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Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
October 22 2016 23:54 GMT
#2501
On October 23 2016 08:48 nojok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2016 06:28 Shaella wrote:
On October 23 2016 05:54 caiovigg wrote:
Just a reminder that liquid didn't play in the first major last year. So calm down, even if they don't qualify its not the end of the world.

no dude they lost one online best of three its fucking over

5jungz definately never lost a BO3 to some t3 CIS team like empire that never happened.

5jungz played well and this liquid sucks, and liquid has lost a lot of bo3s.

2

they've lost 2 bo3s.
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
Thetwinmasters
Profile Joined January 2015
3578 Posts
October 23 2016 00:40 GMT
#2502
On October 23 2016 08:54 Shaella wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2016 08:48 nojok wrote:
On October 23 2016 06:28 Shaella wrote:
On October 23 2016 05:54 caiovigg wrote:
Just a reminder that liquid didn't play in the first major last year. So calm down, even if they don't qualify its not the end of the world.

no dude they lost one online best of three its fucking over

5jungz definately never lost a BO3 to some t3 CIS team like empire that never happened.

5jungz played well and this liquid sucks, and liquid has lost a lot of bo3s.

2

they've lost 2 bo3s.

A quick look on dotabuff shows 5 losses in a bo3 so lol
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
October 23 2016 00:58 GMT
#2503
Forgot about the summit quals but thats only 4 total, not 5
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
Cybuster
Profile Joined October 2015
Canada99 Posts
October 23 2016 02:06 GMT
#2504
Games that Liquid have played since TI6:

Dream League: 4-4
Summit Qualifiers: 4-5 (Lost in LB finals)
Faceit: 1-1 (Lost in semis)
Dotapit Qualifiers: 3-4 (Lost in LB finals)
Total: 12-14

Don't think Liquid can pull it to Boston Major unless something improve drastically (which I doubt). Have said it in August when rumour with Bulba coming in as support. The team just can't sync with Bulba in support (who hadn't play the role for like 2 years).
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
October 23 2016 02:07 GMT
#2505
I blame Bulba. Maybe he is not playing the worst, but he is probably the reason why his teammates are playing crap XD
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-23 02:20:30
October 23 2016 02:12 GMT
#2506
On October 23 2016 11:07 DucK- wrote:
I blame Bulba. Maybe he is not playing the worst, but he is probably the reason why his teammates are playing crap XD

You wanna back that shit up? Or are you just gonna keep talking shit on a player for literally no fucking reason

Seriously. What the fuck. You are such fucking idiots. There's no way this is all Bulba's fault, he's actually playing pretty well. He's just a fucking punching bag for people at this point.

He's clearly a capable player. He wouldn't be picked up if he wasn't. The teams clearly see value in bringing him in.

Like seriously. This hatred is just absurd.

Such an asshole ridiculous statement. "Other players are clearly playing bad because of this one player, they would be perfect champions without him"

Absolutely ridiculous.
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
wims80
Profile Joined February 2014
1892 Posts
October 23 2016 02:40 GMT
#2507
On October 23 2016 11:12 Shaella wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2016 11:07 DucK- wrote:
I blame Bulba. Maybe he is not playing the worst, but he is probably the reason why his teammates are playing crap XD

You wanna back that shit up? Or are you just gonna keep talking shit on a player for literally no fucking reason

Seriously. What the fuck. You are such fucking idiots. There's no way this is all Bulba's fault, he's actually playing pretty well. He's just a fucking punching bag for people at this point.

He's clearly a capable player. He wouldn't be picked up if he wasn't. The teams clearly see value in bringing him in.

Like seriously. This hatred is just absurd.

Such an asshole ridiculous statement. "Other players are clearly playing bad because of this one player, they would be perfect champions without him"

Absolutely ridiculous.

He's joking lol, take it easy man
Why are my allies so weak and pathetic?
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
October 23 2016 02:40 GMT
#2508
He was clearly kidding haha, take a chill pill son :D
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
October 23 2016 02:55 GMT
#2509
Honestly I can't tell anymore and its wearing rather thin.
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
Dysisa
Profile Joined July 2014
Sweden2376 Posts
October 23 2016 03:24 GMT
#2510
You're definitely right though, people desperately trying to turn Bulba into some kind of scapegoat are really sad. In general people in here need to stop being so fucking negative. If you can't hold a few L's on the way to success, then you should probably go bandwagon a team like EG or whatever instead.
fuck dota 2 | "i don't like ppd, and i really look forward to one day beating that motherfucker" -Swindlemelonzz, my personal hero
75
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany4057 Posts
October 23 2016 07:15 GMT
#2511
On October 23 2016 12:24 Dysisa wrote:
You're definitely right though, people desperately trying to turn Bulba into some kind of scapegoat are really sad. In general people in here need to stop being so fucking negative. If you can't hold a few L's on the way to success, then you should probably go bandwagon a team like EG or whatever instead.

people are used to see a winning TeamLiquid. so its pretty normal that many of them are quite negative after the last change of events.
yo twitch, as long as I can watch 480p lagfree I'm happy
midou
Profile Joined April 2008
Bulgaria1168 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-23 07:19:30
October 23 2016 07:17 GMT
#2512
Maybe Kuro should start drafting those super greedy 4's - Fy style like Doom, Beastmaster etc and transition into a core, while Mind Control plays his no farm Slardars and Earthshaker. Bulba has been solid I feel.
bluzi
Profile Joined May 2011
4703 Posts
October 23 2016 07:26 GMT
#2513
On October 23 2016 12:24 Dysisa wrote:
You're definitely right though, people desperately trying to turn Bulba into some kind of scapegoat are really sad. In general people in here need to stop being so fucking negative. If you can't hold a few L's on the way to success, then you should probably go bandwagon a team like EG or whatever instead.


They clearly havent roll with a team through thick and thin , when your wagon loses its wheels its a hard fall on the floor , true fans get up and go on that wagon again and enjoy the ride , sick of all the god damn cry baby "fans" , Liquid players deserve better , awesome group of ppl and players ..........
As stated , if you want a winning team only go to EG , they will have the best rosters/teams more often then not.(like picking Barcelona or Real Madrid).

WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-23 08:00:48
October 23 2016 07:58 GMT
#2514
On October 23 2016 16:26 bluzi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2016 12:24 Dysisa wrote:
You're definitely right though, people desperately trying to turn Bulba into some kind of scapegoat are really sad. In general people in here need to stop being so fucking negative. If you can't hold a few L's on the way to success, then you should probably go bandwagon a team like EG or whatever instead.


They clearly havent roll with a team through thick and thin , when your wagon loses its wheels its a hard fall on the floor , true fans get up and go on that wagon again and enjoy the ride , sick of all the god damn cry baby "fans" , Liquid players deserve better , awesome group of ppl and players ..........
As stated , if you want a winning team only go to EG , they will have the best rosters/teams more often then not.(like picking Barcelona or Real Madrid).


Except EG's rosters have been fairly home grown, with players who made their mark with EG, aside from Aui and Cr1t.

Liquid was the team that won before they got picked up.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
clusen
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany8702 Posts
October 23 2016 08:28 GMT
#2515
I miss FATA, he made shit work.
bluzi
Profile Joined May 2011
4703 Posts
October 23 2016 08:29 GMT
#2516
On October 23 2016 16:58 WolfintheSheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2016 16:26 bluzi wrote:
On October 23 2016 12:24 Dysisa wrote:
You're definitely right though, people desperately trying to turn Bulba into some kind of scapegoat are really sad. In general people in here need to stop being so fucking negative. If you can't hold a few L's on the way to success, then you should probably go bandwagon a team like EG or whatever instead.


They clearly havent roll with a team through thick and thin , when your wagon loses its wheels its a hard fall on the floor , true fans get up and go on that wagon again and enjoy the ride , sick of all the god damn cry baby "fans" , Liquid players deserve better , awesome group of ppl and players ..........
As stated , if you want a winning team only go to EG , they will have the best rosters/teams more often then not.(like picking Barcelona or Real Madrid).


Except EG's rosters have been fairly home grown, with players who made their mark with EG, aside from Aui and Cr1t.

Liquid was the team that won before they got picked up.


EG currently is THE team to play for , best salaries best conditions best track record , did they get there with hard work and "home grown" (Aside from Sumail/Fear , everyone else grew elsewhere) maybe , but if you are looking for the Barcelona of Dota , this is the closest it gets which was my point , not trying to discredit them or pass judgment , they are the best and are on top more then any other franchise in this game.
Again , talking about this EG iteration not the nostalgic sad boyz -> EG (which you can say is similar to Liquid)
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-23 09:00:00
October 23 2016 08:56 GMT
#2517
On October 23 2016 16:26 bluzi wrote:
They clearly havent roll with a team through thick and thin


You mean like the blogboys era or a full year without a team at all?

Rolling with a team doesn't mean you have to be willfully blind. If a team doesn't look like it's going to work out in the first month or two at most, then it's not going to work out.

On October 23 2016 16:58 WolfintheSheep wrote:
Except EG's rosters have been fairly home grown, with players who made their mark with EG, aside from Aui and Cr1t.

Liquid was the team that won before they got picked up.


Sadboys and 5Jungz were picked up in pretty much the exact same way except 5jungz had way lower profile players on the roster who didn't have any prior success at all.
zolasell
Profile Joined April 2016
Greece288 Posts
October 23 2016 09:35 GMT
#2518
On October 23 2016 17:56 Talin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2016 16:26 bluzi wrote:
They clearly havent roll with a team through thick and thin


You mean like the blogboys era or a full year without a team at all?

Rolling with a team doesn't mean you have to be willfully blind. If a team doesn't look like it's going to work out in the first month or two at most, then it's not going to work out.

Show nested quote +
On October 23 2016 16:58 WolfintheSheep wrote:
Except EG's rosters have been fairly home grown, with players who made their mark with EG, aside from Aui and Cr1t.

Liquid was the team that won before they got picked up.


Sadboys and 5Jungz were picked up in pretty much the exact same way except 5jungz had way lower profile players on the roster who didn't have any prior success at all.

FATA kuroky...also ppd and zai didnt have a lot of succes before sandboys either
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-23 09:48:33
October 23 2016 09:45 GMT
#2519
Fata wasn't very successful at all, ppd and zai had plenty of success in HoN.

Besides, MC and Matu basically only ever played in tier 3 teams and Jerax was also a fringe player.
Julmust
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Sweden4867 Posts
October 23 2016 10:01 GMT
#2520
On October 23 2016 17:28 clusen wrote:
I miss FATA, he made shit work.

FATA and Miracle- are very different midlaners. With FATA you always knew what you were gonna get. He had a deep hero pool but rarely (not saying never, just rarely) pulled off games like that Miracle- rubick we saw. Miracle- has higher highs but lower lows and I think that's why he wants to play with someone like Kuro. He doesn't want to be the pubstar who had 1-2 good years (think admiralbulldog), he wants to develop into that solid midlaner and believes that Kuro is the captain that can make that happen.

Also I think it's ridiculous that people are trying to pin this on one person. This is a team game. The team hasn't been good overall. Kuro feeds too much midgame, Bulba misses skills in teamfights cause he's over excited, MindControl is feeding in the offlane way too often, Miracle hasn't really dominated mid in a single game, and Matumba's laning phases have been shaky.

Now lets turn that around. Kuro feeds too often because his team doesn't back him up, Bulba misses skills, most likely, because people aren't calling correctly, MindControl feeds because he's playing incredibly hard match-ups, Miracle isn't dominating because Matumba also needs to farm the map, and Matumba's laning phase is shaky because Liquid isn't rotating in on the offlane too much.

It's a team game. You win as a team, you lose as a team.
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