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Racket
3023 Posts
On November 22 2015 03:42 Zuleyka wrote: I'm not going to flame albeit a little disappointed at Puppey's drafting in the Grand Finals. With that said, being in the Grand Finals on 4 LANs in a row is still a good accomplishment. No doubt, it is good enough even if people expected better | ||
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Bastank
15 Posts
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Verniy
Canada3360 Posts
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Nakama
Germany584 Posts
On November 22 2015 03:44 Racket wrote: No doubt, it is good enough even if people expected better True but also they all chocked soo bad in the finals it makes me sad... all 3 cores get solo´d during the laning phase in game 4 + a splitpush strat with almost no waveclear to delay incoming pushes.... it was meant to be lost and envy going from hero to zero in 1 day =((( | ||
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spudde123
4814 Posts
In general I think Secret just didn't have the answers to OG's drafts. Had they met them before maybe it would have been different, but the WW+Dazzle screwed them over hard in the first two games, though I suppose second game was winnable. | ||
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goody153
44282 Posts
On November 22 2015 03:56 spudde123 wrote: I don't think the tp thing that Maelk&co were harping on was even important. I don't see how they are supposed to win a fight there if they commit and go in. Especially given how the early game went it was rather impossible for Secret imo. First w33 gets soloed by Miracle, then OG tries to gank w33 again, Dazzle comes to help, then Doom goes on EE bottom at the same time. After such a start OG was free to just walk into Secret's jungle without a care in the world and later there was nothing Secret could do to defend a single tower. In general I think Secret just didn't have the answers to OG's drafts. Had they met them before maybe it would have been different, but the WW+Dazzle screwed them over hard in the first two games, though I suppose second game was winnable. Yeah WW+dazzle just fucked them hard. | ||
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Acritter
Syria7637 Posts
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uthgard
2098 Posts
well the team played well overall, maybe not enough preparation for OG in general but who can't blame them if they prepare more to face EG 4 tournament grand finals in a row since the team assembled, not bad m8 | ||
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Racket
3023 Posts
Being the best for a large margin for a long time, in a game where its balance keeps getting toyed with, is really hard to achieve. Na`Vi did it when the game wasn't that serious as it is now, expecting it to happen again is being naive. | ||
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Tien
Russian Federation4447 Posts
On November 22 2015 03:49 Verniy wrote: just reminding people 2nd place isn't a bad result Puppey was saying before the tournament that top 3 is the goal in a very stacked tournament like this. 4 lan finals in a row, that's actually extremely difficult to accomplish, the last and only team to do it was Secret as well. | ||
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WolfintheSheep
Canada14127 Posts
On November 22 2015 05:32 Tien wrote: Puppey was saying before the tournament that top 3 is the goal in a very stacked tournament like this. 4 lan finals in a row, that's actually extremely difficult to accomplish, the last and only team to do it was Secret as well. This is actually the first time they've made 4 in a row... And I'm pretty sure the last one to do so was Alliance. | ||
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Tien
Russian Federation4447 Posts
Very impressed with that team for last 3 months. | ||
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LemOn
United Kingdom8629 Posts
Lol @anyone wanting any changes | ||
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FuzzyJAM
Scotland9300 Posts
OG surprised people. I think Secret need to work on preparing for teams they maybe don't expect to have to face - they didn't prepare for Vega, and I doubt they prepared for OG either. | ||
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WolfintheSheep
Canada14127 Posts
On November 22 2015 06:51 FuzzyJAM wrote: Second place still solidifies Secret as the best team in the world - only EG could have taken that title from them and they placed 3rd. It's just really tight at the top right now, that's all. OG surprised people. I think Secret need to work on preparing for teams they maybe don't expect to have to face - they didn't prepare for Vega, and I doubt they prepared for OG either. "Best team in the world" is such a stupid statement meant to prop up teams you like. EG is the highest earning team ever, for good reasons. Secret is one of the most consistently winning teams, for good reasons. And OG just won one of the tournaments that really matter in this game, for good reasons. | ||
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mRpolite
189 Posts
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sacrilegious
Canada863 Posts
Worked once strictly as a surprise... never again | ||
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Zuleyka
United States17 Posts
On November 22 2015 07:24 sacrilegious wrote: The only thing I hope never to see is a support Tony on PLD again Worked once strictly as a surprise... never again Technically, it worked twice. Once against VG and another against EG. I'm not sure how that worked against EG since Puppey drafted exactly like they did when they ran it against VG and PPD somehow didn't see it coming. | ||
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adzzlie
Korea (South)81 Posts
But as some people commented above, This new roster Team Secret, entered 4 LANs finals, won two of them. Those were actually amazing. Some people might say that these feats are not comparable to Team Secret 2.0. But, don't forget that Team Secret 2.0 was literally an all-star superpower team. And also at that time, the all-star superpower team got 8-12th place at TI5, which I personally think is not a good achievement. So, GG OG, WP Secret. | ||
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FuzzyJAM
Scotland9300 Posts
On November 22 2015 07:02 WolfintheSheep wrote: "Best team in the world" is such a stupid statement meant to prop up teams you like. EG is the highest earning team ever, for good reasons. Secret is one of the most consistently winning teams, for good reasons. And OG just won one of the tournaments that really matter in this game, for good reasons. "Best team in the world" means, to me, that if I had to pick one team to put my life savings on for a tournament next week, it would be Secret. To me, that makes them the best - for a given value of "best", to be sure. Of course, I heavily emphasised how tight it was at the top precisely because it's not a clear cut decision: if someone wants to argue for EG as the better bet (or even OG), then that's fine. Of course there are other meanings of "best team", and if someone wants to say something like "Alliance is the best team in the world" based on their long spell of dominance I'd say "Yeah, that's an argument", but it's not a position that would clash with mine and not really what I was talking about. I thought my position was relatively clear, but if you had some confusion and really cared you were free to ask. Instead, you insulted me for no reason. "Best team in the world" is a malleable concept, you're right. I think that's kind of obvious, and given that language is inherently contextual I don't know why you think that's a problem or why you feel the need to attack people over it. Maybe you had a rough day or something though, so hopefully you're feeling happy now.  | ||
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