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GiveMeYourtTots
Profile Joined May 2014
990 Posts
September 24 2015 05:22 GMT
#1421
Honestly they should just stop picking wisp+tiny, they lose every time they try it. Also I don't understand why they didn't ban dazzle. They know it's a hero puppey lovesd to play/draft plus the pick single handedly rekt them in all games. Even if you feel like you can deal with the hero (which they definitely did not) if the enemy team really lieks the hero you might aswell just ban it.
Tesgah
Profile Joined May 2015
Norway71 Posts
September 24 2015 06:08 GMT
#1422
I cheered when they picked Storm and not Tiny as a fourth pick in game two, because I've not seen the wisp-tiny combo do well in forever. I was hoping for something new. But they picked Tiny anyways and he was kited the entire match as usual. So silly to see Loda with aegis run hopelessly around while Secret destroys the rest of the team, picking off Loda last.
bluzi
Profile Joined May 2011
4703 Posts
September 24 2015 07:10 GMT
#1423
On September 24 2015 15:08 Tesgah wrote:
I cheered when they picked Storm and not Tiny as a fourth pick in game two, because I've not seen the wisp-tiny combo do well in forever. I was hoping for something new. But they picked Tiny anyways and he was kited the entire match as usual. So silly to see Loda with aegis run hopelessly around while Secret destroys the rest of the team, picking off Loda last.


I think they lost the game on execution and not the draft , with 7.5k lead they gave away by going on Spectre with no vision and got baited 2 times (storm+io+tiny died) they shouldve played aggresive with that lead but not blind .....
lookfirewood
Profile Joined May 2011
1212 Posts
September 24 2015 07:30 GMT
#1424
On September 24 2015 14:22 GiveMeYourtTots wrote:
Honestly they should just stop picking wisp+tiny, they lose every time they try it. Also I don't understand why they didn't ban dazzle. They know it's a hero puppey lovesd to play/draft plus the pick single handedly rekt them in all games. Even if you feel like you can deal with the hero (which they definitely did not) if the enemy team really lieks the hero you might aswell just ban it.


After the clutch play with the buyback/relocate when they got 3, they were ahead quite a bit. From there they shud've just gone 5 and push tower after tower. Getting more in the lead instead of trying to get pickoffs on spectre. Think that wud've won them the game.
R.I.P STX 03.08.2013 never forget.
Anamorph
Profile Joined September 2015
236 Posts
September 24 2015 09:46 GMT
#1425
As I said, s4 is not the person who throws the game.
In the end the draft in game 1 was catching secret out of their position. That broodmother really destroyed their gameplan and forced them to go for a safelane hero able to manage that issue. W33 played such a great meepo.

It was a clear draft game, it went into late game where a good crystal maiden is just the biggest issue for a meepo. Akke played the fights well, even bulldog took a good position in limiting their farm in the own jungle, but he still does not shine with bm.

Game 2 and 3 just don t got this outdraft component, and then they struggled.
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-24 16:06:42
September 24 2015 15:44 GMT
#1426
so dey gave admirablebulldog carry at last and is carl that random british guy he added to friends list?
o i think carl is s4
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GiveMeYourtTots
Profile Joined May 2014
990 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-24 16:32:01
September 24 2015 16:15 GMT
#1427
Anyone know why loda isn't playing today?
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34171 Posts
September 24 2015 17:19 GMT
#1428
On September 25 2015 00:44 FFGenerations wrote:
so dey gave admirablebulldog carry at last and is carl that random british guy he added to friends list?
o i think carl is s4

carl is s4
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
Tesgah
Profile Joined May 2015
Norway71 Posts
September 24 2015 17:19 GMT
#1429
The NiP curse is strong. Looked good for a moment there in g2.
Elyvilon
Profile Joined August 2008
United States13143 Posts
September 24 2015 17:27 GMT
#1430
one does not stand between NiP and 3rd place finishes

(I actually like NiP a lot but they get third all the time)
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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44132 Posts
September 24 2015 17:32 GMT
#1431
this is a quote
Mutineer
Profile Joined March 2013
New Zealand179 Posts
September 24 2015 17:37 GMT
#1432
I only saw 1/2 of game 2 I was sure it is in a bag. How the hell they loose it?
MonkeyLarry
Profile Joined June 2011
United States60 Posts
September 24 2015 18:13 GMT
#1433
I think the hardest thing for me about this team is that you can FEEL how close they are to being good and I'm hoping they will shine in the next patch, but they're SO close to doing well.
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GinNtoniC
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Sweden2945 Posts
September 24 2015 21:37 GMT
#1434
Well, Loda was sick and had to stay in bed today, hence the standin.
I do agree with MonkeyLarry though, they feel on the verge of getting their shit together. Their are moments of brilliance. Just gotta keep it up!
Huge fan of JulyZerg, HonestTea and that guy Kim Taek Yong.
lookfirewood
Profile Joined May 2011
1212 Posts
September 25 2015 14:58 GMT
#1435
On September 25 2015 03:13 MonkeyLarry wrote:
I think the hardest thing for me about this team is that you can FEEL how close they are to being good and I'm hoping they will shine in the next patch, but they're SO close to doing well.


Yeah im still chocked with the vast distance between their best and worst tho. At times they just do things that shudn't be possible, and then they throw all of that away by just standing in the wrong place or going uphill without vision is stupid places. Traps that should be commonplace not to fall into at pro level. But yeah.
R.I.P STX 03.08.2013 never forget.
Tesgah
Profile Joined May 2015
Norway71 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-25 20:04:53
September 25 2015 20:03 GMT
#1436
Today's matches were so clowny, as if they did not bother to counterdraft at all. As if they didn't even look at mff"s draft. Complete collapse in almost every lane and no late game plan to speak of.

Bulldog dancing by the enemy fountain at the end there.. imagine their frustration. How long can this go on before Alliance falls apart?
spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-25 20:19:21
September 25 2015 20:16 GMT
#1437
Well I don't think they have much of a choice, they will work at it until the qualifiers of the first major and then probably re-evaluate things in the next transfer period. I have no clue what the feeling in the team is like, but even if they wanted to change players and try to go through open qualifiers it's hard to see who they could suddenly recruit. And the major qualifiers are pretty close anyway, it's only like 2 weeks or so. Best to just try your best until then at least and then think about how the team should continue if they were to fail in the qualifiers.

Drafting wise though imo their drafts were very strong against Secret (games 1 and 2) in the WCA quals, and you could see they could have won both of those games. If they find something draft wise that works for them things can improve pretty quickly, at least to a level where they can qualify for the major.
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
September 25 2015 20:50 GMT
#1438
On September 26 2015 05:03 Tesgah wrote:
Bulldog dancing by the enemy fountain at the end there.. imagine their frustration. How long can this go on before Alliance falls apart?


More like how long before Bulldog decides to take a break, Alliance get decent results with a new offlaner, and Bulldog comes back to take the offlane spot
Zea!
Profile Joined November 2006
9589 Posts
September 25 2015 20:55 GMT
#1439
What a disaster...
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sweetkay
Profile Joined January 2015
206 Posts
September 25 2015 21:11 GMT
#1440
On September 26 2015 05:50 DucK- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2015 05:03 Tesgah wrote:
Bulldog dancing by the enemy fountain at the end there.. imagine their frustration. How long can this go on before Alliance falls apart?


More like how long before Bulldog decides to take a break, Alliance get decent results with a new offlaner, and Bulldog comes back to take the offlane spot


Honestly I don't think Bulldog is the problem. A whole new roster with more dedicated players is in order. Built around S4 would be good. The old Alliance should have been burried a long time ago. Now they will just end on a sad sad note instead of going out with head held high.
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