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Geisterkarle
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Germany3257 Posts
January 22 2016 07:09 GMT
#23421
Well, liquipedia says "End Date:2016-1-31". So... a Friday to Sunday tournament? 29.-31.?

Another question: Because of the Captain's Draft Tournament I somehow looked at all the game-modes. And I wasn't aware that in ARDM there are three heroes not in the pool! Why is that? I understand Lone Druid, because if you die and had items on your bear they are lost for good. But Invoker and Meepo? Are they considered too strong for this mode? Or what is the reason behind that?
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Xxazn4lyfe51xX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States976 Posts
January 24 2016 10:00 GMT
#23422
Meepo was bugged at one point. Die as meepo and the game tried to give you as many heroes as meepos died. 4 meepo clones die? You get 4 heroes at once!

Sooo they just removed him.

Invoker the speculation is some weird interaction with orbs giving you stats or something, but I don't actually know.
Kreb
Profile Joined September 2010
4834 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-25 10:17:15
January 25 2016 10:14 GMT
#23423
Anyone know how the game calculates the damage done/taken of illusions created from illusions. Say an SD goes against a Spectre, Spectre haunts and SD disrupts the haunt illusion. Haunt illusion is 30% dmg dealth, 200% dmg taken, Disruption is 30-60% dmg dealth, 150% dmg taken. So what does the resulting illusions have? Still same as if it was from the main Spectre? Different?

Most notable probably when playing Morphling, do you care about replicating the main Naga/AM/Spectre or are you fine getting manta/haunt/mirror image ones?
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
January 25 2016 12:30 GMT
#23424
I wanna say illusions of illusions are the same
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
January 25 2016 15:05 GMT
#23425
On January 25 2016 21:30 ahswtini wrote:
I wanna say illusions of illusions are the same

correct
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fourthirds
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada132 Posts
January 25 2016 18:00 GMT
#23426
If glimpse is casted on you and then you self euls, do you get moved by glimpse or does euls cancel it?
BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8933 Posts
January 25 2016 18:48 GMT
#23427
iirc you will still get glimpsed if you are cyclone, even if you are still in the air at the moment the glimpse animation lands, you will be ported back to that spot.

abilities that remove you from the map GENERALLY break the glimpse if you are using them the moment that the glimpse lands (ie: you use sleight of fist and you're still jumping through targets when the animation completes) because you are considered invulnerable and off of the map.

but i THINK that puck's phase shift and OD's astral will not save you.
LiquidDota Staff@BluemoonGG_
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14912 Posts
January 25 2016 18:49 GMT
#23428
you get moved
Shock710
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia6097 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-26 03:58:37
January 26 2016 03:58 GMT
#23429
How much time is inbetween a hellbear being near 3 units and then casting his clap ( im curious for the actual number)
dAPhREAk gives Shock a * | [23:55] <Shock710> that was out of context -_- [16:26] <@motbob> Good question, Shock!
DazzleEnthusiast
Profile Joined May 2014
United States72 Posts
January 31 2016 14:37 GMT
#23430
when do i quas wex or quas exort on invoker? ive literally never played this dude and i think it's time to get better. . . also, should i take up invoke levels whenever they're available?
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
January 31 2016 15:44 GMT
#23431
On January 26 2016 12:58 Shock710 wrote:
How much time is inbetween a hellbear being near 3 units and then casting his clap ( im curious for the actual number)

idk hellbear and centaur stomps are rly inconsistent in my experience. sometimes they clap straight away, sometimes theres a delay
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Jonoman92
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States9110 Posts
January 31 2016 18:15 GMT
#23432
My naix got mad at me for using glimmer cape on him while he was manfighting a pa because he said when I cast the glimmer on him it causes him to stop attacking briefly. I am pretty sure he's full of crap. Is there any reason not to use glimmer on him? I mean, if he's still fighting it is a useless thing to do so I'm wasting the cooldown, but I don't think it harms anything.
Buckyman
Profile Joined May 2014
1364 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-31 20:24:26
January 31 2016 19:24 GMT
#23433
On February 01 2016 00:44 ahswtini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2016 12:58 Shock710 wrote:
How much time is inbetween a hellbear being near 3 units and then casting his clap ( im curious for the actual number)

idk hellbear and centaur stomps are rly inconsistent in my experience. sometimes they clap straight away, sometimes theres a delay


I think the inconsistency comes from the neutral units finishing their attack animation before using their spells.

(E): Confirmed. Centaurs finish their full attack animation before starting a stomp. I assume the same applies to other neutral units.

That means centaurs have a 0.5-1.1 second delay and hellbear smashers have a 0.5-1.02 second delay before the clap/stomp effect.
BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8933 Posts
January 31 2016 21:05 GMT
#23434
On January 31 2016 23:37 DazzleEnthusiast wrote:
when do i quas wex or quas exort on invoker? ive literally never played this dude and i think it's time to get better. . . also, should i take up invoke levels whenever they're available?


Yeah you should get invoke whenever available.

Wex exort if you want to deal damage.

Quas Wex if you want control and utility.

Very basic, but yeah
LiquidDota Staff@BluemoonGG_
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
January 31 2016 21:21 GMT
#23435
On February 01 2016 03:15 Jonoman92 wrote:
My naix got mad at me for using glimmer cape on him while he was manfighting a pa because he said when I cast the glimmer on him it causes him to stop attacking briefly. I am pretty sure he's full of crap. Is there any reason not to use glimmer on him? I mean, if he's still fighting it is a useless thing to do so I'm wasting the cooldown, but I don't think it harms anything.

ya he's full of shit. i tried it in a custom game, set a friendly bot to autoattack an enemy bot, then used glimmer on him. it didn't interrupt his attacking at all. also fine when i set the friendly bot to attack move (instead of directly right clicking on the enemy)
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
February 01 2016 01:29 GMT
#23436
On February 01 2016 06:21 ahswtini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2016 03:15 Jonoman92 wrote:
My naix got mad at me for using glimmer cape on him while he was manfighting a pa because he said when I cast the glimmer on him it causes him to stop attacking briefly. I am pretty sure he's full of crap. Is there any reason not to use glimmer on him? I mean, if he's still fighting it is a useless thing to do so I'm wasting the cooldown, but I don't think it harms anything.

ya he's full of shit. i tried it in a custom game, set a friendly bot to autoattack an enemy bot, then used glimmer on him. it didn't interrupt his attacking at all. also fine when i set the friendly bot to attack move (instead of directly right clicking on the enemy)

did you try it with auto-attack-after-spell both disabled and enabled? that shit randomly fucks with that kind of thing
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SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-01 03:46:13
February 01 2016 01:30 GMT
#23437
On February 01 2016 06:05 BluemoonSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2016 23:37 DazzleEnthusiast wrote:
when do i quas wex or quas exort on invoker? ive literally never played this dude and i think it's time to get better. . . also, should i take up invoke levels whenever they're available?


Yeah you should get invoke whenever available.

Wex exort if you want to deal damage.

Quas Wex if you want control and utility.

Very basic, but yeah

invoke whenever available is debatable as fuck...but 4 levels in invoke by 16/17 is standard-ish

the classic forge spirits exort waits till you're 414 or 404 (latter not recommended) for your 2nd point in invoke

there's an argument to be made for leaving it at 1 point until you decide you don't want to play with only 3 spells anymore (tornado emp coldsnap / sunstrike meatball deafening blast / forge spirits coldsnap sunstrikeordeafaningblastoralacrity)

invoker whiners who call out level 8 invokers for being "3 spell players" are hilarious imo

as for difference between wex and exort; wex also doesn't do as well during laning but can comfortably roam earlier, exort's kind of pressured to keep farming like a carry all game (wex can keep farming as well but can also play mostly like a 4 position in the grand scheme of things)
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evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8928 Posts
February 01 2016 03:44 GMT
#23438
yeah i dont get my 2nd point in invoke asap. you dont have enough levels in q/w/e to justify a shorter cooldown on your invoke.
you do want your 4th invoke at lvl 17 though, so make sure at you spend your points in invoke somewhere along the way
BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8933 Posts
February 01 2016 06:48 GMT
#23439
Eh, the simple answer for someone first learning would be sure and let them figure it out on their own. But i guess I wouldnt tell tinker players to take ultimate ASAP so yeah.
LiquidDota Staff@BluemoonGG_
Shock710
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia6097 Posts
February 02 2016 08:41 GMT
#23440
When u fatal bonds a creep with a hero, and the creep is consumed (somethin like clinkz's ulti or midas) does the hero take damage
dAPhREAk gives Shock a * | [23:55] <Shock710> that was out of context -_- [16:26] <@motbob> Good question, Shock!
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