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GiveMeYourtTots
Profile Joined May 2014
990 Posts
September 21 2015 19:16 GMT
#1381
Like wtf is this shit? Honestly this is not fucking ok. The worst part is that this isn't their best, they are much better than this.
MirageTaN
Profile Joined June 2012
Singapore871 Posts
September 21 2015 19:18 GMT
#1382
I was never a huge fan of Alliance but I respected them deeply , however their performance now is pathetic. Losing to a team of unknowns. The Titian has fallen
#TLWIN TI7, TLDota BEST TL
Zea!
Profile Joined November 2006
9589 Posts
September 21 2015 19:28 GMT
#1383
I'm not that surprised they are losing honestly, seen their last games.
The Real Power~
Elyvilon
Profile Joined August 2008
United States13143 Posts
September 21 2015 19:32 GMT
#1384
pries is yellow submarine so they're not 100% nonames
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GinNtoniC
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Sweden2945 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-21 19:38:36
September 21 2015 19:34 GMT
#1385
On September 22 2015 04:32 Elyvilon wrote:
pries is yellow submarine so they're not 100% nonames

This.

But honestly, the coordination/symmetry is worse than a random pub game.
I would pay good money to hear their teamspeak.

Edit: Although S4 storm makes me feel some hype.
Let's go boys!

Edit 2: Ahhh, this hurts to watch
Huge fan of JulyZerg, HonestTea and that guy Kim Taek Yong.
Zea!
Profile Joined November 2006
9589 Posts
September 21 2015 19:50 GMT
#1386
What's Loda solo mmr btw?
The Real Power~
GinNtoniC
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Sweden2945 Posts
September 21 2015 20:38 GMT
#1387
On September 22 2015 04:50 Zea! wrote:
What's Loda solo mmr btw?

Not a bloody clue. I'd imagine he smurfs mostly. Never seen him stream in his life.

Also: You could physically feel the relief in that last game once they won that crucial teamfight at top (Tusk invis being spotted) and they started rolling. And I don't mean just from me

There's hope lads, here comes game 3!
Huge fan of JulyZerg, HonestTea and that guy Kim Taek Yong.
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
11849 Posts
September 21 2015 21:01 GMT
#1388
On September 22 2015 04:50 Zea! wrote:
What's Loda solo mmr btw?

I remember seeing him at 6.5 or so a few months ago on the top 200 list. This is from memory though, so might be wrong.
Klowney
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden277 Posts
September 21 2015 21:18 GMT
#1389
Should rename to team passive.
midou
Profile Joined April 2008
Bulgaria1168 Posts
September 21 2015 21:23 GMT
#1390
I have been switching the POV of all their players - straight up no clue what to do. Even managed to drag S4 to their level in a month time...
hunter_x
Profile Joined June 2014
Germany2762 Posts
September 21 2015 21:28 GMT
#1391
well played!
GinNtoniC
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Sweden2945 Posts
September 21 2015 21:29 GMT
#1392
We got Huskar'd!
Huge fan of JulyZerg, HonestTea and that guy Kim Taek Yong.
Zea!
Profile Joined November 2006
9589 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-21 21:34:44
September 21 2015 21:30 GMT
#1393
We lost :/.... tbh tho Mynuts and Akke look too similar as supports, they're kinda 5 position, we don't have a real 4, Bulldog needs to stop streaming and seriously tryhard because he's very very rusty.
Loda... well, i don't know, but he's very very bad lately, he can't even farm, misses tons of last hits :/, dunno if he tilted or what
The Real Power~
lookfirewood
Profile Joined May 2011
1212 Posts
September 22 2015 09:43 GMT
#1394
On September 22 2015 06:30 Zea! wrote:
We lost :/.... tbh tho Mynuts and Akke look too similar as supports, they're kinda 5 position, we don't have a real 4, Bulldog needs to stop streaming and seriously tryhard because he's very very rusty.
Loda... well, i don't know, but he's very very bad lately, he can't even farm, misses tons of last hits :/, dunno if he tilted or what


Well 2 things. First off there's no need for those positions in farm etc. It's all about each game now adays. And the old alliance won TI because they reinvented farm prio, there's nothing that says you cant do that again. Maybe two fives is the new shit? The biggest issue is that it's random for them, not intended or trying to break new meta.
Second i think you are right about personal skill. They are all slacking now adays, afaik. They dont spend their time on personal skill. Too many players are full time now and you cant get away with half time. This is at least what I think. They really really need to step up their training both as a team as individually. They have flashes of synergy throughout the games, but nothing that sticks for an entire match. Game 1 vs NiP was a blast to watch. Everything worked out the way they wanted. Lucky strike? Who knows... but it sure shows they are capable, they just need to practice enough to make it standard, not a 1 time luck out.

All that said, it feels so weird that these players have fell so far down, something is odd, something is off. Who knows what but it's really strange. I mean s4 was in secret and did well. Alliance did well before TI qualifiers. Not tier1, but they did well. They had synergy more often then they didn't. Sure they lost but everyone does. Suddenly they're tier 3 or even worse, just a few months later? It's just odd as hell. No one gets crap over night. Even without team spirit and team synergy ppl doesn't get that bad.

Either way. Time will tell, it's too hurtful to watch today. Will try n get the vods when im back home tonight.
R.I.P STX 03.08.2013 never forget.
GinNtoniC
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Sweden2945 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-22 15:30:12
September 22 2015 15:29 GMT
#1395
Yesterday was so painful.
Today: They're starting out really well vs Vega Squadron.
The reason I say that is not because they're ahead x gold in net worth or whatever but because they're actually playing aggressive and taking initiative.
Great to see!
- (Considering they've been so passive in playstyle lately)
Huge fan of JulyZerg, HonestTea and that guy Kim Taek Yong.
Hai1Fyre
Profile Joined May 2014
South Africa270 Posts
September 22 2015 16:06 GMT
#1396
Hey guys! They won a game! :D But can they close out the series...?
Birthdays are good for you. The more you have the longer you live!
GinNtoniC
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Sweden2945 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-22 16:58:21
September 22 2015 16:57 GMT
#1397
I wrote the same in the LR thread but it's worth repeating:
Listening to the casters' analysis right now (end of game 2 vs Vega Squadrion) gives me the good chills
"It seems as if something's switched in the mentality of Alliance today"

Yeah, they're looking composed, focused and on a completely different level than they have these past few weeks.

#happy
Edit: Sure, they have Leshrac and BH in game 2, but it's the way they're approaching the game that gives me hope. They're taking the initiative and are playing with confidence. Love it!
Huge fan of JulyZerg, HonestTea and that guy Kim Taek Yong.
Super_Style
Profile Joined February 2015
296 Posts
September 22 2015 17:09 GMT
#1398
This was probably the best game out of s4 in the past year and a half or so. Honestly didnt expect he could pull something like this. You could see the advantage of dual carry core there in the last fight, all of vega was running after s4 to kill him and no body paid attention to loda on bs killing them all one by one. Sadly this game was an anomaly for s4.
wims80
Profile Joined February 2014
1892 Posts
September 22 2015 17:09 GMT
#1399
They look pretty good with Lesh
Why are my allies so weak and pathetic?
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-22 17:24:05
September 22 2015 17:21 GMT
#1400
did they 2-0?
o they did, sick, ill have to watch g2
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