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Kraznaya
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3711 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-20 09:36:33
April 20 2016 09:36 GMT
#2961
On April 20 2016 15:22 nanaoei wrote:
lol at the EE comment that starcraft 1 is less complex than dota 2..


dota has far more permutations for possible strategies which is what matters in the context of what he said
do you have enough resolve, hero of justice?
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
April 20 2016 10:18 GMT
#2962
Mechanically sc1 its far more complex than dota 2, but the amount of variables you have to account for Dota 2 makes it a phd itself (heroes, items, RNG, etc...)
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
nanaoei
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
3358 Posts
April 20 2016 11:21 GMT
#2963
you're right, but actually accounting for those variables and all the different strategies is another story. as such a large undertaking, nobody is expected to single-handedly create strats from scratch.

even then there are items and combinations and synergies that always make more sense than any other unless something big moves that around like you playing vs. particular sets of heroes.
anyway, i just lol because it's randomly thrown in there as a legit comparison.
i mean... it's a different kinda game, with a changing map pool.
*@boesthius' FF7 nostalgia stream bomb* "we should work on a 'Final Progamer' fangame»whitera can be a protagonist---lastlie: "we save world and then defense it"
spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-20 11:33:23
April 20 2016 11:32 GMT
#2964
One line in an interview does not really equal a well thought out legit comparison. I don't really care about the comparison but I think the sentiment as far as dota and its patches goes is fine. Dota is not a game where a lot of stuff is good or bad by default, it depends on what the enemy is doing what you pair it with. You do something, other teams learn to adapt to it, then something else opens up as an option against those things. Not to mention that it's not only hero picks that go away and come back but also the way teams see the game and prefer to play changes over time, which then also changes hero priorities or the way the same heroes are played.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44237 Posts
April 20 2016 14:20 GMT
#2965
this is a quote
ForTehDarkseid
Profile Joined April 2013
8139 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-20 23:10:28
April 20 2016 23:09 GMT
#2966
http://www.redbull.com/en/esports/stories/1331788685817/eternal-envy-on-the-new-team-secret

Envy is a fucking moron, wow. Really wish they fail at a Manila major, honestly.

User was warned for this post
I think their strategy is to dumpster bad Western teams (c) uriel
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44237 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-21 00:36:00
April 21 2016 00:34 GMT
#2967
On April 21 2016 08:09 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
http://www.redbull.com/en/esports/stories/1331788685817/eternal-envy-on-the-new-team-secret

Envy is a fucking moron, wow. Really wish they fail at a Manila major, honestly.

Care to elaborate ? Which statement did he disagree with you that makes you think he's a "fucking moron" ?

What did make you so angry that you want them to loss and fail ?
this is a quote
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
April 21 2016 01:47 GMT
#2968
Only thing I can think that might be seen as moronic is the StarCraft comment. But getting mad over that relies on misunderstanding what complexity is, or at least can reasonably be called.
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
April 21 2016 02:23 GMT
#2969
EE seems to be the only one properly prepared for the heat.
ForTehDarkseid
Profile Joined April 2013
8139 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-21 10:43:40
April 21 2016 10:32 GMT
#2970
On April 21 2016 09:34 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2016 08:09 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
http://www.redbull.com/en/esports/stories/1331788685817/eternal-envy-on-the-new-team-secret

Envy is a fucking moron, wow. Really wish they fail at a Manila major, honestly.

Care to elaborate ? Which statement did he disagree with you that makes you think he's a "fucking moron" ?

What did make you so angry that you want them to loss and fail ?

The basic summary of that interview: w33 is good only on 1.5 heroes, we kicked him because we had an early-game problems, not because arteezy decided to jump ship again; EG were trash; I am so fucking pro I can learn any hero in a week and teach Universe of all people how he should play, messaging him after EVERY pub (it's one thing to do it, but certainly another to tell this publicly).

When you hear it from a carry that isn't even top10 world and is known for his hillarious mistakes and awful taste, you can't help it but wish him fail miSeRably. And get kicked.

I think their strategy is to dumpster bad Western teams (c) uriel
Exoteric
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia2330 Posts
April 21 2016 11:01 GMT
#2971
On April 21 2016 19:32 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2016 09:34 goody153 wrote:
On April 21 2016 08:09 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
http://www.redbull.com/en/esports/stories/1331788685817/eternal-envy-on-the-new-team-secret

Envy is a fucking moron, wow. Really wish they fail at a Manila major, honestly.

Care to elaborate ? Which statement did he disagree with you that makes you think he's a "fucking moron" ?

What did make you so angry that you want them to loss and fail ?

The basic summary of that interview: w33 is good only on 1.5 heroes, we kicked him because we had an early-game problems, not because arteezy decided to jump ship again; EG were trash; I am so fucking pro I can learn any hero in a week and teach Universe of all people how he should play, messaging him after EVERY pub (it's one thing to do it, but certainly another to tell this publicly).

When you hear it from a carry that isn't even top10 world and is known for his hillarious mistakes and awful taste, you can't help it but wish him fail miSeRably. And get kicked.



you're so invested into the envy hate train that you've conjured every possible negative interpretation of his comments. take a deep breath
hell is other people
spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
April 21 2016 11:15 GMT
#2972
Impressive interpretation
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
April 21 2016 11:31 GMT
#2973
You have to be a special sort of bitter to get that from the interview.

Shame.
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
PoulsenB
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland7728 Posts
April 21 2016 12:09 GMT
#2974
Less than 18 hours till the boys' first match in ESL

get hyypeeee
IdrA fan forever <3 || the clueless one || Marci must be protected at all costs
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22212 Posts
April 21 2016 12:27 GMT
#2975
On April 21 2016 19:32 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2016 09:34 goody153 wrote:
On April 21 2016 08:09 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
http://www.redbull.com/en/esports/stories/1331788685817/eternal-envy-on-the-new-team-secret

Envy is a fucking moron, wow. Really wish they fail at a Manila major, honestly.

Care to elaborate ? Which statement did he disagree with you that makes you think he's a "fucking moron" ?

What did make you so angry that you want them to loss and fail ?

The basic summary of that interview: w33 is good only on 1.5 heroes, we kicked him because we had an early-game problems, not because arteezy decided to jump ship again; EG were trash; I am so fucking pro I can learn any hero in a week and teach Universe of all people how he should play, messaging him after EVERY pub (it's one thing to do it, but certainly another to tell this publicly).

When you hear it from a carry that isn't even top10 world and is known for his hillarious mistakes and awful taste, you can't help it but wish him fail miSeRably. And get kicked.


lol, the disconnect between what you claim he said, and what he actually said, is vast.
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44237 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-21 14:08:58
April 21 2016 14:04 GMT
#2976
On April 21 2016 19:32 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2016 09:34 goody153 wrote:
On April 21 2016 08:09 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
http://www.redbull.com/en/esports/stories/1331788685817/eternal-envy-on-the-new-team-secret

Envy is a fucking moron, wow. Really wish they fail at a Manila major, honestly.

Care to elaborate ? Which statement did he disagree with you that makes you think he's a "fucking moron" ?

What did make you so angry that you want them to loss and fail ?

The basic summary of that interview: w33 is good only on 1.5 heroes, we kicked him because we had an early-game problems, not because arteezy decided to jump ship again; EG were trash; I am so fucking pro I can learn any hero in a week and teach Universe of all people how he should play, messaging him after EVERY pub (it's one thing to do it, but certainly another to tell this publicly).

When you hear it from a carry that isn't even top10 world and is known for his hillarious mistakes and awful taste, you can't help it but wish him fail miSeRably. And get kicked.



Ok dude ROFL
this is a quote
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
April 22 2016 02:21 GMT
#2977
So freaking excited to see them play.

Except I have lots of work so won't be able to catch many of the games. But oh well.
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
shouldbeworking
Profile Joined October 2014
946 Posts
April 22 2016 03:22 GMT
#2978
The most hyped drama filled meme team is finally going to play. We are either going to usher in a new era of Doto or fucken laugh ourselves to death with bad jokes. Fuck im hyped either way.
Racket
Profile Joined July 2013
3023 Posts
April 22 2016 06:48 GMT
#2979
On April 21 2016 19:32 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2016 09:34 goody153 wrote:
On April 21 2016 08:09 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
http://www.redbull.com/en/esports/stories/1331788685817/eternal-envy-on-the-new-team-secret

Envy is a fucking moron, wow. Really wish they fail at a Manila major, honestly.

Care to elaborate ? Which statement did he disagree with you that makes you think he's a "fucking moron" ?

What did make you so angry that you want them to loss and fail ?

The basic summary of that interview: w33 is good only on 1.5 heroes, we kicked him because we had an early-game problems, not because arteezy decided to jump ship again; EG were trash; I am so fucking pro I can learn any hero in a week and teach Universe of all people how he should play, messaging him after EVERY pub (it's one thing to do it, but certainly another to tell this publicly).

When you hear it from a carry that isn't even top10 world and is known for his hillarious mistakes and awful taste, you can't help it but wish him fail miSeRably. And get kicked.


Dude, I think Envy implies that RTZ is half the WR w33 is, not that w33 plays the hero half bad/good. And he is not teaching Universe how to play but how he plays so they can understand each other, Universe may be doing the same for all we know. The problem with Envy is the wording, you can see that in his blogs. It seems he sucks at communicating outside the game.
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11075 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-22 07:44:49
April 22 2016 07:44 GMT
#2980
Yeah that interview is a lot more positive than he's making it out to be. Talking about losing out on the W33po
Biomine is a drunken chick who is on industrial strength amphetamines and would just grab your dick and jerk it as hard and violently as she could while screaming 'OMG FUCK ME', because she saw it in a Sasha Grey video ...-Wombat_Ni
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