in what way

Agh's ult sniper: Sniper locks eyes with target unit, immobilizing them in horror as he turns the gun on himself. Channeled, lasts 5 seconds.
harodihg
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Japan1344 Posts
September 17 2017 15:26 GMT
#24787
On September 17 2017 22:37 neozxa wrote:
how do you lane against a razor or viper as a meele hero? do you just play until the creeps reach to your tower in which case you pull the creeps near your own t2 so that you can lasthit without getting harassed or do you just decide to say fuck it and try to just leech xp and get runes then go jungle to catch up on farm in the midgame?

if there was a specific meele hero im talking about, its ember spirit against those 2.


you just don't win the lane

with that being said, there's a good number of small things you can do to gain advantages

#1) abuse vision and make sure they feel threatened

this isn't something you can do alone, but if you make sure to deward any potential ward that they might have mid then they can no longer see supports rotating which will make them not want to stand on your highground

this means that you want to try and keep the wave JUST under your side of the river, not on it, meaning you can grab a last hit or two per wave

#2) stacks. just go stack and shit if you can't lane and have a support sit mid and soak XP - it's better off for your team

#3) really emphasizing #1.... if they play too aggressive just kill them. if they dont then abuse vision and get what you can
Agh's ult sniper: Sniper locks eyes with target unit, immobilizing them in horror as he turns the gun on himself. Channeled, lasts 5 seconds.
Velzi
Profile Joined June 2012
Finland659 Posts
September 17 2017 15:41 GMT
#24788
On September 18 2017 00:23 harodihg wrote:
does aether lens work for radiance? if so in what way


Range increase doesn't work for radiance, however +6% spell damage does.
Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you to their level and then beat you with experience. http://www.dotabuff.com/players/115305822 https://yasp.co/players/115305822
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
September 24 2017 13:09 GMT
#24789
On September 17 2017 22:37 neozxa wrote:
how do you lane against a razor or viper as a meele hero? do you just play until the creeps reach to your tower in which case you pull the creeps near your own t2 so that you can lasthit without getting harassed or do you just decide to say fuck it and try to just leech xp and get runes then go jungle to catch up on farm in the midgame?

if there was a specific meele hero im talking about, its ember spirit against those 2.

buy boots before bottle
aggro the creeps as much as you can
ask for ganks if the opponent sits on ur side of the river
have a tp ready for your sidelanes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
Subtle_Art1
Profile Joined September 2017
1 Post
September 28 2017 16:36 GMT
#24790
Any hard and fast rule for when to build Vlads or Mask on offlane void?
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
September 28 2017 18:28 GMT
#24791
depends on how soon u can get it, and if the game is 5v5 fest or farmfest
farmfest u go mom, for teamfighting u get vlads
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
Bleak
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Turkey3059 Posts
September 29 2017 20:40 GMT
#24792
How can I get back into the game? I havent played since 2015 August. What do I need to look out for?
"I am a beacon of knowledge blazing out across a black sea of ignorance. "
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
September 29 2017 20:52 GMT
#24793
On September 30 2017 05:40 Bleak wrote:
How can I get back into the game? I havent played since 2015 August. What do I need to look out for?

Well, the map is pretty different and there are talents now. And obviously lots of heroes have changes to their abilities, although pretty few full reworks.

Really just jump in a bot game and run around the map learning about the new creep camps, new bounty spawns, and new levelling. Your biggest issue will probably be the lack of MMR decay once you go back to playing pubs (ranked or unranked, doesn't matter). You'll be playing against players roughly as good as you were when you left, but who know all the new stuff, so you might have a rough time at first.

A quick TLDR of talents is that you can't level stats anymore, but instead you get a hero-specific choice between 2 buffs at levels 10, 15, 20 and 25. These range from stats like Strength, mana or movespeed to spell-specific upgrades like "-1s Blink Cooldown" on AM or "Reincarnation has no mana cost" on Wraith King. Ultimate now at levels 6, 12, and 18 but you reach those levels at the same XP total (roughly) as old 6, 11 and 16.
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nanaoei
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
3358 Posts
October 01 2017 06:25 GMT
#24794
play with a friend who still plays.

what happened to all the strategy forum posts?
*@boesthius' FF7 nostalgia stream bomb* "we should work on a 'Final Progamer' fangame»whitera can be a protagonist---lastlie: "we save world and then defense it"
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
October 01 2017 16:17 GMT
#24795
no new posts in 15days, so they disappeared
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
solidbebe
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4921 Posts
October 02 2017 15:54 GMT
#24796
liquiddota is dead is what happened
That's the 2nd time in a week I've seen someone sig a quote from this GD and I have never witnessed a sig quote happen in my TL history ever before. -Najda
harodihg
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Japan1344 Posts
October 02 2017 19:13 GMT
#24797
every dota forum is dying, seems like dota might just be dying in general
Agh's ult sniper: Sniper locks eyes with target unit, immobilizing them in horror as he turns the gun on himself. Channeled, lasts 5 seconds.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
October 02 2017 19:34 GMT
#24798
I mean the strategy section has been of dubious value for a long time. The strategy forum for starcraft was remarkably useful across skill levels, simply due to the nature of the game. Whereas in dota it's shockingly hard to have a valuable discussion between people with such varied skill levels. Especially considering the team aspect of the game.
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Rocket-Bear
Profile Joined July 2014
3070 Posts
October 03 2017 09:55 GMT
#24799
And compared to BW there are a lot more frequent patches in Dota that completely change how the hero is played. So guides and stuff gets outdated quite rather quickly.

i.e. Naga Siren has gone from Safe lane carry to mid to support to mid to support to offlane to mid and is nowadays safelane carry again?

Add to that how much the item builds changes depending on nerfs / buffs. And also when new items are introduced to the game. Another good example for that would be Tinker as Aether + Aghs is very common now where as years ago aghs didn't have an effect and aether wasn't even in the game.

Therefore maintaining guides is pretty difficult as they would have huge overhauls quite often.
Favorite players: Gh and Zai
Quenenty
Profile Joined September 2013
14 Posts
October 06 2017 02:04 GMT
#24800
advice please
I am 4.5k supp player on sea server
I'm starting to play carry recently
What I realize from my play is I die too much when i try to join fight in the middle game or even 5 man-ing late game

I dont really know how to approach fight
For example, in this match, I have a good start in the laning stage, but still struggle in the late game fight
https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/3484685588

dotabuff :
https://www.dotabuff.com/players/140810231/matches
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