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LAN-f34r
New Zealand2099 Posts
I would recommend playing a few co-op vs ai matches to practice everything - getting a feel of how to deny creeps, when they will aggro you, ect, without having to deal with people raging at you because you do something really stupid. Also, as support, make sure that you buy the courier at the start of the round and drop it (if no one else has). Oh, and if there is no ally in lane with you, try to get as many last hits as possible. | ||
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noD
2230 Posts
On March 22 2012 14:23 XChoke wrote: Awesome thanks - so much to take in... Looking at those guides now. I'll definitely go support and just stay with someone. I'm not sure what is meant by last hits etc and how that is a bad thing? u dont randomly hit creeps u try to only hit them for last hit so your lane don't advance and u get gankable (someone from other lane coming to get u) you only get gold if you give the killing blow hi to minions, if u did 99% damage but not the last hit you dont get gold... if u micro well in sc2 you can only try to kill minions non stop and i guarantee u will be better than 95% with only just that .... edit: also forget support they are way harder to play, just get an easy carry (str to start then agi when u feel confortable) I would actually suggest u to start with skeleton king .... | ||
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LuckoftheIrish
United States4791 Posts
On March 22 2012 17:06 LAN-f34r wrote: Actually, it can be bad if you are a support hero and there is another hero in lane. As a completely new player, it's better to just do it. Half the time the guy playing the carry in your lane will be awful at last hitting anyway, and you won't be taking anything away from him. | ||
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XChoke
Australia45 Posts
I think I'm starting to understand the basic economics of the game now - it's very different to sc2 but is it fair to say the the equivalent of "always build scv's and supply depots and expand management" (which forms the basis for almost any strategy in sc2) is something like: 1 - Only Micro kill last hit on creeps (same as building more scv's and expanding) and deny last hit on my own creeps if opponent is in lane. 2 - Spend gold (using item mule) at shops so that will help you stay in the lane a lot longer at the start (essentially not getting supply blocked in sc2 terms). Is this a sound place to start? I'm trying to draw analogies to sc2 as that is what I'm familar with. | ||
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writer22816
United States5775 Posts
On March 23 2012 10:00 XChoke wrote: Thanks I think that's help answer a few things for me! I was baffled after my last few games why my XP and gold per minute at the end of the match was so much lower than most of my other team. I think I'm starting to understand the basic economics of the game now - it's very different to sc2 but is it fair to say the the equivalent of "always build scv's and supply depots and expand management" (which forms the basis for almost any strategy in sc2) is something like: 1 - Only Micro kill last hit on creeps (same as building more scv's and expanding) and deny last hit on my own creeps if opponent is in lane. 2 - Spend gold (using item mule) at shops so that will help you stay in the lane a lot longer at the start (essentially not getting supply blocked in sc2 terms). Is this a sound place to start? I'm trying to draw analogies to sc2 as that is what I'm familar with. Not sure if you know this already but when laning, generally do not auto attack. It pushes the lane closer to the enemy tower and makes it more dangerous for you and your lanemate, and also makes it safer (more difficult to gank) for the enemy. For that reason if you are farming as a carry and the lane is close to your tower you can last hit and deny all the creeps and the lane will not move. This allows you to farm a lot while still being close to your tower. | ||
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DR.Ham
Netherlands621 Posts
I Can't wait to play! | ||
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imweakless
757 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/Hn5Xn.jpg) in game + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/Bbp0E.jpg) played dota2 perfectly fine before the patch | ||
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
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noD
2230 Posts
On March 23 2012 10:00 XChoke wrote: Thanks I think that's help answer a few things for me! I was baffled after my last few games why my XP and gold per minute at the end of the match was so much lower than most of my other team. I think I'm starting to understand the basic economics of the game now - it's very different to sc2 but is it fair to say the the equivalent of "always build scv's and supply depots and expand management" (which forms the basis for almost any strategy in sc2) is something like: 1 - Only Micro kill last hit on creeps (same as building more scv's and expanding) and deny last hit on my own creeps if opponent is in lane. 2 - Spend gold (using item mule) at shops so that will help you stay in the lane a lot longer at the start (essentially not getting supply blocked in sc2 terms). Is this a sound place to start? I'm trying to draw analogies to sc2 as that is what I'm familar with. I would say if u r noob get small itens or the recommended in a good order dying takes too much money and if u arent farming well my best advice is buy a lot 2 - is kind right u need sustain itens (tango for instance) to stay longer | ||
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5-s
United States1674 Posts
On March 23 2012 13:49 Ryuu314 wrote: can SD's ult dispel bkb? If you mean remove bkb, no, nothing can. | ||
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
so basically if there's a bkb lycan running at me as SD there's nothing I can do except die :[ | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On March 23 2012 13:55 Ryuu314 wrote: so basically if there's a bkb lycan running at me as SD there's nothing I can do except die :[ You can disruption yourself. You can buy Eul's or Ghost Scepter and use those. Not all the things that can save you from Lycan have to be cast on him. | ||
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Durak
Canada3685 Posts
On March 23 2012 13:55 Ryuu314 wrote: so basically if there's a bkb lycan running at me as SD there's nothing I can do except die :[ use your first skill on yourself, use a ghost scepter, force staff farther away, euls, whatever Edit: beat | ||
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
On March 23 2012 13:58 TheYango wrote: You can disruption yourself. You can buy Eul's or Ghost Scepter and use those. Not all the things that can save you from Lycan have to be cast on him. that's basically what i ended up doing. unfortunately the rest of my team gets wrecked in the meantime :\ | ||
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evantrees
Canada497 Posts
On March 22 2012 01:56 Durak wrote: Pretty sure the command doesn't exist in Dota2. I turned off autoattacking for this reason. Didn't take very long to get used to it but I'm still experimenting. I think this may do what you people are looking for, not using it myself an autoexec.cfg line. bind "h" "dota_player_units_auto_attack 0;dota_hold" //Hold leaves passive stance recommended reading for anyone who wants to try and tweak stuff. http://dev.dota2.com/showthread.php?t=5570 currently using it for mainly. esdf and arrows keys both camera control. and chat_join "teamliquid" | ||
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LaiShin
Australia978 Posts
-How do you upgrade courier? edit: Thanks yango. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On March 24 2012 09:35 LaiShin wrote: -Does demon witch's stun reach further on ground stun? Yes. The cast range is 500, but the spikes go out to 700 range. On March 24 2012 09:35 LaiShin wrote: -How do you upgrade courier? Buy the flying courier recipe when your team already has a normal courier. | ||
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Nilrem
United States3684 Posts
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noD
2230 Posts
On March 24 2012 11:43 Nilrem wrote: Quick question: When having a party and looking for a match, how does the MMR work? I was planning on playing with a friend that would be much worse than I am. So I am curious one kind of players I would be playing against. i am pretty sure the mmr isnt working yet, no ? | ||
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Nilrem
United States3684 Posts
Oh, i thought it was (since before patched, there was a way to see it). Alas, hypothetically if it was implemented, how would it work if partied up? | ||
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