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wims80
Profile Joined February 2014
1892 Posts
August 17 2015 19:42 GMT
#1161
Misery?
Why are my allies so weak and pathetic?
WakaDoDo
Profile Joined July 2009
Sweden1183 Posts
August 17 2015 20:04 GMT
#1162
Hopefully they could restart with the likes of Misery and Chessie like last time, but without the issues of injury .
GinNtoniC
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Sweden2945 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-18 11:19:50
August 18 2015 11:17 GMT
#1163
S4 is still on Secret (as recently confirmed by Cybortmatt), but it's not out of the question that he rejoins.

I watched Chessie stream a couple of days ago and he was asked about the state of his back/neck problems and it was said by one of his mods that even though he is better, he's not fully recovered and don't know if he ever will be (possibly chronical). I want to hear the words coming straight from Chessie though before really believing anything.
Chessie has proven to have great synergy with Loda & co (stated by Loda in several interviews), so if his health is better that would be a great solution. Lord knows Chessie can play a bunch more heroes now than he did 1 year ago.

As to whether or not Mad will stay, that's an interesting one. Bulldog has stated a few times that one of the reasons he came back to play for (A) was because Mad had decided to come on board and Bulldog supposedly felt very excited to play with Mad in particular. Whether or not that still holds true I don't know.
Loda has always been obsessed with the idea of an all-Swedish team (superior communication etc) and he does seem to be the main authority after all.

Just to toy with the idea (assuming a Swedish player is what they're looking for): What Swedish quality drafter/shot-caller is available at the moment? My mind goes to pieliedie, but I have no idea what he's doing right now or if he's in shape anymore.
Huge fan of JulyZerg, HonestTea and that guy Kim Taek Yong.
lookfirewood
Profile Joined May 2011
1212 Posts
August 18 2015 15:38 GMT
#1164
On August 18 2015 20:17 GinNtoniC wrote:
S4 is still on Secret (as recently confirmed by Cybortmatt), but it's not out of the question that he rejoins.

I watched Chessie stream a couple of days ago and he was asked about the state of his back/neck problems and it was said by one of his mods that even though he is better, he's not fully recovered and don't know if he ever will be (possibly chronical). I want to hear the words coming straight from Chessie though before really believing anything.
Chessie has proven to have great synergy with Loda & co (stated by Loda in several interviews), so if his health is better that would be a great solution. Lord knows Chessie can play a bunch more heroes now than he did 1 year ago.

As to whether or not Mad will stay, that's an interesting one. Bulldog has stated a few times that one of the reasons he came back to play for (A) was because Mad had decided to come on board and Bulldog supposedly felt very excited to play with Mad in particular. Whether or not that still holds true I don't know.
Loda has always been obsessed with the idea of an all-Swedish team (superior communication etc) and he does seem to be the main authority after all.

Just to toy with the idea (assuming a Swedish player is what they're looking for): What Swedish quality drafter/shot-caller is available at the moment? My mind goes to pieliedie, but I have no idea what he's doing right now or if he's in shape anymore.


Rumour has it pld is playing with ee, ppy, misry +1. Remains to be seen tho.

I'd love for handsken to come to alliance, but that's just a dream. s4 would be awesome too. Damn these reshuffles are a pain to wait out, and with the new valve system of leagues etc we're only gonna get more of them shuffles! yak!
R.I.P STX 03.08.2013 never forget.
Hai1Fyre
Profile Joined May 2014
South Africa270 Posts
August 18 2015 17:29 GMT
#1165
On August 19 2015 00:38 lookfirewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2015 20:17 GinNtoniC wrote:
S4 is still on Secret (as recently confirmed by Cybortmatt), but it's not out of the question that he rejoins.

I watched Chessie stream a couple of days ago and he was asked about the state of his back/neck problems and it was said by one of his mods that even though he is better, he's not fully recovered and don't know if he ever will be (possibly chronical). I want to hear the words coming straight from Chessie though before really believing anything.
Chessie has proven to have great synergy with Loda & co (stated by Loda in several interviews), so if his health is better that would be a great solution. Lord knows Chessie can play a bunch more heroes now than he did 1 year ago.

As to whether or not Mad will stay, that's an interesting one. Bulldog has stated a few times that one of the reasons he came back to play for (A) was because Mad had decided to come on board and Bulldog supposedly felt very excited to play with Mad in particular. Whether or not that still holds true I don't know.
Loda has always been obsessed with the idea of an all-Swedish team (superior communication etc) and he does seem to be the main authority after all.

Just to toy with the idea (assuming a Swedish player is what they're looking for): What Swedish quality drafter/shot-caller is available at the moment? My mind goes to pieliedie, but I have no idea what he's doing right now or if he's in shape anymore.


Rumour has it pld is playing with ee, ppy, misry +1. Remains to be seen tho.

I'd love for handsken to come to alliance, but that's just a dream. s4 would be awesome too. Damn these reshuffles are a pain to wait out, and with the new valve system of leagues etc we're only gonna get more of them shuffles! yak!

I think the whole point of the majors is to have less shuffles, that's why all of this is happening now before teams are 'locked' on 1st September
Birthdays are good for you. The more you have the longer you live!
lookfirewood
Profile Joined May 2011
1212 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-18 22:06:40
August 18 2015 22:06 GMT
#1166
On August 19 2015 02:29 Hai1Fyre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2015 00:38 lookfirewood wrote:
On August 18 2015 20:17 GinNtoniC wrote:
S4 is still on Secret (as recently confirmed by Cybortmatt), but it's not out of the question that he rejoins.

I watched Chessie stream a couple of days ago and he was asked about the state of his back/neck problems and it was said by one of his mods that even though he is better, he's not fully recovered and don't know if he ever will be (possibly chronical). I want to hear the words coming straight from Chessie though before really believing anything.
Chessie has proven to have great synergy with Loda & co (stated by Loda in several interviews), so if his health is better that would be a great solution. Lord knows Chessie can play a bunch more heroes now than he did 1 year ago.

As to whether or not Mad will stay, that's an interesting one. Bulldog has stated a few times that one of the reasons he came back to play for (A) was because Mad had decided to come on board and Bulldog supposedly felt very excited to play with Mad in particular. Whether or not that still holds true I don't know.
Loda has always been obsessed with the idea of an all-Swedish team (superior communication etc) and he does seem to be the main authority after all.

Just to toy with the idea (assuming a Swedish player is what they're looking for): What Swedish quality drafter/shot-caller is available at the moment? My mind goes to pieliedie, but I have no idea what he's doing right now or if he's in shape anymore.


Rumour has it pld is playing with ee, ppy, misry +1. Remains to be seen tho.

I'd love for handsken to come to alliance, but that's just a dream. s4 would be awesome too. Damn these reshuffles are a pain to wait out, and with the new valve system of leagues etc we're only gonna get more of them shuffles! yak!

I think the whole point of the majors is to have less shuffles, that's why all of this is happening now before teams are 'locked' on 1st September


Indeed, but it also caters for an environment where there will be shuffles in between. Teams are only locked during the majors. So the closer to TI the more "locked" the teams will feel. Thus, this early in the year will only cater for more shuffles.
R.I.P STX 03.08.2013 never forget.
GinNtoniC
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Sweden2945 Posts
August 19 2015 08:19 GMT
#1167
Hmm, as Ha1Fyre said, the point was partly to reduce team shuffling and have a more vibrant competitive scene all year round, but how it actually will work out remains to be scene.
I'm super psyched to see if they already have a big name lined up or if they're bringing in new talent.
7ckingmad seemed to be a keeper at the beginning of the summer and I think they have faith in him. Still, he might be replaced considering Loda's affection for all-Swedish lineups.
Huge fan of JulyZerg, HonestTea and that guy Kim Taek Yong.
unkkz
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Norway2196 Posts
August 19 2015 11:47 GMT
#1168
From what i've seen Loda is the one in need of replacing the most. Still remember some PL game a month or two before TI where he goes split pushing alone while enemy sieges the base. He has no TP or BoT's so the enemy team just pushes into the Alliance base and wipes them 5vs4 winning the game right there. Can't see any other carry doing shit like that, not even yolo XBOX.

When they played TI3 it wasn't just them on top of the meta, Loda was always playing very well. He never got caught out of position, always found farm etc. But now... he's just bad.
lolnoty
Profile Joined December 2005
United States7166 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-19 12:57:42
August 19 2015 12:56 GMT
#1169
Roster locks in no way at all reduce shuffling. If anything, they make them more frequent by defining the windows multiple times per year. Prior to this, roster shuffles typically had two broad windows - post-TI, and end of year/early of year.

Roster locks only accomplish making the process accelerated and organized. There's still good in this because last year people ultimately disregarded 5-6 months of the entire year because teams were shuffling forever, and if one team wasn't half of their opponents were so their victories had a large asterisk.

This one month after TI we'll have a season of teams ready to go, where last year you weren't sure what the fuck was happening until 3 months out.
"PPD is a very angry guy. He controls us." - Arteezy
bluzi
Profile Joined May 2011
4703 Posts
August 19 2015 13:22 GMT
#1170
On August 19 2015 21:56 lolnoty wrote:
Roster locks in no way at all reduce shuffling. If anything, they make them more frequent by defining the windows multiple times per year. Prior to this, roster shuffles typically had two broad windows - post-TI, and end of year/early of year.

Roster locks only accomplish making the process accelerated and organized. There's still good in this because last year people ultimately disregarded 5-6 months of the entire year because teams were shuffling forever, and if one team wasn't half of their opponents were so their victories had a large asterisk.

This one month after TI we'll have a season of teams ready to go, where last year you weren't sure what the fuck was happening until 3 months out.


It all depends on how they(Valve) punish the shuffling teams between majors , like "you are allowed 1 sub between majors , any more and you need to qualify" , i agree that there are more windows , but if valve has strict rules it will be more or less the same.
Piledriver
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1697 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-19 17:36:51
August 19 2015 17:36 GMT
#1171
On August 19 2015 21:56 lolnoty wrote:
Roster locks in no way at all reduce shuffling. If anything, they make them more frequent by defining the windows multiple times per year. Prior to this, roster shuffles typically had two broad windows - post-TI, and end of year/early of year.

Roster locks only accomplish making the process accelerated and organized. There's still good in this because last year people ultimately disregarded 5-6 months of the entire year because teams were shuffling forever, and if one team wasn't half of their opponents were so their victories had a large asterisk.

This one month after TI we'll have a season of teams ready to go, where last year you weren't sure what the fuck was happening until 3 months out.


Ehhh, thats true only for the teams that were doing well in 2014 (Secret, C9, EG). For teams that were doing average/below average, it was open season throughout the year. Just think of how many players [A], Na'vi, VP, Tinker etc. went through in the past year. They literally had changes almost every month. Valve probably wants to control that.
Envy fan since NTH.
hadeeboy
Profile Joined August 2015
Philippines34 Posts
August 19 2015 19:32 GMT
#1172
Is the team roster locked for that Majors only? Or locked for the entire year? Has valve released any info on the mechanics of the majors aside from their post in dota2blog in may?
The doctor is IN... low priority.
lolnoty
Profile Joined December 2005
United States7166 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-19 19:55:25
August 19 2015 19:54 GMT
#1173
On August 20 2015 04:32 hadeeboy wrote:
Is the team roster locked for that Majors only? Or locked for the entire year? Has valve released any info on the mechanics of the majors aside from their post in dota2blog in may?

I don't think there's official public details (the teams know though) but I think it's locked 1-2 months before and then unlocked for a bit after. So there's 3-4 windows for teams to shuffle and still get invited to tournaments. (assuming TI will be Just Another Major and not the 4 months team lock it current is)
"PPD is a very angry guy. He controls us." - Arteezy
lolnoty
Profile Joined December 2005
United States7166 Posts
August 19 2015 19:57 GMT
#1174
On August 20 2015 02:36 Piledriver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2015 21:56 lolnoty wrote:
Roster locks in no way at all reduce shuffling. If anything, they make them more frequent by defining the windows multiple times per year. Prior to this, roster shuffles typically had two broad windows - post-TI, and end of year/early of year.

Roster locks only accomplish making the process accelerated and organized. There's still good in this because last year people ultimately disregarded 5-6 months of the entire year because teams were shuffling forever, and if one team wasn't half of their opponents were so their victories had a large asterisk.

This one month after TI we'll have a season of teams ready to go, where last year you weren't sure what the fuck was happening until 3 months out.


Ehhh, thats true only for the teams that were doing well in 2014 (Secret, C9, EG). For teams that were doing average/below average, it was open season throughout the year. Just think of how many players [A], Na'vi, VP, Tinker etc. went through in the past year. They literally had changes almost every month. Valve probably wants to control that.


Right and they're putting control on it, but it likely it won't (it already isn't) reduce the number of shuffles. It's only going to control them by making them more organized and happen quicker.
"PPD is a very angry guy. He controls us." - Arteezy
Atoissen
Profile Joined July 2011
Norway1737 Posts
August 20 2015 10:45 GMT
#1175
Hmmm... I didnt have alott of faith in S4 back to A, but EE's answere on his askFM suggest he know s4 back in A?

Vaxo Iordanishvili: What do you think about alliance ? especially about loda ? can they come back and suprise us ?‎

EE: S4 is god 42 minutes ago
“Strength lies not in defense but in attack.”
Zea!
Profile Joined November 2006
9589 Posts
August 20 2015 11:46 GMT
#1176
Cr1t? I hope not...
The Real Power~
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
August 20 2015 13:21 GMT
#1177
On August 20 2015 20:46 Zea! wrote:
Cr1t? I hope not...


Cr1t is legit.
bluzi
Profile Joined May 2011
4703 Posts
August 20 2015 13:49 GMT
#1178
If S4 comes back and they get a great #4 its the best chance they have to come back to be a tier 1 team , I'm really hoping that they can come back , because Alliance were without a doubt the best TEAM to watch and root for , great guys , funny and talented (for me ).
Crit is not bad , but i only saw him play CM/Rubick/SK.
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
August 20 2015 14:01 GMT
#1179
On August 20 2015 22:49 bluzi wrote:
If S4 comes back and they get a great #4 its the best chance they have to come back to be a tier 1 team , I'm really hoping that they can come back , because Alliance were without a doubt the best TEAM to watch and root for , great guys , funny and talented (for me ).
Crit is not bad , but i only saw him play CM/Rubick/SK.


Wisp and kunkka too. I still have no idea why synd mouz days, they stopped running support kunkka when they had so much success with it. Then they started sucking.
SQWKZ
Profile Joined February 2011
Finland720 Posts
August 20 2015 14:07 GMT
#1180
Could easily do a lot worse than going for Cr1t, imho.
So zen.
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