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On April 20 2016 15:22 nanaoei wrote: lol at the EE comment that starcraft 1 is less complex than dota 2..
dota has far more permutations for possible strategies which is what matters in the context of what he said
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Mechanically sc1 its far more complex than dota 2, but the amount of variables you have to account for Dota 2 makes it a phd itself (heroes, items, RNG, etc...)
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you're right, but actually accounting for those variables and all the different strategies is another story. as such a large undertaking, nobody is expected to single-handedly create strats from scratch.
even then there are items and combinations and synergies that always make more sense than any other unless something big moves that around like you playing vs. particular sets of heroes. anyway, i just lol because it's randomly thrown in there as a legit comparison. i mean... it's a different kinda game, with a changing map pool.
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One line in an interview does not really equal a well thought out legit comparison. I don't really care about the comparison but I think the sentiment as far as dota and its patches goes is fine. Dota is not a game where a lot of stuff is good or bad by default, it depends on what the enemy is doing what you pair it with. You do something, other teams learn to adapt to it, then something else opens up as an option against those things. Not to mention that it's not only hero picks that go away and come back but also the way teams see the game and prefer to play changes over time, which then also changes hero priorities or the way the same heroes are played.
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Care to elaborate ? Which statement did he disagree with you that makes you think he's a "fucking moron" ?
What did make you so angry that you want them to loss and fail ?
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Only thing I can think that might be seen as moronic is the StarCraft comment. But getting mad over that relies on misunderstanding what complexity is, or at least can reasonably be called.
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EE seems to be the only one properly prepared for the heat.
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On April 21 2016 09:34 goody153 wrote:Care to elaborate ? Which statement did he disagree with you that makes you think he's a "fucking moron" ? What did make you so angry that you want them to loss and fail ? The basic summary of that interview: w33 is good only on 1.5 heroes, we kicked him because we had an early-game problems, not because arteezy decided to jump ship again; EG were trash; I am so fucking pro I can learn any hero in a week and teach Universe of all people how he should play, messaging him after EVERY pub (it's one thing to do it, but certainly another to tell this publicly).
When you hear it from a carry that isn't even top10 world and is known for his hillarious mistakes and awful taste, you can't help it but wish him fail miSeRably. And get kicked.
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On April 21 2016 19:32 ForTehDarkseid wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2016 09:34 goody153 wrote:Care to elaborate ? Which statement did he disagree with you that makes you think he's a "fucking moron" ? What did make you so angry that you want them to loss and fail ? The basic summary of that interview: w33 is good only on 1.5 heroes, we kicked him because we had an early-game problems, not because arteezy decided to jump ship again; EG were trash; I am so fucking pro I can learn any hero in a week and teach Universe of all people how he should play, messaging him after EVERY pub (it's one thing to do it, but certainly another to tell this publicly). When you hear it from a carry that isn't even top10 world and is known for his hillarious mistakes and awful taste, you can't help it but wish him fail miSeRably. And get kicked.
you're so invested into the envy hate train that you've conjured every possible negative interpretation of his comments. take a deep breath
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Impressive interpretation
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You have to be a special sort of bitter to get that from the interview.
Shame.
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Less than 18 hours till the boys' first match in ESL
get hyypeeee
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On April 21 2016 19:32 ForTehDarkseid wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2016 09:34 goody153 wrote:Care to elaborate ? Which statement did he disagree with you that makes you think he's a "fucking moron" ? What did make you so angry that you want them to loss and fail ? The basic summary of that interview: w33 is good only on 1.5 heroes, we kicked him because we had an early-game problems, not because arteezy decided to jump ship again; EG were trash; I am so fucking pro I can learn any hero in a week and teach Universe of all people how he should play, messaging him after EVERY pub (it's one thing to do it, but certainly another to tell this publicly). When you hear it from a carry that isn't even top10 world and is known for his hillarious mistakes and awful taste, you can't help it but wish him fail miSeRably. And get kicked. lol, the disconnect between what you claim he said, and what he actually said, is vast.
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On April 21 2016 19:32 ForTehDarkseid wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2016 09:34 goody153 wrote:Care to elaborate ? Which statement did he disagree with you that makes you think he's a "fucking moron" ? What did make you so angry that you want them to loss and fail ? The basic summary of that interview: w33 is good only on 1.5 heroes, we kicked him because we had an early-game problems, not because arteezy decided to jump ship again; EG were trash; I am so fucking pro I can learn any hero in a week and teach Universe of all people how he should play, messaging him after EVERY pub (it's one thing to do it, but certainly another to tell this publicly). When you hear it from a carry that isn't even top10 world and is known for his hillarious mistakes and awful taste, you can't help it but wish him fail miSeRably. And get kicked.
Ok dude ROFL
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So freaking excited to see them play.
Except I have lots of work so won't be able to catch many of the games. But oh well.
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The most hyped drama filled meme team is finally going to play. We are either going to usher in a new era of Doto or fucken laugh ourselves to death with bad jokes. Fuck im hyped either way.
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On April 21 2016 19:32 ForTehDarkseid wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2016 09:34 goody153 wrote:Care to elaborate ? Which statement did he disagree with you that makes you think he's a "fucking moron" ? What did make you so angry that you want them to loss and fail ? The basic summary of that interview: w33 is good only on 1.5 heroes, we kicked him because we had an early-game problems, not because arteezy decided to jump ship again; EG were trash; I am so fucking pro I can learn any hero in a week and teach Universe of all people how he should play, messaging him after EVERY pub (it's one thing to do it, but certainly another to tell this publicly). When you hear it from a carry that isn't even top10 world and is known for his hillarious mistakes and awful taste, you can't help it but wish him fail miSeRably. And get kicked. Dude, I think Envy implies that RTZ is half the WR w33 is, not that w33 plays the hero half bad/good. And he is not teaching Universe how to play but how he plays so they can understand each other, Universe may be doing the same for all we know. The problem with Envy is the wording, you can see that in his blogs. It seems he sucks at communicating outside the game.
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Yeah that interview is a lot more positive than he's making it out to be. Talking about losing out on the W33po
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