Team Liquid Discussion - Page 272

On February 24 2018 04:09 Saechiis wrote:
Weird draft indeed. Everyone has been winning with Terrorblade so I don't understand why Secret didn't first pick or ban the hero in that last game. They tried to draft a lineup to run over Liquid in the early game but they forgot Liquid are the best early game team in pro Dota and so far 7.09 seems VERY good for them.

On February 24 2018 04:20 hunter_x wrote:

I think Secret also really didnt expect the brood last pick. Did you see their faces after the draft? It was like "Damn we fucked up".

On February 25 2018 04:32 Savatage wrote:
classic throwliquid, back to ""It's not the winning but the taking part that counts" i feel, everybody satisfied with the umpteenth placement when it matters, like "ok at least no TI winner curse!". That's bullshit, the team is insanely good but it always chocke at the crucial moments for the last six months, games under control throwed, randomic drafts and obviously not always your advantage in skill of the players cover this shit. Watching now the important games of the boys is painful, expecially knowing what they can do and achieve when they play at their level. Both series vs VG they were in the lead throughout at least 2 of the lost games and they couldn't close them, this is worrysome because it's becoming an habit. I don't know what they can do to solve this situation but i have a feeling that doing nothing and believing that the next time will be ok will bring no changes. I know that's impossible to win every game and tourney, but to repeatedly lose games in this way (before was Secret, now it seems VG the kryptonyte) and never showing the dominant way of draft and execute they had at TI (and i think is not an issue of meta because they have even now so many confort heros that are strong and pushing strats are really good now) it's not a good sign

On February 25 2018 04:32 Savatage wrote:
classic throwliquid, back to ""It's not the winning but the taking part that counts" i feel, everybody satisfied with the umpteenth placement when it matters, like "ok at least no TI winner curse!". That's bullshit, the team is insanely good but it always chocke at the crucial moments for the last six months, games under control throwed, randomic drafts and obviously not always your advantage in skill of the players cover this shit. Watching now the important games of the boys is painful, expecially knowing what they can do and achieve when they play at their level. Both series vs VG they were in the lead throughout at least 2 of the lost games and they couldn't close them, this is worrysome because it's becoming an habit. I don't know what they can do to solve this situation but i have a feeling that doing nothing and believing that the next time will be ok will bring no changes. I know that's impossible to win every game and tourney, but to repeatedly lose games in this way (before was Secret, now it seems VG the kryptonyte) and never showing the dominant way of draft and execute they had at TI (and i think is not an issue of meta because they have even now so many confort heros that are strong and pushing strats are really good now) it's not a good sign

On February 25 2018 04:32 Savatage wrote:
classic throwliquid, back to ""It's not the winning but the taking part that counts" i feel, everybody satisfied with the umpteenth placement when it matters, like "ok at least no TI winner curse!". That's bullshit, the team is insanely good but it always chocke at the crucial moments for the last six months, games under control throwed, randomic drafts and obviously not always your advantage in skill of the players cover this shit. Watching now the important games of the boys is painful, expecially knowing what they can do and achieve when they play at their level. Both series vs VG they were in the lead throughout at least 2 of the lost games and they couldn't close them, this is worrysome because it's becoming an habit. I don't know what they can do to solve this situation but i have a feeling that doing nothing and believing that the next time will be ok will bring no changes. I know that's impossible to win every game and tourney, but to repeatedly lose games in this way (before was Secret, now it seems VG the kryptonyte) and never showing the dominant way of draft and execute they had at TI (and i think is not an issue of meta because they have even now so many confort heros that are strong and pushing strats are really good now) it's not a good sign

On February 25 2018 04:48 hunter_x wrote:

Bullshit, we still won a lot of tournaments in the last six month. The ones we didn't win, we still placed top 3. It's really hard these days, to stay on top all the time, a lot of teams are very good. Plz don't make this so dramatic, liquid doesn't have big issues. On some days other teams are just a bit better. If u look back at other strong teams in the past, those also didn't win everything. And before TI we also didn't win everything btw.