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NInoff
Profile Joined August 2011
Bulgaria1105 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-01-04 07:13:34
January 04 2019 07:12 GMT
#6321
On January 03 2019 21:00 Rufus Dupres wrote:
Current Rankings on the leaderboards, looks like the boys are grinding their way back to the top. Can´t wait for the Major...

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Liquid.Gh

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Liquid.MATUMBAMAN

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Liquid.Miracle-

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Liquid.MinD_ContRoL


The fact that they are playing so much pubs means the hunger is back. We are back bois! Liquid Owning!
noh2o
Profile Joined August 2017
China71 Posts
January 07 2019 00:21 GMT
#6322
today
6matu
8gh
9miracle
10mc
w33 is the best mid player
Rufus Dupres
Profile Joined December 2018
Germany1071 Posts
January 07 2019 10:49 GMT
#6323
Kuro on 1.230, boys watch out the Captain is coming for you! :D

Interesting note, Solo is on 1.247. This just shows that the best leaders does not have to be the best player as well.
"The map is black, but I see everything" - Kuro - MegaFon 2018
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34500 Posts
January 07 2019 18:47 GMT
#6324
Kuro has never been into mmr spamming like the others are, so that's standard.
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LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
January 07 2019 22:55 GMT
#6325
Yeah his job is more to watch replays and study teams and meta
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
Rufus Dupres
Profile Joined December 2018
Germany1071 Posts
January 08 2019 09:56 GMT
#6326
Yes, I know that Kuro doesnt give a shit about his MMR and ranking.

I just found it interesting that the leader of the two most consistent teams since 1,5 years are nearly identical on their placings which are significantly below their team members. For example, other Captains of top teams like fly(place 92) and N0tail(place 117) are in the same regions like their companions and I am pretty sure they are putting a similar amount of time into studying their opponents.
"The map is black, but I see everything" - Kuro - MegaFon 2018
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
January 08 2019 18:09 GMT
#6327
To be fair they could be smurfers also
TRUEESPORTS || your days as a respected member of team liquid are over
sCuMBaG
Profile Joined August 2006
United Kingdom1144 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-01-15 21:30:34
January 15 2019 20:24 GMT
#6328
Notail's answer in the TrueSight Q&A to the question what advice he would give someone in the finals.

"Ask Kuro. He knows..."

Hell yeah
vndestiny
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Singapore3441 Posts
January 16 2019 10:58 GMT
#6329
According to some Shadow is standin for Miracle for the major. When can we ever see the team at full strength darn it
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22211 Posts
January 16 2019 11:50 GMT
#6330
Unsubstantiated rumours that Miracle (a Polish passport holder) was a refused a visa, due to the Poles detaining a Huawei worker on spying charges.
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
vndestiny
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Singapore3441 Posts
January 16 2019 11:55 GMT
#6331
I was so excited to see the full squad on the big stage after so long. Now it's just a puddle of sadness.
Julmust
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Sweden4867 Posts
January 16 2019 12:27 GMT
#6332
On January 16 2019 20:50 ahswtini wrote:
Unsubstantiated rumours that Miracle (a Polish passport holder) was a refused a visa, due to the Poles detaining a Huawei worker on spying charges.

Don't spread that shit, please. The only piece of information about that comes from a Chinese forum, which I rate as highly as Reddit as a source. It also doesn't hold up to scrutiny. Miracle has been to China plenty of times before, so he probably holds a multi-year visa. That means they'd have to retract his visa, which would mean they'd also refuse Nisha and Nisha is already in China (confirmed by CyborgMatt).
AdministratorI'm dancing in the moonlight
Rufus Dupres
Profile Joined December 2018
Germany1071 Posts
January 16 2019 14:43 GMT
#6333
Damn….really hoped to see them all play together at the Major, was pretty hyped after their last showing at MegaFon. Was wondering why Miracle was playing pubs yesterday evening when the remaining Team was already at Amsterdam at the airport, but now it makes sense.

Hope he will be able to solve his private problems quickly, family should always be on the first position.
"The map is black, but I see everything" - Kuro - MegaFon 2018
chabode
Profile Joined March 2017
330 Posts
January 16 2019 15:26 GMT
#6334
Can a team play with subs?UPDATED
Yes. During qualifiers, a team must play with at least 4 of its 5 registered players (this will cause no penalty). Any team that plays the LAN portion of a tournament with a sub will incur a 40% penalty on points earned from that tournament.


Julmust
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Sweden4867 Posts
January 16 2019 15:29 GMT
#6335
On January 17 2019 00:26 chabode wrote:
Show nested quote +
Can a team play with subs?UPDATED
Yes. During qualifiers, a team must play with at least 4 of its 5 registered players (this will cause no penalty). Any team that plays the LAN portion of a tournament with a sub will incur a 40% penalty on points earned from that tournament.



Valve has been rather lenient with that in the past, though. I think (note: think, I didn't write the rules) that the rule is there so people won't say someone's a sub when they're actually trying out a new player. Still a possibility TL will get a point penalty, though.
AdministratorI'm dancing in the moonlight
SFDuality
Profile Joined December 2012
United States1318 Posts
January 16 2019 23:38 GMT
#6336
I don't see why they wouldn't. I mean, when it's something outside of the team/players' control like Visa issues, it makes sense to waive the penalty, but when it's a personal issue with one of the players there's no way they won't apply the penalty.

Between this and missing out on the last major Liquid really isn't having the greatest start to this season.

I hope we'll get to see the full squad back in action at the next major.
Rufus Dupres
Profile Joined December 2018
Germany1071 Posts
January 17 2019 07:09 GMT
#6337
In general, I was of the opinion that the DPC penalty has been implemented in order to avoid that Teams screw up a player by kicking him prior the Major and/or TI. For example, when J.Storm replaced Milan with Fear shortly after their qualification to the Major.

I do not think that there is any intention by Liquid to replace Miracle and I just hope that Valve will show some "mercy" towards our boys when explaining them the situation.
"The map is black, but I see everything" - Kuro - MegaFon 2018
Toshiru
Profile Joined August 2017
Germany47 Posts
January 17 2019 10:14 GMT
#6338
Oh man, I miss seeing all 5 in a big tournament. Damn it! Hope everything is fine and whatever the issue gets resolved quickly. In regards to the tournament, I still think we will do great
If you go over your limits, would you be able to go back?
hunter_x
Profile Joined June 2014
Germany2762 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-01-17 16:46:10
January 17 2019 16:44 GMT
#6339
This sucks so much. They missed the first major, because they were bad at the time, and now that they are strong again, miracle is not available...sure they can still get a good placement with shadow, but I want to see the whole team again. And then 2 month of fucking downtime before the next major. I don't like this new system at all, even if it's better for the players. I don't feel connected to the game at all right now, not even reading much here or on reddit. there are so few tournaments I am interested in, basically only the majors are left now. This became a rant about the pro circuit pretty quickly xD
noh2o
Profile Joined August 2017
China71 Posts
January 18 2019 01:18 GMT
#6340
On January 18 2019 01:44 hunter_x wrote:
This sucks so much

what a pity,miracle can not attend cq major
but we can see liquid in mdl macau
hope miracle come back early
lets go liquid
w33 is the best mid player
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