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t3rm1nal
Italy37 Posts
let's wait | ||
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Xurr
Germany313 Posts
Seriously though, i think they will come back tomorrow. | ||
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spudde123
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NInoff
Bulgaria1105 Posts
"Told you that too many stars will hurt any team in any sport!" Hope that they don't lose again as that will be a disaster. | ||
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Xurr
Germany313 Posts
 More recently you are right. | ||
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spudde123
4814 Posts
On April 22 2016 21:33 Xurr wrote: Well, there was the DAC with that 15:0... More recently you are right. Ya but that was quite a while back, I meant with the most recent lineup. But of course it's expected that with it being the first game of the new lineup people will react strongly very early on. | ||
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Faruko
Chile34173 Posts
On April 22 2016 21:36 spudde123 wrote: Ya but that was quite a while back, I meant with the most recent lineup. But of course it's expected that with it being the first game of the new lineup people will react strongly very early on. Thats the problem, your first real game its LAN Secret should go to more online leagues or stuff like that, especially considering they are a new team and scrims are fine and its THE WAY to practice, but "real" games help you put in practice all the thery you gather from scrims Sure its 1 series, and they could easily go and win the tournament, but at some point they looked remarkably uncoordinated, like when they relocate into specter and got rekt, a few seconds before that Universe scouted that Puck and Lion was there, why would they go anyway ? or Envy using song slightly later than he should and let rtz and pie die | ||
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spudde123
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Sabu113
United States11075 Posts
On April 22 2016 22:12 Faruko wrote: Thats the problem, your first real game its LAN Secret should go to more online leagues or stuff like that, especially considering they are a new team and scrims are fine and its THE WAY to practice, but "real" games help you put in practice all the thery you gather from scrims Sure its 1 series, and they could easily go and win the tournament, but at some point they looked remarkably uncoordinated, like when they relocate into specter and got rekt, a few seconds before that Universe scouted that Puck and Lion was there, why would they go anyway ? or Envy using song slightly later than he should and let rtz and pie die Yeah. They just need game time to gel. Empire though deserves a lot of credit. They looked very good. | ||
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Atoissen
Norway1737 Posts
On April 23 2016 04:18 Sabu113 wrote: Yeah. They just need game time to gel. Empire though deserves a lot of credit. They looked very good. I am actually 100% sure they are going to stomp EHOME tomorrow, Universe most likely going to be mvp also Agree man, im so happy that Empire played that well. | ||
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Vankuga
Panama2005 Posts
If they lose vs EHOME today, oh boy the shitshow that it will be. | ||
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MirageTaN
Singapore871 Posts
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LemOn
United Kingdom8629 Posts
Empire played really well that last series was just epic and Secret just got rly tired near the end (should drink more redbull like empire guys :d) | ||
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sCuMBaG
United Kingdom1144 Posts
I mean come on... 7 games and only 2 heroes. | ||
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dmnum
Brazil6910 Posts
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spudde123
4814 Posts
3rd game felt like the draft was just really awkward for Secret. It's so hard for them to kill people. They have no magic burst, only aoe lockdown was Wyvern ult, and no aoe damage almost either. So their only way to kill people is to hit with their two right clickers. But then if Empire decides they are in a bad position they just sprout+glimpse and run away and lose max 1 hero or something, and if they decide they can turn Secret is just screwed after Nyx stuns the OD and Disruptor ults him. | ||
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Xurr
Germany313 Posts
And i just don't get the Naix Pick at all, running around in ancients might be cool in the early to midgame, but late you have a position 1 melee hero against NP, Disruptor 3x Force staff and Impetus, good luck. | ||
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maximrobi
Hungary347 Posts
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DucK-
Singapore11447 Posts
On April 24 2016 03:27 maximrobi wrote: You can run Naix as your carry like Chessie did today, but you have to rush Radiance and stack up auras. Plus you need to be against a weak ancient killing team, not Slark+Ench. The 2nd part is the more important factor. Wings only had Ursa that could kill Ancients, but that would require using most of its DPS (Overpower) on nothing. | ||
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spudde123
4814 Posts
I think the main issue was just how impossible it was for their lineup to kill multiple people in a teamfight. Either they needed to have a different support duo altogether, or they needed to change at least one of their mid and carry. Imo even something like Tiny would have been fine, it would have given them much needed low cd stuns and magic burst, which they completely lacked. Of course Tiny is not really a signature hero for either of EE and Rtz but neither is Naix. I'm not exactly sure what Secret was expecting from Empire in the last few picks. Personally I thought Secret would go Clinkz for EE on 4th pick (3 of Empire's heroes already had no hard stuns and are pretty squishy against Clinkz burst, Clinkz is good to kill Ench and can also be used to scout for Wisp ganks). And then maybe Tiny or something for Arteezy on last pick. | ||
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