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Mutineer
Profile Joined March 2013
New Zealand179 Posts
September 04 2015 10:04 GMT
#1301
As i sad, i did not see other games, but shutting down one player should not cause team to collapse. If one team concentrate on shutting down one player = the rest of the team have freedom to act.
Racket
Profile Joined July 2013
3023 Posts
September 04 2015 10:19 GMT
#1302
On September 04 2015 16:49 DucK- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2015 14:46 elagrion wrote:
On September 04 2015 14:16 DucK- wrote:
Goes to show how much a playmaking mid player can change a team. Still needs a more impactful support to replace mynuts, and maybe another offlaner that does not rely too heavily on farm furion to perform.

Here, I fixed it. <3
Actually it would be interesting to see teams utilising their sub-s to play some specific heroes or style. Will that happen? I think most will just play as 5 and use subs in case of shit (visa/health issues).


Kinda harsh though. Bulldog does well with many other heroes if he isn't shut down hard. But when he is, you see him unable to make any impact. He ends up either being passive by farming, or playing suicidal low net worth clockwerk role etc.

I don't think he was serious, but joking and meme-ing instead.
Zea!
Profile Joined November 2006
9589 Posts
September 04 2015 19:06 GMT
#1303
When next games of the boys?
The Real Power~
Tesgah
Profile Joined May 2015
Norway71 Posts
September 05 2015 01:00 GMT
#1304
How do you think Loda and Akke performed against NiP?
Elyvilon
Profile Joined August 2008
United States13143 Posts
September 05 2015 01:30 GMT
#1305
On September 05 2015 04:06 Zea! wrote:
When next games of the boys?

unknown

they'll probably be in the defense, which is starting up in a couple of days
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GinNtoniC
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Sweden2945 Posts
September 05 2015 10:15 GMT
#1306
On September 05 2015 04:06 Zea! wrote:
When next games of the boys?

The 15th of September. Akke just tweeted about it.
Huge fan of JulyZerg, HonestTea and that guy Kim Taek Yong.
MonkeyLarry
Profile Joined June 2011
United States60 Posts
September 05 2015 16:03 GMT
#1307
Anyone know as to why Alliance isn't going to Gaming Paradise anymore? I could have sworn they were in the list before, but they're not there etc.
Grubby TLO WhiteRa Snute Bunny | Liquid, Alliance, Na'Vi, EG, OG
Zea!
Profile Joined November 2006
9589 Posts
September 05 2015 17:06 GMT
#1308
On September 06 2015 01:03 MonkeyLarry wrote:
Anyone know as to why Alliance isn't going to Gaming Paradise anymore? I could have sworn they were in the list before, but they're not there etc.


They said they weren't invited, was just an error.
The Real Power~
Hai1Fyre
Profile Joined May 2014
South Africa270 Posts
September 05 2015 18:18 GMT
#1309
Why is S4 not on the team in the in game profile? He also played with a standin tag against NIP if I recall correctly? I seem to remember he had the Alliance tag against Abraxos
Birthdays are good for you. The more you have the longer you live!
Lachrymose
Profile Joined February 2008
Australia1928 Posts
September 06 2015 04:22 GMT
#1310
On September 06 2015 03:18 Hai1Fyre wrote:
Why is S4 not on the team in the in game profile? He also played with a standin tag against NIP if I recall correctly? I seem to remember he had the Alliance tag against Abraxos


The Abraxos game wasn't ticketed, his name was set manually.

The NiP game was ticketed.
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GinNtoniC
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Sweden2945 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-06 08:46:18
September 06 2015 08:45 GMT
#1311
On September 05 2015 10:00 Tesgah wrote:
How do you think Loda and Akke performed against NiP?

Akke's Chen in game 1 was sublime. 10/10
Loda played a great Gyrocopter in that game as well, but it's of course easy to look good as a carry in situation where your team has the entire map on lockdown.
In game 2, Loda's PL was struggling pretty hard and his plays could have been better.
In game 3 I think he made a good comeback with Gyro considering he was shut down pretty hard early/midgame.
Akke had a good game 2 on Visage, making some big bird plays, but his game 3 on WD was lackluster.

Overall: They played well enough.
Huge fan of JulyZerg, HonestTea and that guy Kim Taek Yong.
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
September 06 2015 20:21 GMT
#1312
On September 06 2015 17:45 GinNtoniC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2015 10:00 Tesgah wrote:
How do you think Loda and Akke performed against NiP?

Akke's Chen in game 1 was sublime. 10/10
Loda played a great Gyrocopter in that game as well, but it's of course easy to look good as a carry in situation where your team has the entire map on lockdown.
In game 2, Loda's PL was struggling pretty hard and his plays could have been better.
In game 3 I think he made a good comeback with Gyro considering he was shut down pretty hard early/midgame.
Akke had a good game 2 on Visage, making some big bird plays, but his game 3 on WD was lackluster.

Overall: They played well enough.


Yea akke chen was beautiful. The smoke play at top rune to bait the sf into going for rune was awesome. The mid lane gank on sf via s4 low hp bait + haste rune (of course he has haste..) was cool too. Vintage alliance plays.
Tesgah
Profile Joined May 2015
Norway71 Posts
September 11 2015 18:58 GMT
#1313
Hope our boys don't take the loss too hard, and that they practice a lot and well going forewards. There is great potential in Alliance, but they need serious discipline and diligence if they are to be tier 1 again. They need to be the best TEAM, if no longer the best players.

For what it's worth, I love seeing them play and hope they can recover. #longliveAlliance
Asjo
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
Denmark664 Posts
September 11 2015 19:21 GMT
#1314
Yeah, here's to hoping that Alliance pull it together. Even if their drafts weren't the best for the 4CL match, I certainly appreciate seeing something different. No doubt these players still have something left in them. But yeah, discipline is really the key word here. Even at TI5, where he didn't have the best showing, S4 played really well in one or two matches with Queen of Pain, being able to artfully balance his use of the hero. However, this evening he was playing as if he didn't care, making a lot of silly mistakes.
I am not sure what to say
Zea!
Profile Joined November 2006
9589 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-11 19:52:36
September 11 2015 19:38 GMT
#1315
To me, they aren't practicing enough as a team... Bulldog is always streaming and even if i love his stream i don't know what's the purpose of playing with 5k + players and girls while other pros are constantly playing in the 7k bracket, if you check Loda's dotabuff he's just playing random games with random heroes instead of practicing hard carries, Akke looks like he doesn't play that much.

I think they have to start taking things seriously and play 8-9 hrs/day AS A TEAM to improve... and i'll never doubt S4's captaining, some picks today may seem weird, but they have to try something out of the box.

That said, hope they can recover...
The Real Power~
TMG26
Profile Joined July 2012
Portugal2017 Posts
September 11 2015 20:09 GMT
#1316
they can't play as a team that much time because Akke has a job.

Also most non chinese team don't practice together that much, they mostly pub.
Supporter of the situational Blink Dagger on Storm.
Asjo
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
Denmark664 Posts
September 11 2015 20:27 GMT
#1317
On September 12 2015 05:09 TMG26 wrote:
they can't play as a team that much time because Akke has a job.

Also most non chinese team don't practice together that much, they mostly pub.


But playing together is the only thing that really makes sense if you want to be competitive. Just pubbing is pretty useless in that regard. For their sake, I hope Alliance manage to get at least 2-3 hours of practice together every day despite Akke's difficulties finding the time. Otherwise, I don't see how they can have any hope of getting back to the top of the Dota scene.
I am not sure what to say
Zea!
Profile Joined November 2006
9589 Posts
September 11 2015 21:03 GMT
#1318
2-3 hours of practice at those levels are nothing guys.... Arteezy said in his ask.fm he can play 10 hours per day (in 7k+ bracket, not 5k) to train, if they want to ever accomplish anything, they NEED to play that much at highest levels for a long time otherwise, they'll never reach anything, if they are ok with it i don't mind, i'll Always support the boys no matter what.
The Real Power~
TMG26
Profile Joined July 2012
Portugal2017 Posts
September 11 2015 21:16 GMT
#1319
On September 12 2015 06:03 Zea! wrote:
2-3 hours of practice at those levels are nothing guys.... Arteezy said in his ask.fm he can play 10 hours per day (in 7k+ bracket, not 5k) to train, if they want to ever accomplish anything, they NEED to play that much at highest levels for a long time otherwise, they'll never reach anything, if they are ok with it i don't mind, i'll Always support the boys no matter what.


He play 10hr, but not 10hr in scrims.
Supporter of the situational Blink Dagger on Storm.
Zea!
Profile Joined November 2006
9589 Posts
September 11 2015 21:17 GMT
#1320
On September 12 2015 06:16 TMG26 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2015 06:03 Zea! wrote:
2-3 hours of practice at those levels are nothing guys.... Arteezy said in his ask.fm he can play 10 hours per day (in 7k+ bracket, not 5k) to train, if they want to ever accomplish anything, they NEED to play that much at highest levels for a long time otherwise, they'll never reach anything, if they are ok with it i don't mind, i'll Always support the boys no matter what.


He play 10hr, but not 10hr in scrims.


Still, against 7k+ opponents
The Real Power~
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