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GinNtoniC
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Sweden2945 Posts
May 22 2015 16:36 GMT
#981
On May 22 2015 22:32 BillGates wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2015 21:12 GinNtoniC wrote:
BillGates, with all due respect you're kind of talking out of your ass.

Yes, their picks are slightly unconventional, but by what standard does that make a team bad? You pick heroes to suit the style you want to play. There are very few heroes in this patch (or game overall) that are plain bad/should never be picked.
You could turn the entire argument on its head by saying Loda was playing a ton of Slardar in 6.83 and kind of popularized the pick, which now is seen a lot more frequently.

The game with Weaver that you are refering to was quite a bad draft yes; their gameplan of shutting down the UD/Tombstone and pushing backfired and they got pushed by Lesh/BM instead. But if you actually watched the game you'd know that Weaver was pretty much their saving grace that game. Altering the draft slightly and picking Akke's hero 4th and saving the Weaver pick for last could have made a world of difference, rather than picking Weaver 4th and letting Malaysia counterpick with a Beastmaster.

And your note about Pajkatt losing mid as QoP vs Leshrac: Yes, that did happen, but largely due to an unfavorable lvl 1 clash where Malaysia got both bounty runes and forced Pajkatt to spend a lot of regen before the creeps even spawned.

It's so fu**ing easy to say "pff, Team X picked that hero and lost and because they lost that player sucks" etc.

[A] are obviously still struggling to find their style and coordination, but I have faith in that they know what they're doing because when they're on, they're ON. Just needs a bit (or a lot) of refinement. See game 2 vs Malaysia for example.


You pick heroes that suit you to win, if you don't win those heroes they don't suit you. There is a reason why certain heroes are picked more than other, its because they are better.

Duck- said pretty much everything I wanted to say on the topic. If you follow the trend/meta like a slave you're a tool. If you don't understand what I/we mean then we really have nothing more to discuss.
Huge fan of JulyZerg, HonestTea and that guy Kim Taek Yong.
Zea!
Profile Joined November 2006
9589 Posts
May 22 2015 18:51 GMT
#982
I just think Loda needs to train more, he's so underwhelming lately, he doesn't play the game enough to improve.
The Real Power~
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
May 23 2015 07:24 GMT
#983
According to Akke, the team thought that they had an ok draft in game 3 lol. And as envy has pointed out, it was such an outdraft.
GinNtoniC
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Sweden2945 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-23 08:03:14
May 23 2015 08:02 GMT
#984
On May 23 2015 16:24 DucK- wrote:
According to Akke, the team thought that they had an ok draft in game 3 lol. And as envy has pointed out, it was such an outdraft.

Wow, he said that? I normally think highly of Akke, but there's a reason he's the only guy who's never drafted for [A] - remembering the period when EGM, S4, Loda and even Bulldog took turns drafting last year.
Huge fan of JulyZerg, HonestTea and that guy Kim Taek Yong.
Zea!
Profile Joined November 2006
9589 Posts
May 26 2015 20:49 GMT
#985
Happy birthday Akke, love you <3 my all-time favourite support :D
The Real Power~
GinNtoniC
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Sweden2945 Posts
May 27 2015 20:16 GMT
#986
On May 27 2015 05:49 Zea! wrote:
Happy birthday Akke, love you <3 my all-time favourite support :D

Quoted for truth and love!
Huge fan of JulyZerg, HonestTea and that guy Kim Taek Yong.
GiveMeYourtTots
Profile Joined May 2014
990 Posts
May 30 2015 19:37 GMT
#987
:'(
WakaDoDo
Profile Joined July 2009
Sweden1183 Posts
May 30 2015 19:52 GMT
#988
cuckoo
Profile Joined October 2014
595 Posts
May 30 2015 19:53 GMT
#989
kicking niqua was such a bad decision

they were quite good at slarladder
Laserist
Profile Joined September 2011
Turkey4269 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-30 19:56:24
May 30 2015 19:56 GMT
#990
Well deserved. Expectations:
-bulldog out
-team going slump
-tried all Scandinavian players in specific order
-failed hard and call bulldog
-lose again
“Are you with the Cartel? Because you’re definitely an Angel.”
blobrus
Profile Joined August 2011
4297 Posts
May 30 2015 19:57 GMT
#991
Kick Niqua for Bulldog, lose qualifiers. Deserved.
Klowney
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden277 Posts
May 30 2015 20:00 GMT
#992
I think it's time for loda and akke to leave alliance and let bulldog build a new team.
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
May 30 2015 20:01 GMT
#993
Heh. Always said Alliance has not improved much fundamentally despite several good results. But so many foolishly believed they were back lol.
sunrazgriz
Profile Joined April 2015
Vatican City State1573 Posts
May 30 2015 20:01 GMT
#994
sad sad sad

i miss niqua
6nnn
ampson
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2355 Posts
May 30 2015 20:03 GMT
#995
Niqua was the worst player on Alliance by far and bulldog was a huge improvement. Still not quite good enough, I suppose, but saying Niqua would have improved their results is delusional thinking.
blobrus
Profile Joined August 2011
4297 Posts
May 30 2015 20:07 GMT
#996
On May 31 2015 05:03 ampson wrote:
Niqua was the worst player on Alliance by far and bulldog was a huge improvement. Still not quite good enough, I suppose, but saying Niqua would have improved their results is delusional thinking.

I don't think anyone thinks Niqua was the better player but the way A just casually kicked him right before TI to bring back Bulldog, the player who quit on them when they were down, rubbed a lot of people the wrong way.
Snakesneaks
Profile Joined February 2013
Italy2652 Posts
May 30 2015 20:56 GMT
#997
Bulldog is better player than Niqua, but with the latter, [A] managed to get better result.

It can be the luck factor, but if I have to make logical explanation, it might be because Bulldog disrupts the farm distribution among the cores. Both Pajkatt and Bulldog are farm-oriented core, leaving Loda less resources to farm. It also might explain why Loda performed uncharacteristicly bad during qualifier.
Otacon : Snake, Snake, Snaaaaakkkkeeeeeeeeeee..............
Zea!
Profile Joined November 2006
9589 Posts
May 30 2015 21:02 GMT
#998
I think that with a player like Chessie instead of Pajkatt, we'd see a nice improvement both in drafting and in play. That said, i hope they won't give up.
The Real Power~
TRAP[yoo]
Profile Joined December 2009
Hungary6026 Posts
May 30 2015 21:09 GMT
#999
On May 31 2015 05:56 Snakesneaks wrote:
Bulldog is better player than Niqua, but with the latter, [A] managed to get better result.

It can be the luck factor, but if I have to make logical explanation, it might be because Bulldog disrupts the farm distribution among the cores. Both Pajkatt and Bulldog are farm-oriented core, leaving Loda less resources to farm. It also might explain why Loda performed uncharacteristicly bad during qualifier.

exactly. i thought they would make top4 but i did not think they wouldm ake it to ti...their team just does not work out
FTD
ItsMeDomLee
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada2732 Posts
May 30 2015 21:11 GMT
#1000
I feel like every single player had a bad tournament here.
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