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On May 31 2015 09:57 GiveMeYourtTots wrote:
I wonder what will happen after TI, pretty sure Akke will retire, I don't think he has much passion left honestly. It feels like he is playing mostly because its better than pretty much any job there is for a young guy like him.
Loda I'm not sure, it wouldn't surprise me if he retired after TI5 but he once said in an interview he wanted to win two TI's before he retired. Going to be interesting to see the future roster for Alliance.
I don't think so, Akke posted some time ago in one of his blog during the darkest time (4standin+himself) that he thought about it and concluded that he likes too much the competition to retire now. Dunno if he changed his mindset during time.
And to all the haters, just be happy for now because laughs best who laughs last 
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They need to evolve their thinking as players to ever be a contender again. Over the last year Loda and Akke have shown they are incapable of this. My recommendation would be to take a break from dota and come back in a 4-6 months with a whole new mindset.
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Im 99% certain pieliedie will join alliance, i forgot he is a swede aswell.
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Honestly I feel Bulldong limited hero pull really holded their picks back overall, compared to other teams. Modern days offlaners play such a variaty of heroes and styles, with all this wierd double lanes and other wierd tactics. But bulldong can play good like 6 heroes furi+ld ofc and clockwork, beastmaster, phoenix, brood. Thats about it i think (ok he also plays batrider), other heroes he plays at 5k pub level. Thats why they were forced to certained playstyle , and picking fuking phoniex so much, that were useless most of the times. Other teams offlaners can play top level like qop, shacker, sk, undying, magnus, tide, mirana, nyx, puck, brew, zeus etc. etc whatever really. look at any top team and how flexiable they are in their drafts.
I really liked them with niqua, and how creative and flexiable mad drafted in that period. Then bulldong came and it feels they are forced to draft around him every game..
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Honestly, I think that Loda is a rather bad farmer. He spends too much time running around, and is not as efficient as many of the best #1s out there. I believe Alliance had the right idea when going Loda Centaur or Slardar safe lane. To me it seems that Loda gets the most out of a match if he gets a quick blink and has the potential to be aggressive early alongside a damage dealing Pajkatt and two controlling supports. Against Secret at Starladder that combination stomped.
It will also allow Bulldog and Pajkatt to take more of the farm distribution (Bulldog is in general a great farmer). The way I see it, they should aim for a sub 10 min Loda blink, then move Bulldog to the safe lane to farm. In other words, they might consider giving Bulldog more semi-carry based offlaners, and give Loda the early initiators who gains a lot with early farm. By running such a line up, they will also lose less late game whenever Loda is out of position or extends too much (as he was and did with CK and Tiny this qualifier). In my opinion, it does not make sense to have your #1 be the one lead as well (as when Tiny was force staffed up the hill). If that hero is out of position and picked off, the team lose too much. I think that, as the game progresses, Loda should gradually become the team's #3.
They should not run like this every game, but it's the games they play the best, I think.
#WeAreAlliance
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On May 31 2015 20:45 promiseme wrote:
Honestly I feel Bulldong limited hero pull really holded their picks back overall, compared to other teams. Modern days offlaners play such a variaty of heroes and styles, with all this wierd double lanes and other wierd tactics. But bulldong can play good like 6 heroes furi+ld ofc and clockwork, beastmaster, phoenix, brood. Thats about it i think (ok he also plays batrider), other heroes he plays at 5k pub level. Thats why they were forced to certained playstyle , and picking fuking phoniex so much, that were useless most of the times. Other teams offlaners can play top level like qop, shacker, sk, undying, magnus, tide, mirana, nyx, puck, brew, zeus etc. etc whatever really. look at any top team and how flexiable they are in their drafts.
I really liked them with niqua, and how creative and flexiable mad drafted in that period. Then bulldong came and it feels they are forced to draft around him every game..
I kinda agree. Although i still think he's a better pickup than niqua .. The only heroes i've seen niqua play well are clock and batrider.
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excalibur is also swede and available, I dont know if he can play more hero's besides tinker and meepo but his performances were impressive iirc. The playerpool in sweden is so large, that its actually amazing alliance didnt qualify this year, but it also means there is hope for next season.
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On May 31 2015 21:19 govie wrote:
excalibur is also swede and available, I dont know if he can play more hero's besides tinker and meepobut his performances were impressive iirc. The playerpool in sweden is so large, that its actually amazing alliance didnt qualify this year, but it also means there is hope for next season.
he's really bad .. he's very mediocre on most heroes and i think the only reason why people rate him highly cause they got starstrucked when he played meepo/tinker(and maybe tiny as well) on fnatic
w33ha is even more solid and flexible than him on other heroes
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Niqua was terrible, can you stop please with this no-sense talking? [A] had a nice period just because Pajkatt is very good with Sniper and Troll who were OP in the previous patch but Niqua was always the worst player into matches, i don't remember one single game where Niqua won it for us...
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On May 31 2015 21:40 Zea! wrote:
Niqua was terrible, can you stop please with this no-sense talking? [A] had a nice period just because Pajkatt is very good with Sniper and Troll who were OP in the previous patch but Niqua was always the worst player into matches, i don't remember one single game where Niqua won it for us...
Guys, you and everyone flaming Niqua, the problem is that you compare Bulldog and Niqua based on their impact on the game and that is where you fail. Niqua gave Loda and Paj the space they needed to farm and then translate that into objectives and better results in teamfights. On the other hand, while Bulldog may be a "better" player, he is so dependent on farm for himself that the remaining cores must sacrifice what they need to have an impact themselves.
Bulldog was a step back as a team not as a player. His hero pool is small not because he can play only a few heroes but because he is a beast with NP and LD and that is about it, the remaining heroes in his pool are played at an acceptable level but for that the team suffers and they up in a worse position. Niqua filled that role way better than him. Target ban on Bulldog gave as a result an extremely disorganized and low confident team.
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Alliance has good players, its almost impossible to say for certain that bulldog is indeed the better for for alliance or that alliance with niqua was better (i dont care about "loyalty" crap, this is business, you do whats best for the business... sadly)
But maybe they lack synergy ? maybe they need to shake things up a little bit ? maybe try loda offlane and bulldog safelane ?
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On May 31 2015 23:03 Faruko wrote:
Alliance has good players, its almost impossible to say for certain that bulldog is indeed the better for for alliance or that alliance with niqua was better (i dont care about "loyalty" crap, this is business, you do whats best for the business... sadly)
But maybe they lack synergy ? maybe they need to shake things up a little bit ? maybe try loda offlane and bulldog safelane ?
I would try Bulldog benchlane
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On May 31 2015 21:53 Racket wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2015 21:40 Zea! wrote:
Niqua was terrible, can you stop please with this no-sense talking? [A] had a nice period just because Pajkatt is very good with Sniper and Troll who were OP in the previous patch but Niqua was always the worst player into matches, i don't remember one single game where Niqua won it for us... Guys, you and everyone flaming Niqua, the problem is that you compare Bulldog and Niqua based on their impact on the game and that is where you fail. Niqua gave Loda and Paj the space they needed to farm and then translate that into objectives and better results in teamfights. On the other hand, while Bulldog may be a "better" player, he is so dependent on farm for himself that the remaining cores must sacrifice what they need to have an impact themselves. Bulldog was a step back as a team not as a player. His hero pool is small not because he can play only a few heroes but because he is a beast with NP and LD and that is about it, the remaining heroes in his pool are played at an acceptable level but for that the team suffers and they up in a worse position. Niqua filled that role way better than him. Target ban on Bulldog gave as a result an extremely disorganized and low confident team.
Just no, Niqua gave nothing, he just fed through the game while being carried by Troll/Sniper. They had one month of good results just for the unconventional drafts with slardar+treant, once team figured them out, they started to crumble, when Niqua was kicked they were already having shit results.
Plus, Bulldog can play any hero Niqua plays better than him (better as clock, better as bat, better as ds), so that's it.
Biggest problem imho are Pajkatt that once Troll+Sniper got nerfed, simply slumped very hard and Loda, who isn't a top carry anymore, at least for now.
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On May 31 2015 23:21 Zea! wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2015 21:53 Racket wrote:On May 31 2015 21:40 Zea! wrote:
Niqua was terrible, can you stop please with this no-sense talking? [A] had a nice period just because Pajkatt is very good with Sniper and Troll who were OP in the previous patch but Niqua was always the worst player into matches, i don't remember one single game where Niqua won it for us... Guys, you and everyone flaming Niqua, the problem is that you compare Bulldog and Niqua based on their impact on the game and that is where you fail. Niqua gave Loda and Paj the space they needed to farm and then translate that into objectives and better results in teamfights. On the other hand, while Bulldog may be a "better" player, he is so dependent on farm for himself that the remaining cores must sacrifice what they need to have an impact themselves. Bulldog was a step back as a team not as a player. His hero pool is small not because he can play only a few heroes but because he is a beast with NP and LD and that is about it, the remaining heroes in his pool are played at an acceptable level but for that the team suffers and they up in a worse position. Niqua filled that role way better than him. Target ban on Bulldog gave as a result an extremely disorganized and low confident team. Just no, Niqua gave nothing, he just fed through the game while being carried by Troll/Sniper. They had one month of good results just for the unconventional drafts with slardar+treant, once team figured them out, they started to crumble, when Niqua was kicked they were already having shit results. Plus, Bulldog can play any hero Niqua plays better than him (better as clock, better as bat, better as ds), so that's it. Biggest problem imho are Pajkatt that once Troll+Sniper got nerfed, simply slumped very hard and Loda, who isn't a top carry anymore, at least for now.
Ok, I see it different.
Edit: Or rather, it seems to be quite different given the results with Bulldog. Magically the whole team plays worse with his addition.
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?? Have you watched [A] last month with Niqua? They pretty lost almost every game
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This meta is not a meta for Bulldog anyway, the buffs to his hero are irrelevant in deathballs pushes.
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On June 01 2015 00:25 Zea! wrote:
?? Have you watched [A] last month with Niqua? They pretty lost almost every game
That in general says more about the other three players then it says something about AB or niqua.
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Niqua or bulldog doesn't change a thing. Niqua replacing bulldog would not have won any game that alliance has loss. And I say it as someone who hugely opposes the replacement of niqua. Bulldog is an upgrade over niqua, and its not like he is weaker than niqua on the heroes the latter plays.
Alliance main problem is their gameplay and drafts. Their wins had always been on the back of comfort drafts, or abusing sniper/troll. Bulldog added the new dimension of Prophet. Basically they're bad fundamentally and never deserved to go to TI. There have been no real improvements in their gameplay at all.
To me there is no surprise that alliance did not proceed to the playoffs.
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You, folk of alliance. I do not believe you have roster problem, I believe your currrent roster is fine.
My advice, forgot all this pressure and just try to have fun. I believe that is missing, to mach thinking about results.
It does sound os steriotype, but in your case it is true. Do creasy shit, have bloody fun.
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On June 01 2015 02:56 DucK- wrote:
Niqua or bulldog doesn't change a thing. Niqua replacing bulldog would not have won any game that alliance has loss. And I say it as someone who hugely opposes the replacement of niqua. Bulldog is an upgrade over niqua, and its not like he is weaker than niqua on the heroes the latter plays.
Alliance main problem is their gameplay and drafts. Their wins had always been on the back of comfort drafts, or abusing sniper/troll. Bulldog added the new dimension of Prophet. Basically they're bad fundamentally and never deserved to go to TI. There have been no real improvements in their gameplay at all.
To me there is no surprise that alliance did not proceed to the playoffs.
this is the 7ckngMad recipe: find a style /draft that works, get relative success and then crumble when the style gets figured out/nerfed. It happened to literally every team he's been a part of for the last 2years, DD, Quantic, Sigma...
Alliance has good players but they have zero versatility in gameplay.
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