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Anamorph
Profile Joined September 2015
236 Posts
October 21 2016 21:08 GMT
#2461
On October 21 2016 08:02 Jaaaaasper wrote:
Bulba is playing pretty well. I think hes the only player playing up to expectations, and hes beating them. Miracle and Matu are having all the issues people thought rtz and sumail would have splitting farm and lane babysitting.


Thats blabla - rtz and sumail proof it was a wrong analysis by a lot of people. It works out, it just took a different captain.
To keep it simple, miracle can play fatas hero pool and perform way better, doesnt matter on which char. So thats not the part of their problem.
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
October 22 2016 00:01 GMT
#2462
Have you been watching the games actually or just hating? The synergy of the two and fitting into team strategy was clearly a big issue
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
danielbe
Profile Joined December 2010
Colombia24 Posts
October 22 2016 07:38 GMT
#2463
As I said before, it's not Bulba's fault as in "Bulba is playing like shit". It's Bulba's fault as in, "Kuro is not as good as Jerax as the playmaking support, and Bulba can't play the position Kuro used to play" kind of thing.

If Kuro ups his game as roaming tempo controller through practice and they adapt to having a defensive and not a greedy support (Bulba, as opposed to Kuro), things can work out.

With Jerax, they would still mostly marginally lose the early game but get an advantage on the mid game out of Kuro's greed and Jerax finding pickoffs with his cores. Now, the early game is horribly lost, and no amount of recovery can salvage it most of the times.
GGman
Profile Joined July 2010
Czech Republic143 Posts
October 22 2016 08:49 GMT
#2464
And into the major qualifiers we go! :l

At least there will be more Liquid games to be seen rather sooner than later. Although I still consider games these days an "advanced practice" I really hope that they come into the qualifier with a clearly defined style and don't leave all of us Liquid fans with facepalms all around :D
“Never argue with idiots. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.”
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
October 22 2016 09:04 GMT
#2465
Nobody expected direct invite, easy practice in the qualifiers is good, I think getting into loser bracket asap for more games on purpose will be a sound approach too
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
NInoff
Profile Joined August 2011
Bulgaria1105 Posts
October 22 2016 13:01 GMT
#2466
They will have the chance to pull themselves togheter. During this qulifiers we will know if this will be a successful team or not.
Fingers crossed!
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
October 22 2016 16:05 GMT
#2467
Anybody having 2014 flashbacks yet
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-22 16:22:08
October 22 2016 16:20 GMT
#2468
What a bizzare way to draft again...get bounty with almost no pickoff potential, no real synergy with the cores.
And the bounty is even weirder when kotl jugg bristle are a good pushing combo.

I hope they go back to their strategy against Alliance in just getting strong combos for Matumba/Miracle
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
SFDuality
Profile Joined December 2012
United States1318 Posts
October 22 2016 17:22 GMT
#2469
The last game was maybe the first actually good draft I've seen from Liquid since this new roster started playing. Amazing what a lineup with actual synergy can do.
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
October 22 2016 18:04 GMT
#2470
Miracle and Matu had just zero effect in this last game.
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
Saechiis
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands4989 Posts
October 22 2016 18:08 GMT
#2471
Ya, I don't like the new Liquid's playstyle. Double defensive supports and farm zzzzzzzzz.
I think esports is pretty nice.
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
October 22 2016 18:10 GMT
#2472
It just doesn't work

They did a lot better when they've played more aggro
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
Aurrius
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany120 Posts
October 22 2016 18:10 GMT
#2473
This Team Liquid will not be in the Boston Major at all.
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
October 22 2016 18:13 GMT
#2474
I'm just sad. I don't think I can summon anger anymore. .
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
NInoff
Profile Joined August 2011
Bulgaria1105 Posts
October 22 2016 18:13 GMT
#2475
Bad drafts, bad execution, no gameplan... Seems like all the troubles are similar. But they look shaky every game. They are not on the same page. Still some time until the major qualifiers, but i don't see a way out of that other major patch.
fajo
Profile Joined January 2016
18 Posts
October 22 2016 18:15 GMT
#2476
Why is Miracle vs 9 not working anymore? Seems like the roster shuffle really dragged him down....
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
October 22 2016 18:15 GMT
#2477
sooo much disappointment
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
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giftdgecko
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2126 Posts
October 22 2016 18:15 GMT
#2478
No one had any impact from liquid in that game. Supports didn't do anything, Miracle went max earth shock, Matu had a silly death to an axe top...

I really want to see Bulba on heroes other than sd/oracle.
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-22 18:15:55
October 22 2016 18:15 GMT
#2479
maybe OG will suck too and we can get Jgod back eventually
Saechiis
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands4989 Posts
October 22 2016 18:16 GMT
#2480
On October 23 2016 03:15 fajo wrote:
Why is Miracle vs 9 not working anymore? Seems like the roster shuffle really dragged him down....


Because there's no-one creating space.
I think esports is pretty nice.
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