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meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
June 01 2015 10:38 GMT
#1041
I blame s4 for Alliance's poor performance
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govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-01 10:44:50
June 01 2015 10:44 GMT
#1042
I think Alliance's decline started when s4 was still on the team, but him leaving surely didn’t help them get back up on there feet.
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GiveMeYourtTots
Profile Joined May 2014
990 Posts
June 01 2015 22:41 GMT
#1043
I honestly think they're decline was much because of Akke. I remember during TI people would ban druid and then dedicate 4 bans just for Akke. He also made huge plays and even though it looked grim in so many of their games but knowing that they had their stable Akke in the back always calmed me down. But since spring 2014 he hasn't looked very good honestly, very rarely does he make big plays and it doesn't feel like he is having much of an impact really.
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
June 02 2015 05:00 GMT
#1044
On June 02 2015 07:41 GiveMeYourtTots wrote:
I honestly think they're decline was much because of Akke. I remember during TI people would ban druid and then dedicate 4 bans just for Akke. He also made huge plays and even though it looked grim in so many of their games but knowing that they had their stable Akke in the back always calmed me down. But since spring 2014 he hasn't looked very good honestly, very rarely does he make big plays and it doesn't feel like he is having much of an impact really.


Have you seen akke's ravages on lion?

I think Akke has not changed. Back then he was never known for making the plays. Alliance's play style was pretty standard. Loda gets free farm. Egm/akke zones + pulls. S4 goes even or better at mid lane on his own. Bulldog disrupts the enemy's ability to pull with bear/treants, then proceeds to jungle. Egm/Akke then makes smart rotations to bank either their safelane or help s4 secure his lane further. Then its methodical plays as s4 will set up ganks with Akke/egm as loda/bulldog out farm their opponents. Then they proceed to get objectives while maintaining map control and their advantage.

Their whole style is basically to get a better headstart than the enemy via farm. Alliance supports can farm, but the enemy can't because of bulldog. Akke was never tasked to create space. He was only meant to assist s4 in doing so.

Now the supports look clueless because there's no s4 to lead the charge. They have to do everything on their own like other teams, and I guess its not a natural thing for them. You could say that they failed to adapt their style, and I guess I would agree somewhat.
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
June 02 2015 07:26 GMT
#1045
Bulldong's sad stream has netted him like $300 in donations within half an hour
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
sweetkay
Profile Joined January 2015
206 Posts
June 02 2015 10:59 GMT
#1046
Why the fuck are the members of Alliance streaming and horsing around. They should be having a crisis meeting right now desperately trying to find a strategy to not completely embarrass themselves at upcoming tournaments like ESL Frankfurt.
wims80
Profile Joined February 2014
1892 Posts
June 02 2015 11:00 GMT
#1047
What are you talking about lol. Professional level insight there
Why are my allies so weak and pathetic?
sweetkay
Profile Joined January 2015
206 Posts
June 02 2015 11:03 GMT
#1048
On June 02 2015 20:00 wims80 wrote:
What are you talking about lol. Professional level insight there


Im talking about how they are basically a T3 team right now and need get their shit together.
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34171 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-02 11:19:07
June 02 2015 11:18 GMT
#1049
Having a crisis and desperately trying to solve their problems will only end worse.
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
lookfirewood
Profile Joined May 2011
1212 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-02 13:03:14
June 02 2015 12:36 GMT
#1050
On June 02 2015 19:59 sweetkay wrote:
Why the fuck are the members of Alliance streaming and horsing around. They should be having a crisis meeting right now desperately trying to find a strategy to not completely embarrass themselves at upcoming tournaments like ESL Frankfurt.


Jesus man. They just got kicked out of TI. The maint event of the year. They HAVE to disconnect from their team and digest this. They all do it their own way. Bulldog streams cuz he enjoys it. The rest does what they do.

And besides. What do u suggest AB should do after a meeting and the rest of the team does random shit? He wants to stream so he does..
R.I.P STX 03.08.2013 never forget.
TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
June 02 2015 13:01 GMT
#1051
What are you going to do at this point?

If you do anything, you do it in October and February. Now is too late.
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DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
June 02 2015 13:52 GMT
#1052
They have no motivation to do anything since they are no longer participating in the biggest tournament around. I'd say they chill now and await news of next season's majors, and then prepare for it (with or without their current roster).

They may want to practise a little bit for the other upcoming tournaments though.
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
June 02 2015 14:22 GMT
#1053
On June 02 2015 22:52 DucK- wrote:
They have no motivation to do anything since they are no longer participating in the biggest tournament around. I'd say they chill now and await news of next season's majors, and then prepare for it (with or without their current roster).

They may want to practise a little bit for the other upcoming tournaments though.

What's the next tournament they're playing?
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lookfirewood
Profile Joined May 2011
1212 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-02 14:27:22
June 02 2015 14:23 GMT
#1054
On June 02 2015 22:52 DucK- wrote:
They have no motivation to do anything since they are no longer participating in the biggest tournament around. I'd say they chill now and await news of next season's majors, and then prepare for it (with or without their current roster).

They may want to practise a little bit for the other upcoming tournaments though.


My bet is they are going to prep for ESL. It's a very stacked tournament (mini TI, participation wise), and if alliance is going to stand a chance with the current lineup, ESL is a real test for them.
R.I.P STX 03.08.2013 never forget.
lookfirewood
Profile Joined May 2011
1212 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-02 14:27:55
June 02 2015 14:25 GMT
#1055
On June 02 2015 23:22 IntoTheheart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2015 22:52 DucK- wrote:
They have no motivation to do anything since they are no longer participating in the biggest tournament around. I'd say they chill now and await news of next season's majors, and then prepare for it (with or without their current roster).

They may want to practise a little bit for the other upcoming tournaments though.

What's the next tournament they're playing?


http://wiki.teamliquid.net/dota2/JoinDOTA_MLG_Pro_League/Season_2/LAN_Finals

MLG. Participation wise it's not that interesting, so A might not put that much effort into this. But who knows. They were struggling vs T2 teams in the TIqualifiers so this might be a good start back to the top.
R.I.P STX 03.08.2013 never forget.
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
June 02 2015 14:31 GMT
#1056
On June 02 2015 23:25 lookfirewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2015 23:22 IntoTheheart wrote:
On June 02 2015 22:52 DucK- wrote:
They have no motivation to do anything since they are no longer participating in the biggest tournament around. I'd say they chill now and await news of next season's majors, and then prepare for it (with or without their current roster).

They may want to practise a little bit for the other upcoming tournaments though.

What's the next tournament they're playing?


http://wiki.teamliquid.net/dota2/JoinDOTA_MLG_Pro_League/Season_2/LAN_Finals

MLG. Participation wise it's not that interesting, so A might not put that much effort into this. But who knows. They were struggling vs T2 teams in the TIqualifiers so this might be a good start back to the top.

I feel like there are still teams there that [A] wouldn't mind seeing if they can beat. EG, and Mouz come to mind.
kiss kiss fall in love
lookfirewood
Profile Joined May 2011
1212 Posts
June 02 2015 15:15 GMT
#1057
On June 02 2015 23:31 IntoTheheart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2015 23:25 lookfirewood wrote:
On June 02 2015 23:22 IntoTheheart wrote:
On June 02 2015 22:52 DucK- wrote:
They have no motivation to do anything since they are no longer participating in the biggest tournament around. I'd say they chill now and await news of next season's majors, and then prepare for it (with or without their current roster).

They may want to practise a little bit for the other upcoming tournaments though.

What's the next tournament they're playing?


http://wiki.teamliquid.net/dota2/JoinDOTA_MLG_Pro_League/Season_2/LAN_Finals

MLG. Participation wise it's not that interesting, so A might not put that much effort into this. But who knows. They were struggling vs T2 teams in the TIqualifiers so this might be a good start back to the top.

I feel like there are still teams there that [A] wouldn't mind seeing if they can beat. EG, and Mouz come to mind.


Yes ofc. But compared to ESL i mean.
R.I.P STX 03.08.2013 never forget.
Zea!
Profile Joined November 2006
9589 Posts
June 02 2015 16:36 GMT
#1058
On June 02 2015 23:25 lookfirewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2015 23:22 IntoTheheart wrote:
On June 02 2015 22:52 DucK- wrote:
They have no motivation to do anything since they are no longer participating in the biggest tournament around. I'd say they chill now and await news of next season's majors, and then prepare for it (with or without their current roster).

They may want to practise a little bit for the other upcoming tournaments though.

What's the next tournament they're playing?


http://wiki.teamliquid.net/dota2/JoinDOTA_MLG_Pro_League/Season_2/LAN_Finals

MLG. Participation wise it's not that interesting, so A might not put that much effort into this. But who knows. They were struggling vs T2 teams in the TIqualifiers so this might be a good start back to the top.


They have to partecipate, they need to play the more tournaments possible.
The Real Power~
lookfirewood
Profile Joined May 2011
1212 Posts
June 02 2015 18:02 GMT
#1059
On June 03 2015 01:36 Zea! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2015 23:25 lookfirewood wrote:
On June 02 2015 23:22 IntoTheheart wrote:
On June 02 2015 22:52 DucK- wrote:
They have no motivation to do anything since they are no longer participating in the biggest tournament around. I'd say they chill now and await news of next season's majors, and then prepare for it (with or without their current roster).

They may want to practise a little bit for the other upcoming tournaments though.

What's the next tournament they're playing?


http://wiki.teamliquid.net/dota2/JoinDOTA_MLG_Pro_League/Season_2/LAN_Finals

MLG. Participation wise it's not that interesting, so A might not put that much effort into this. But who knows. They were struggling vs T2 teams in the TIqualifiers so this might be a good start back to the top.


They have to partecipate, they need to play the more tournaments possible.


By participation I meant their competition. My statement "a good start back to the top" actually sums up what you said. They need it to get started.
R.I.P STX 03.08.2013 never forget.
zdfgucker
Profile Joined August 2011
China594 Posts
June 02 2015 20:56 GMT
#1060
On June 02 2015 16:26 plasmidghost wrote:
Bulldong's sad stream has netted him like $300 in donations within half an hour


Got a link?
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